Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? - Club CDFreaks

shaolin · 25-03-2007

Hi!
I dont want to wait for the usual verbatim from Newegg since my day off is Sunday so its the best day to sit down and burn my backups.
Are the TDKs any decent?

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...771&pfp=BROWSE
That and the often criticized Memorex are the only think I can find locally.

Regards

PhotoJim · 25-03-2007

The only good dual-layer discs are Verbatim.

If the TDK discs are made in Japan, they are the same media as Verbatim. If they aren't, they're not.

My instinct is that they are not the same.

shaolin · 25-03-2007

Can I tell by looking at the package?

PhotoJim · 25-03-2007

Yep. The package should say in which country the media was made.

shaolin · 25-03-2007

Will check tomorrow. I hope they are from Japan...the price is not bad.

*CDan* · 25-03-2007

Verbatim (MKM) dual layer media is made in Singapore, not Japan.

shaolin · 25-03-2007

Ok, so I should look for Singapore instead?

simple · 25-03-2007

dont get caught up in this nonsense .... no doubt verbatim media is good if you can afford it then thats ok you wont go far wrong.

but you have to find out which is best for you and your system. i cannot afford 45 quid for 25 dual layer discs so i opt for much cheaper media at around 20 pound for 25 i have burned well over 25 games and had one coaster due to booktyping .

PhotoJim · 26-03-2007

I don't think it's nonsense when it comes to dual layer media. Few makers manufacture it. Those that do make it do a terrible job of it in general. The only company that makes it consistently well is Mitsubishi Chemical Company, which is primarily sold as Verbatim media.

I've burned lots of Ritek dual layer media (the other alternative) and it's been universally awful.

With single layer media, there are a lot more choices. Lots of companies make good single layer media. Quite a few make bad single layer media, too... but there are a lot of other choices.

I have a burner that does quality scans, so I know how bad some dual layer media is. If I can't burn it without PO failures on any burner I have (and I have several), then it's bad media.

shaolin · 27-03-2007

Just as an update, I ended up buying Sonys since they went on sale at BB and I am very happy with them. No costers and actually working better (no need to try a few times to boot) than the verbatims. Then again I made the mistake of burning the verbas at 1x :-)

25-03-2007	#1 (permalink)
shaolin CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 44	Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Hi! I dont want to wait for the usual verbatim from Newegg since my day off is Sunday so its the best day to sit down and burn my backups. Are the TDKs any decent? http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...771&pfp=BROWSE That and the often criticized Memorex are the only think I can find locally. Regards

25-03-2007	#2 (permalink)
PhotoJim CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 259	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? The only good dual-layer discs are Verbatim. If the TDK discs are made in Japan, they are the same media as Verbatim. If they aren't, they're not. My instinct is that they are not the same. __________________ Verbatim Producer 44 (NEC ND-1300A external) 4-2.4-12 + 4-2-12 - 16-10-40 CD (1.0C) Samsung SH-S162L 16-8-12 + 16-6-12 - 8x +R-DL 6x -R-DL, 48-32-48 CD (TS06) LG GSA-H10N 16-8-16 + 16-6-16 - 10x +R-DL 6x -R-DL, 48-32-48 CD (JL11) BenQ DW1620a 16-4-16 +/- 4x +R-DL, 40-24-40 CD (B7W9) LG GSA-4163B 16-8-16 +, 16-6-16 -, 4x +R-DL, 5x -RAM, 40-24-40 CD (A106) NEC ND-6500A 8-4-8 +/- 2.4x +R-DL, 24-16-24 CD (in my notebook PC) (2.24) CyberDrive DX082d 8-4-8 +, 4-2-8 -, 32-16-32 CD (150B) BenQ CRW5232 52-32-52 TDK VeloCD USB 2.0 external 52-24-50 Yamaha CRW-8824E 8-8-24 (1.0a) Ricoh 6201S 2-2-6 SCSI Retired: BenQ DW800a (sold... good burner!); BenQ DW1620a (died, sniff, but I still have another)

25-03-2007	#3 (permalink)
shaolin CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 44	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Can I tell by looking at the package?

25-03-2007	#4 (permalink)
PhotoJim CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 259	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Yep. The package should say in which country the media was made. __________________ Verbatim Producer 44 (NEC ND-1300A external) 4-2.4-12 + 4-2-12 - 16-10-40 CD (1.0C) Samsung SH-S162L 16-8-12 + 16-6-12 - 8x +R-DL 6x -R-DL, 48-32-48 CD (TS06) LG GSA-H10N 16-8-16 + 16-6-16 - 10x +R-DL 6x -R-DL, 48-32-48 CD (JL11) BenQ DW1620a 16-4-16 +/- 4x +R-DL, 40-24-40 CD (B7W9) LG GSA-4163B 16-8-16 +, 16-6-16 -, 4x +R-DL, 5x -RAM, 40-24-40 CD (A106) NEC ND-6500A 8-4-8 +/- 2.4x +R-DL, 24-16-24 CD (in my notebook PC) (2.24) CyberDrive DX082d 8-4-8 +, 4-2-8 -, 32-16-32 CD (150B) BenQ CRW5232 52-32-52 TDK VeloCD USB 2.0 external 52-24-50 Yamaha CRW-8824E 8-8-24 (1.0a) Ricoh 6201S 2-2-6 SCSI Retired: BenQ DW800a (sold... good burner!); BenQ DW1620a (died, sniff, but I still have another)

25-03-2007	#5 (permalink)
shaolin CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 44	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Will check tomorrow. I hope they are from Japan...the price is not bad.

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25-03-2007	#6 (permalink)
CDan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,778	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Verbatim (MKM) dual layer media is made in Singapore, not Japan.

25-03-2007	#7 (permalink)
shaolin CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 44	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Ok, so I should look for Singapore instead?

25-03-2007	#8 (permalink)
simple CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 271	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? dont get caught up in this nonsense .... no doubt verbatim media is good if you can afford it then thats ok you wont go far wrong. but you have to find out which is best for you and your system. i cannot afford 45 quid for 25 dual layer discs so i opt for much cheaper media at around 20 pound for 25 i have burned well over 25 games and had one coaster due to booktyping . __________________ INTEL Q6600 GO STEPPING ,, CORSAIR XMS 2 GIG ,, COOLERMASTER COSMOS CASE,, INTEL EXTREME MOBO ,, 500 GIG SATA ,, 200 GIG IDE MAC DRIVE 7...ALWAYS READY TO UPGRADE

26-03-2007	#9 (permalink)
PhotoJim CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 259	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? I don't think it's nonsense when it comes to dual layer media. Few makers manufacture it. Those that do make it do a terrible job of it in general. The only company that makes it consistently well is Mitsubishi Chemical Company, which is primarily sold as Verbatim media. I've burned lots of Ritek dual layer media (the other alternative) and it's been universally awful. With single layer media, there are a lot more choices. Lots of companies make good single layer media. Quite a few make bad single layer media, too... but there are a lot of other choices. I have a burner that does quality scans, so I know how bad some dual layer media is. If I can't burn it without PO failures on any burner I have (and I have several), then it's bad media. __________________ Verbatim Producer 44 (NEC ND-1300A external) 4-2.4-12 + 4-2-12 - 16-10-40 CD (1.0C) Samsung SH-S162L 16-8-12 + 16-6-12 - 8x +R-DL 6x -R-DL, 48-32-48 CD (TS06) LG GSA-H10N 16-8-16 + 16-6-16 - 10x +R-DL 6x -R-DL, 48-32-48 CD (JL11) BenQ DW1620a 16-4-16 +/- 4x +R-DL, 40-24-40 CD (B7W9) LG GSA-4163B 16-8-16 +, 16-6-16 -, 4x +R-DL, 5x -RAM, 40-24-40 CD (A106) NEC ND-6500A 8-4-8 +/- 2.4x +R-DL, 24-16-24 CD (in my notebook PC) (2.24) CyberDrive DX082d 8-4-8 +, 4-2-8 -, 32-16-32 CD (150B) BenQ CRW5232 52-32-52 TDK VeloCD USB 2.0 external 52-24-50 Yamaha CRW-8824E 8-8-24 (1.0a) Ricoh 6201S 2-2-6 SCSI Retired: BenQ DW800a (sold... good burner!); BenQ DW1620a (died, sniff, but I still have another)

27-03-2007	#10 (permalink)
shaolin CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 44	Re: Are these TDKs dual layer good for XBOX 360 backups? Just as an update, I ended up buying Sonys since they went on sale at BB and I am very happy with them. No costers and actually working better (no need to try a few times to boot) than the verbatims. Then again I made the mistake of burning the verbas at 1x :-)

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