Newbie 1640 owner questions - Club CDFreaks

*DeadMan* · 22-07-2005

1. Do I *HAVE* to reboot after each flash (I don't hibernate or anything)?
2. Do I *HAVE* to reboot after enabling or disabling WOPC?
3. Does the drive learn as it burns like the Lite-on?
4. How do I overspeed media like TY?
5. Is TY media usually better with WOPC on or off?

Thanks.

**geno888** · 22-07-2005

1. Sorry, I don't know

2. Sorry, I don't know

3. No, 1640 don't learn such as liteon

4. Overspeed depends on firmware, and official firmwares don't allow overspeed (until now)

5. Sorry, I don't know

**zevia** · 22-07-2005

1. It is best to reboot so Windows will detect the "new" drive
2. No you don't have to.
3. Sorry, I don't know yet.
4. With ala's MCSE. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=124905
5. In my opinion, you need to test your TY batch yourself.

*DeadMan* · 22-07-2005

In regards to Windows 'detecting' the 'new drive' surely just removing and redecting the drive in device manager would suffice for that. I've never understood the need to reboot otherwise unless there is some other reason like it must be powered down then back up again for the new firmware to take effect. If anyone knows please do tell. But I have been told that the Lite-on definitely does not need to be rebooted after each flash unless you hibernate your PC.

*crossg* · 22-07-2005

@DeadMan I seem to remember a post from Pinto2 saying that his burst rate stayed at 13mbs until he rebooted after flashing.

Edit: Here is the Post I was refering to C0deKing/Pinto2.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=21

*DeadMan* · 22-07-2005

That could account for a transfer rate problem I had after my first burn. I flashed to BSJB but did not reboot. I may try a flash and then test that theory and if it's true try removing the device in device manager and redetecting to see if it fixes it.

*DeadMan* · 23-07-2005

OK I tried flashing but a reboot is definitely required since I cannot even get into device manager after a flash to try the device removal trick.

**C0deKing** · 23-07-2005

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Originally Posted by DeadMan

OK I tried flashing but a reboot is definitely required since I cannot even get into device manager after a flash to try the device removal trick.

Yeah, my experience with the 1640 is the system will hang if you try to access the drive after a flash, without a reboot. Also Windows hangs on shutdown as well, after the flash, but is fine after the reboot. This applies to CVT or Windows EXE flashing, so it's something to do with a soft reset.

Personally I believe that the 1620 and 1640 learn. I know the drive has EEPROM and I typically experience better burn quality on the second burn of a new media code. Also my 1620 started burning coasters with MCC003 only and flashing back to the "L" firmware fixed this problem, so this indicates to me that individual media codes have data stored in the EEPROM

Eluder · 23-07-2005

Does the flasher not inform you that a reboot is to be performed when it's done? It does for me and I just say ok, I figure it's key for BenQ drives; heck, even though my Pioneer doesn't ask me to reboot after a flash, I still do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadMan

OK I tried flashing but a reboot is definitely required since I cannot even get into device manager after a flash to try the device removal trick.

abalone · 24-07-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0deKing

Yeah, my experience with the 1640 is the system will hang if you try to access the drive after a flash, without a reboot. Also Windows hangs on shutdown as well, after the flash, but is fine after the reboot. This applies to CVT or Windows EXE flashing, so it's something to do with a soft reset.

Yes! My WinXP just hanged when I access my BenQ after flashing. But my Liteon never require reboot.

22-07-2005	#1 (permalink)
DeadMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,204	Newbie 1640 owner questions <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> 1. Do I HAVE to reboot after each flash (I don't hibernate or anything)? 2. Do I HAVE to reboot after enabling or disabling WOPC? 3. Does the drive learn as it burns like the Lite-on? 4. How do I overspeed media like TY? 5. Is TY media usually better with WOPC on or off? Thanks. __________________ My dongle broke! "Without challenging peoples perceptions, how do you expect to achieve the power to affect change?" Quote by me --- Benq 1640 @ BSPB Lite-on 1673S @ Quality Patched 1693S KC4B NEC 3540 1.01 W8 NEC 2500 @ 2510 2F9 (Retired) Lite-on DVD-ROM and 2 CD burners, 24x and 52x (Retired) MB Asus P5N-E SLI using XP Pro SP2 default MS IDE drivers

22-07-2005	#2 (permalink)
geno888 Moderator, Editor & CD Freaks Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 17,477	Re: Newbie 1640 owner questions 1. Sorry, I don't know 2. Sorry, I don't know 3. No, 1640 don't learn such as liteon 4. Overspeed depends on firmware, and official firmwares don't allow overspeed (until now) 5. Sorry, I don't know

22-07-2005	#3 (permalink)
zevia Admin & Review Coordinator N.America Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 9,501	Re: Newbie 1640 owner questions 1. It is best to reboot so Windows will detect the "new" drive 2. No you don't have to. 3. Sorry, I don't know yet. 4. With ala's MCSE. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=124905 5. In my opinion, you need to test your TY batch yourself. __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

22-07-2005	#4 (permalink)
DeadMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,204	Re: Newbie 1640 owner questions In regards to Windows 'detecting' the 'new drive' surely just removing and redecting the drive in device manager would suffice for that. I've never understood the need to reboot otherwise unless there is some other reason like it must be powered down then back up again for the new firmware to take effect. If anyone knows please do tell. But I have been told that the Lite-on definitely does not need to be rebooted after each flash unless you hibernate your PC. __________________ My dongle broke! "Without challenging peoples perceptions, how do you expect to achieve the power to affect change?" Quote by me --- Benq 1640 @ BSPB Lite-on 1673S @ Quality Patched 1693S KC4B NEC 3540 1.01 W8 NEC 2500 @ 2510 2F9 (Retired) Lite-on DVD-ROM and 2 CD burners, 24x and 52x (Retired) MB Asus P5N-E SLI using XP Pro SP2 default MS IDE drivers

22-07-2005	#5 (permalink)
crossg Retired Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta. Canada Posts: 4,650	Re: Newbie 1640 owner questions @DeadMan I seem to remember a post from Pinto2 saying that his burst rate stayed at 13mbs until he rebooted after flashing. Edit: Here is the Post I was refering to C0deKing/Pinto2. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=21 __________________ My PC Specs. Plextor 760A/716A 1.07/1.10, BenQ DW1655, BCIB, BenQ DW1640 x2, BSLB, Nec 4551A, 1.08. Lite On SHM 165P6S/LH-20A1S, MS0R/9L05. LG GSA H22N/H62N, 1.02/CL01. SH-S203B, SB03. The Forum Rules Click here to join CDFreaks.com. Last edited by crossg; 23-07-2005 at 00:15. Reason: Add info

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22-07-2005	#6 (permalink)
DeadMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,204	Re: Newbie 1640 owner questions That could account for a transfer rate problem I had after my first burn. I flashed to BSJB but did not reboot. I may try a flash and then test that theory and if it's true try removing the device in device manager and redetecting to see if it fixes it. __________________ My dongle broke! "Without challenging peoples perceptions, how do you expect to achieve the power to affect change?" Quote by me --- Benq 1640 @ BSPB Lite-on 1673S @ Quality Patched 1693S KC4B NEC 3540 1.01 W8 NEC 2500 @ 2510 2F9 (Retired) Lite-on DVD-ROM and 2 CD burners, 24x and 52x (Retired) MB Asus P5N-E SLI using XP Pro SP2 default MS IDE drivers

23-07-2005	#7 (permalink)
DeadMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,204	Re: Newbie 1640 owner questions OK I tried flashing but a reboot is definitely required since I cannot even get into device manager after a flash to try the device removal trick. __________________ My dongle broke! "Without challenging peoples perceptions, how do you expect to achieve the power to affect change?" Quote by me --- Benq 1640 @ BSPB Lite-on 1673S @ Quality Patched 1693S KC4B NEC 3540 1.01 W8 NEC 2500 @ 2510 2F9 (Retired) Lite-on DVD-ROM and 2 CD burners, 24x and 52x (Retired) MB Asus P5N-E SLI using XP Pro SP2 default MS IDE drivers

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