CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test - Page 79 - Club CDFreaks

pepst · 29-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Ibex

Very bad idea. I now have no way of saving the disc quality summary box.

You can still use Print Screen or ALT+Print Screen keys for saving the screen or program window to the clipboard and then save the picture in any photo editor or viewer

jcusimano2 · 04-05-2008

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Originally Posted by C0deKing

Hi Erik. Any idea when we will see the fix for this TRT issue. Thanks.

@ Erik have you found the cause and repair to the trt issue??
It doesn't happen with my liyeon drives but does w/pioneer & nec/optiarc..

**C0deKing** · 09-05-2008

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Originally Posted by ErikDeppe

It's performing seek operations during the test which it obviously shouldn't do

Things are back to normal with 4.7.7.16 which will be out soon (hopefully this week).

Hi Erik. Finally got a chance to use Nero DiscSpeed v4.11.2.0 and I'm amazed to see the TRT problem is still there and also jitter testing for the LiteOn 20A3x doesn't work.

I can't use your program with these problems, which is a pity and I'm noticing a lot more people starting to use DVDInfoPro because it handles both TRT testing and jitter for all LiteOn models, without any issues.

Is there any chance we can get an urgent fix for these problems. Thanks.

*ErikDeppe* · 09-05-2008

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Originally Posted by C0deKing

Hi Erik. Finally got a chance to use Nero DiscSpeed v4.11.2.0 and I'm amazed to see the TRT problem is still there and also jitter testing for the LiteOn 20A3x doesn't work.

I can't use your program with these problems, which is a pity and I'm noticing a lot more people starting to use DVDInfoPro because it handles both TRT testing and jitter for all LiteOn models, without any issues.

Is there any chance we can get an urgent fix for these problems. Thanks.

Sorry about that. I've put Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.7.16 online which doesn't have this problem.
http://cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroCDSpeed_47716.zip

The TRT issue has also been fixed in DiscSpeed but that version is not ready yet.

*Pulsee* · 09-05-2008

Many Thanks ErikDeppe

**DrageMester** · 09-05-2008

Thanks, Erik.

Greensman_2 · 09-05-2008

yes sir!! Thanks....

....gm

MediumRare · 09-05-2008

Thanks for releasing this "old" update, Erik!

One of the things that DiscSpeed 4.11.2.0 did fix is the QuickScan average- at least for PIE. Here is a scan with 50 samples of the same (pressed) DVD that I used in my previous test. You can directly compare the QuickScan images.

This time the PIE average is ca. 6 instead of 296, which agrees well with the full scan value 5.6 (not repeated). The PIF value seems a bit high- I'd expect something like 0.1 (or less), but that may result from the low totals.

G

**C0deKing** · 10-05-2008

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Originally Posted by ErikDeppe

Sorry about that. I've put Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.7.16 online which doesn't have this problem.
http://cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroCDSpeed_47716.zip

The TRT issue has also been fixed in DiscSpeed but that version is not ready yet.

Excellent! Thanks Erik.

XuMEPA · 10-05-2008

2 ErikDeppe
(sorry for my bad english)

I have some strange problems with ScanDisc option during C1/C2 - PI/PO Test.
So,
PIONEER DVR-115D, firmware 1.18....
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I find you post on page 77...

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Pioneer asked to remove support for the Disc Quality Test with their drives a few months ago.

Can you to refer me to any list of new models of DVD-Multi-Recorders that have full support by Nero CD-DVD Speed or DiscSpeed.

*zebadee* · 10-05-2008

Hi

Welcome onboard XuMEPA.

My understanding is that Pioneer asked for their drives to be withdrawn from the list of CD/DVDSpeed supported drives.
Hence the early version has support.
Latter versions don't.

XuMEPA · 10-05-2008

Thank you, Zebadee!

I already find info by Erik... It is very bad.
Why I was changed my BENQ DW1640 to PIONEER?!?

Can you advise any internal IDE DVD+/-RW NEC(Optiarc) / Lite-On / Sony that have full support of CD-DVD Speed (DiscSpeed) ?

timstr7 · 03-08-2008

Are there any slim internal notebook DVD+/-RW drives which are fully supported by Nero Disk Speed?

LiteOn DVD±RW LiteON DS-8A1P-021C, slim 12.7mm - ?
NEC Optiarc AD-7593A slim 12.7mm - ?
NEC Optiarc AD-7910A, ultraslim 9.5mm - ?

Lenny_Nero · 04-08-2008

Welcome to CDF timstr7 - I will say to you now that this DVD/CD quality testing can become a bit habit forming

I cant offer any real world slimline drive support as I am not a laptop/notebook user (I like to be able to get away from computers every now and then).

But, of the drives you have named below Lite0n drives always seem to be very good in the quality testing areas, and IMO there are more tools that can easily be used to do so.

Where as NEC/Optiarc drives are not so honest in the quality scanning area, but can often be what we call a 'picky' reader which are very good in the TRT testing area.

As said I cant help you with the drives named so they could be the exception to the rule.

Have you used the forum search to check out each drive ?

timstr7 · 4 Weeks Ago

Lenny_Nero,

Thank you for your answer and advice.

Today I bought LiteOn LiteON DS-8A1P-021C - and yes, CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality Test works fine

I decided not to go with NEC/Optiarc drives - because as far as I understand - even if these drives support Disc Quality Test - well, what results they will give you - is another story...

I tried to get as much info as possible (on the forum and on the internet as well) - the only thing I can tell you - there is hardly any information on slim dvd-writers drives - no reviews at all!

I got only the following results on slim drives:
Samsung SN S082H does not support quality tests;
Plextor AL 608 (which is actually made by Pioneer) does not support quality tests;
NEC AD7543 support quality tests.

*Bob* · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by timstr7

Lenny_Nero,

Thank you for your answer and advice.

Today I bought LiteOn LiteON DS-8A1P-021C - and yes, CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality Test works fine

I decided not to go with NEC/Optiarc drives - because as far as I understand - even if these drives support Disc Quality Test - well, what results they will give you - is another story...

I tried to get as much info as possible (on the forum and on the internet as well) - the only thing I can tell you - there is hardly any information on slim dvd-writers drives - no reviews at all!

I got only the following results on slim drives:
Samsung SN S082H does not support quality tests;
Plextor AL 608 (which is actually made by Pioneer) does not support quality tests;
NEC AD7543 support quality tests.

I would be interested in seeing some burns from that drive please.

*Albert* · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by timstr7

Samsung SN S082H does not support quality tests;

Yes, it does. http://club.cdfreaks.com/f105/ts-l63...thread-241399/

A registry edit is just required to scan with the Samsung drives that support it... http://club.cdfreaks.com/f105/mini-f...7/#post1803665

timstr7 · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Bob

I would be interested in seeing some burns from that drive please.

Bob,

here is an example (Verbatim DVD-R 16X reorder 43548):

*Bob* · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by timstr7

Bob,

here is an example (Verbatim DVD-R 16X reorder 43548):

Thanks

timstr7 · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Albert

Yes, it does. http://club.cdfreaks.com/f105/ts-l63...thread-241399/

A registry edit is just required to scan with the Samsung drives that support it... http://club.cdfreaks.com/f105/mini-f...7/#post1803665

But does this drive has correct hardware to get reliable results (like LiteON - Mediatek chipset, or Plextor - Sanyo chipset)? Or you get results similar to results from NEC/Optiarc drives?

*Bob* · 4 Weeks Ago

@timstr7

Do you have any 8x blanks to try? If you don't have anything to burn then don't waste one with CDs_Test_B2 files. Just whenever if you burn one or have some.

timstr7 · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Bob

Do you have any 8x blanks to try? If you don't have anything to burn then don't waste one with CDs_Test_B2 files. Just whenever if you burn one or have some.

Bob,

I don't have any 8X media now. If I will get one (I will ask my friends if they have some left - nowadays 8x are hard to find and buy) - I will post results.

genki · 4 Weeks Ago

Hi everybody!

I think this is the right thread for a question about DiscSpeed -tell me if i'am wrong. Does DiscSpeed Support Disc Quality scans of DVD-RAM media? I just tried to do this on an Optiarc 7200S drive (Firmware 1.06, DiscSpeed Version 4.11.2.0). Last message i got is that the drive will spin up, but this never happens. Finally only a hardware reset of the complete system brings windows to life again. I tried this several times -DiscSpeed crashes again and again, even with different discs.
The discs work fine so far, they are identified correctly and can be read without any problems.

Thanks for your help,
GENKI

thecatman · 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by zebadee

Hi

Welcome onboard XuMEPA.

My understanding is that Pioneer asked for their drives to be withdrawn from the list of CD/DVDSpeed supported drives.
Hence the early version has support.
Latter versions don't.

hi all!
so if i have this pioneer i can't check it!
any suggestion? or i must buy another dvd-rw only for test?
thanks!

**vroom** · 4 Weeks Ago

Yes you will have to get another drive for scanning.

09-05-2008	#1955 (permalink)
Pulsee CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,085	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Many Thanks ErikDeppe __________________ (PLEXTOR PX-760A 1.07) (SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04) (BENQ DW1640 BEFB USB2) (BENQ DW1650 BCIC) (PIONEER DVR-A12XLB@DVR-112L 8.25)(PIONEER DVR-115DBK@115L 1.18)(PIONEER DVR-215BK@215L 1.18) (LITE-ON LH-18A1P@LH-20A1P KL0P -FB-EOS-EOHT 6 C0deKing MOD)(LITE-ON LH-20A1P KL0P -FB-EOS-EOHT 6 C0deKing MOD) (LITE-ON DH-20A4P 9PV1 -FBL-EOHT 6 C0deKing MOD)(LITE-ON DH-20A3L EV6D HT735WIN Test FW)(LITE-ON DX-20A3P XV6D HT735WIN Test FW)(LITE-ON iHAS220 8L04) (SONY AW-G170A-B2@OPTIARC AD-7173A 1.M1 RPC1 Liggy & Dee MOD)(SONY DRU-840A SS01 -FB-FR-BS-ROMD C0deKing MOD)(SONY OPTIARC AD7200AOB 1.Z2 RPC1 Liggy & Dee MOD)

09-05-2008	#1956 (permalink)
DrageMester Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,932	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Thanks, Erik. __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

09-05-2008	#1957 (permalink)
Greensman_2 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Texas Posts: 126	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test yes sir!! Thanks.... ....gm __________________ Nevertheless I am continually with You; You have taken hold of my right hand.

10-05-2008	#1961 (permalink)
zebadee CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,057	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Hi Welcome onboard XuMEPA. My understanding is that Pioneer asked for their drives to be withdrawn from the list of CD/DVDSpeed supported drives. Hence the early version has support. Latter versions don't.

10-05-2008	#1962 (permalink)
XuMEPA New on Forum Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Thank you, Zebadee! I already find info by Erik... It is very bad. Why I was changed my BENQ DW1640 to PIONEER?!? Can you advise any internal IDE DVD+/-RW NEC(Optiarc) / Lite-On / Sony that have full support of CD-DVD Speed (DiscSpeed) ?

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03-08-2008	#1963 (permalink)
timstr7 New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Are there any slim internal notebook DVD+/-RW drives which are fully supported by Nero Disk Speed? LiteOn DVD±RW LiteON DS-8A1P-021C, slim 12.7mm - ? NEC Optiarc AD-7593A slim 12.7mm - ? NEC Optiarc AD-7910A, ultraslim 9.5mm - ?

04-08-2008	#1964 (permalink)
Lenny_Nero CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: south of the river Posts: 483	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Welcome to CDF timstr7 - I will say to you now that this DVD/CD quality testing can become a bit habit forming I cant offer any real world slimline drive support as I am not a laptop/notebook user (I like to be able to get away from computers every now and then). But, of the drives you have named below Lite0n drives always seem to be very good in the quality testing areas, and IMO there are more tools that can easily be used to do so. Where as NEC/Optiarc drives are not so honest in the quality scanning area, but can often be what we call a 'picky' reader which are very good in the TRT testing area. As said I cant help you with the drives named so they could be the exception to the rule. Have you used the forum search to check out each drive ? __________________ ASUS A7N8X nForce 2 2GHz AMD Tbred 2GB, Radeon 9550 Seasonic S12 Win2000/slackware LG GSA-4167B - LiteOn SHM-165P6S & Asus CRW-5232A ViewSonic P220F via KVM - - - - - - DFI RDX200 Athlon 4200x2 x1650XT 24Pipe 2 GB G.SKILL 2GB HZ Corsair HX620 LG GSA H42N - Lite0n SOHW-832S - NEC ND-3550A & Optiarc DVDRW AD-5170A

4 Weeks Ago	#1965 (permalink)
timstr7 New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Lenny_Nero, Thank you for your answer and advice. Today I bought LiteOn LiteON DS-8A1P-021C - and yes, CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality Test works fine I decided not to go with NEC/Optiarc drives - because as far as I understand - even if these drives support Disc Quality Test - well, what results they will give you - is another story... I tried to get as much info as possible (on the forum and on the internet as well) - the only thing I can tell you - there is hardly any information on slim dvd-writers drives - no reviews at all! I got only the following results on slim drives: Samsung SN S082H does not support quality tests; Plextor AL 608 (which is actually made by Pioneer) does not support quality tests; NEC AD7543 support quality tests.

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4 Weeks Ago	#1973 (permalink)
genki New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Hi everybody! I think this is the right thread for a question about DiscSpeed -tell me if i'am wrong. Does DiscSpeed Support Disc Quality scans of DVD-RAM media? I just tried to do this on an Optiarc 7200S drive (Firmware 1.06, DiscSpeed Version 4.11.2.0). Last message i got is that the drive will spin up, but this never happens. Finally only a hardware reset of the complete system brings windows to life again. I tried this several times -DiscSpeed crashes again and again, even with different discs. The discs work fine so far, they are identified correctly and can be read without any problems. Thanks for your help, GENKI

4 Weeks Ago	#1975 (permalink)
vroom Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .gr Posts: 1,498	Re: CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test Yes you will have to get another drive for scanning. __________________ The end complete