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Old 03-06-2004   #76 (permalink)
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

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Yes. I tested it on a different system and I saw the same problem. The drive simply locked up as soon as the PI/PO command was sent.
This was under XP. Everything worked fine on the same system under Windows 2000.
The problem did not occur with other drives attached to the firewire interface.
I'm going to try the USB2 interface on that system.
Just wondering, might some of these issues be solved if we have the choice of using ASPI instead of SPTI? We found this to be the case with Kprobe2, the option of switching drivers was a big help.
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

FYI,

I found a small bug in the save process.
When I'm saving a new scan, I normally click on an older .PNG file scan so that my initial filename formatting can be displayed.
I then modify the filename to represent the new scan and click save.
However, this causes the .PNG extension to be displayed in the filename textbox.
This causes the Save feature to pop an error and it does not save the file. (image below)
This only occurs when the .PNG file extension is in uppercase.

I have contacted Erik regarding this and he has already fixed it in the new version to be released soon!
Thanks again Erik!
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The only difference between 3.00 and 3.01 is the error message in the Disc Quallity test but I will run some tests with the BenQ on a USB interface.
Can you tell me what type of disc you used for testing?
Erik,
I am very sorry that I gave you some extra work to do. V3.00 and V3.01 work great. The one DVD+R (cut as DVD-ROM) was the problem. Using other media everything is great.

I have tested both versions with all the BenQ firmware (B3CB, B3EC, and B3HC) in a Combo Case. V3 works in both IEEE1394 and USB 2.0 modes. The ChipSet in the Combo was the latest "Prolific unit".

Once again thanks for such a great product...
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

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According to NEC their drives cannot report PI/PO errors so I assume the NEC chipset doesn't have this feature.
But most likely it can be added by a firmware update. So maybe if PI/PO testing gets more popular they will consider adding this feature
If the chipset doesn't have the capability, no amount of firmware can implement it.
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

anyone here know why, CD-Speed not working for me before reformat

any idea? beside CD-Speed, KProbe any other software?

thank you

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anyone here know why, CD-Speed not working for me before reformat

any idea? beside CD-Speed, KProbe any other software?

thank you

mitodna

Have you tried using the M$ IDE drivers instead of the Nforce SW drivers(or vice-versa)? One of my machines required me to copy the ASPI DLL file into the CD-Speed directory before it behaved properly.
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

how to switch to use M$ IDE?

and where is the ASPI DLL?

thank you

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http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/view...f673f281b46c88

Sorry I dont have a link for a guide on the procedure but read through the forum link above for all the information. I'm using the "WNASPI32.DLL" file that was installed by Nero, located in the "Ahead" directory. Nero's web site also has the DLL available for download. Sorry I cant be more specific...short on time :-\
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http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/view...f673f281b46c88

Sorry I dont have a link for a guide on the procedure but read through the forum link above for all the information. I'm using the "WNASPI32.DLL" file that was installed by Nero, located in the "Ahead" directory. Nero's web site also has the DLL available for download. Sorry I cant be more specific...short on time :-\
hi, how do use Windows IDE instead of nVidia one? i am blur now, spend there for 10 minutes without anything

update: mind to tell me what is the original Windows IDE driver? i rolled back the driver

update: now the driver name is NVIDIA NForce2(tm) SPP/IGP ATA Controller, before that is .... v2.5

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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

another update: did rollback driver, then uninstall it NVIDIA IDE SW from control panel(add and remove programs) (this is the correct way, actually no need to rollback)

and now Jitter scanning is working and still stuck on <1.5x

and why the way how to interpret Jitter %? the more is better or the less?

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Hi,
I'm new to this quality scanning stuff but,

RDGrimes said;
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It's not a question of "accurate" or not accurate. The point of error scanning is not to compare with anyone else, but to find the best combination of media and burn speed for your own setup.
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why post scans here..well mainly i think to show what media burns well with what drives and firmware..not to compare your drive to someone elses.
I read this thread, checked some stuff and I get the 812@832 bug.
I have a friend that I convinced to get an 812, because I'm getting really good quality scans with crap media like Princo! (he got me onto my 106D)
I'm thinking " fantastic "
So I get him to scan a few discs, I made on my LiteOn, on his 812@832 they come as the kind of junk they are frequently reported to be on this forum!
So I scan a Princo disk, he made on his 812@832 . His scan report says its "junk", a scan on my 812@832 says its "pure gold"
I have png's of "His v's Mine".... As an example...
my scans say
Pi errors -av =6.95 max =38 total =71451
and his will be
Pi errors -av =639 max =1151 total =9168924
we scanned at the same speed ie 7X or maximum or whatever.
Why does my scan show such a better result? etc....
ie. is my burner better at reading?... etc

thanks.
ps. I think we'll get similar results in Kprobe too. (He sent me a Kprobe scan)
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

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Just wondering, might some of these issues be solved if we have the choice of using ASPI instead of SPTI? We found this to be the case with Kprobe2, the option of switching drivers was a big help.
ive had absolutly no problems using spti drivers and kprobe2 after its latest version. Remember all if you use spti drivers your relying on either microsoft or motherboard drivers so lets say you have nforce ide driver installed your most likely going to have issues using spti drivers. but a aspi option would be nice (unfortunatly though they only work with internal drives).
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Why does my scan show such a better result? etc....
ie. is my burner better at reading?... etc

thanks.
ps. I think we'll get similar results in Kprobe too. (He sent me a Kprobe scan)
it took me 3 812s before i had a good one (first two had read issues and i rma'ed them). also remember using spti drivers relies alot on your ide drivers so lets say he has some crappy nforce ide drivers while you have good microsoft ones that can also skew read tests. scan at 4x and use the same firmware i use USON (no im not using the hacked 832 firmware).
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

Hi
i have a very simple question
How much is the max number of Pi errors and how much is the max number of Pi failures?
Is Pi failures the same thing with Po errors?
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i have a very simple question
How much is the max number of Pi errors and how much is the max number of Pi failures?
Is Pi failures the same thing with Po errors?
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PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI errors

PO (Parity Outer): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 32 PO (actually PI uncorrectable) errors.
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PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI errors

PO (Parity Outer): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 32 PO (actually PI uncorrectable) errors.
actually at 1ecc 4 pos max (or pifs) I do beleive erik accounts for this. 32 would be at 8ecc scan.
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drivers so lets say he has some crappy nforce ide drivers while you have good microsoft ones that can also skew read tests.
Ok so the crappy Microsoft ide drivers could be playing havoc with my mates scans as opposed to the brilliant Nforce ide drivers I'm using

Yes, we use very similar m/boards I have rev1 he has rev2.
I set up his computer with MS ide driver. I updated my system, later to the latest v4.24 (or so) drivers, etc

I'd say it's a bad (ie. not as good drive), because, my brother just got himself an 812s too, and we did the same firmware mods, etc. He's getting similar results to me. (we have totally different computer systems)

Could you RMA a drive if it's working ok, but getting bad CDSpeed/KProbe scans.
Maybe just trying different firmwares could help?
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Hi Erik Deppe,


is there a bug wth cd-dvd speed v3.00???

i have the following PI/PO scans:

(drive used is MSI MS-8216S)

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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

I have the same problems.The dvd is playable by JVC XV-S302 with no errors
but when i try to scan it with toshiba 1802 i get these results

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Does cd speed supports nec2500 for disc quality test because i get the error initializing test
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Does cd speed supports nec2500 for disc quality test because i get the error initializing test
most properly it is because you are using nForce IDE driver

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IDE drivers have no impact on the error reports, they either work or they don't.

Also, no one has ever claimed that you will get reliable results from a DVD-ROM drive. Please consult the supported drives list and read this thread.
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most properly it is because you are using nForce IDE driver

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But i dont have nforce chipset
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