My new BenQ sucks? - Club CDFreaks

fr33th34rt · 20-11-2005

Okay, got a BenQ 1640 today, and after a bunch of stress (bad cables came with it, tricky tower enclosure made installing it hard) I finally burned some media. Here's what happened:

General Information
Drive: BENQ DVD DD DW1640
Firmware: BSHB
Disc: DVD+RW (PHILIPS 041)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 16
Average: 5.60
Total: 63473
PI failures
Maximum: 13
Average: 0.19
Total: 2012
PO failures: 0
Jitter
Maximum: 8.5 %
Average: 6.76 %
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 9:39
Number of samples: 17444
Average scanning interval: 8.08 ECC
Glitches removed: 0

Several things concern me at this point:

1) I think the PI/F are kinda high. Should I get better media? My box (and every where I look on the web) says that this media should be fine. Have I been lied to?

2) The disc is 4.7GB, but Nero says it's 4.3GB. Muh?

I also got an error when I started burning saying that the DVD would be burned in UDF format because a file was too big. I then got a tone of errors in burning. Here's the log:

*edit*

Code:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 22/07/2004 4:33:44 PM 
Nero version: 6.3.1.26 (Nero Express)
Recorder:                   Version: BSHB - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.26
 Adapter driver:                         HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI 
 Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
 Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM:               Version: BSHB - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.26
 Adapter driver:                         HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : ST380011A                        atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : BENQ DVD DD DW1640               atapi Port 1 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8525B         atapi Port 1 ID 1  DMA: On 

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
BENQ DVD DD DW1640         D:   CDRom0
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8525B   E:   CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 70254592 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 479MB (490992kB)
Free physical memory: 66MB (67988kB)
Memory in use       : 86 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

19.11.2005
UDF compilation
7:17:33 PM	#1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6083
	Iso document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  : TRUE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
7:17:33 PM	#2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 126
	Reader running
	
7:17:33 PM	#3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
	Writer BENQ     DVD DD DW1640    running
	
7:17:33 PM	#4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3152
	Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
	
7:17:33 PM	#5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
	Last possible write address on media:  2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
	Last address to be written:            2255904 (501:18.54, 4406MB)
	
7:17:33 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
7:17:33 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
	Recorder: BENQ DVD DD DW1640, Media type: DVD+RW
	
7:17:33 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
7:17:33 PM	#9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 2255904 (2255904) = #2255904/501:18.54
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2255904 blocks [BENQ     DVD DD DW1640   ]
	 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
	    2 indices, index0 (0) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 1 (1) = #1/0:0.1
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1 blocks [BENQ     DVD DD DW1640   ]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
7:17:33 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
	Prepare recorder [BENQ     DVD DD DW1640   ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 2:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4620091392, ISRC ""
	   2: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos    4620091392    4620091392    4620093440, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
	       0 |  lead-in |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	       0 |        1 |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	       0 |        1 |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	 2255904 |        2 |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	 2255904 |        2 |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	 2255905 | lead-out |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	
7:17:33 PM	#11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
	Caching of files started
	
7:17:33 PM	#12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4163
	Cache writing successful.
	
7:17:33 PM	#13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
	Caching of files completed
	
7:17:33 PM	#14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
	Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
	
7:17:33 PM	#15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
7:17:33 PM	#16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
	Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
7:17:33 PM	#17 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1191
	SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03486000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
	Sense Code: 0x24
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00 
	
7:17:33 PM	#18 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
	Set remaining time: 14:09,262 (849262ms) -> OK
	
7:17:33 PM	#19 Phase 98 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
	Start formatting disc before burning
	
7:17:47 PM	#20 Phase 100 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
	Formatting disc was successful
	
7:17:47 PM	#21 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 628
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
7:32:02 PM	#22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
7:32:12 PM	#23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
	 start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1 (1h), lenght 0 blocks
	
7:32:12 PM	#24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
7:32:14 PM	#25 SCSI -1114 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1191
	SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
	Sense Code: 0x29
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x29 0x00 
	
7:32:14 PM	#26 SCSI -1080 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1191
	SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
	Sense Code: 0x3A
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x35 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3A 0x00 
	
7:32:14 PM	#27 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
7:32:14 PM	#28 CDR -1080 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1708
	Disc not present
	
7:32:14 PM	#29 TRANSFER -24 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1708
	Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
	
7:32:14 PM	#30 SCSI -1080 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1191
	SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
	Sense Code: 0x3A
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x35 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3A 0x00 
	
7:32:14 PM	#31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
7:32:14 PM	#32 CDR -1080 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 164
	Disc not present
	
7:32:14 PM	#33 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 164
	Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
	
7:32:14 PM	#34 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
7:32:14 PM	#35 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
	Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
	

Existing drivers:
File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.18, size=57344 bytes, created 02/11/2002 8:53:04 AM 
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 5:00:00 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

Oh, and here's the benchmark Nero gave me:

Does anyone have any suggestions/advice/words of comfort? (or links to an easy to follow guide to flashing this drive to RPC-1?)

*eric93se* · 20-11-2005

I hope thats not your nero serial number at the top of the log file

Thats actually a pretty good burn. You may want to try updating the firmware to the latest BSMB! duh!

You shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon, thats the lowest jitter score I've seen in a while. You can also get Qsuite which will allow you to play with the setting in the drive, like wopc and solid burn.

**zevia** · 20-11-2005

Welcome to the forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr33th34rt

Drive: BENQ DVD DD DW1640
Firmware: BSHB
Disc: DVD+RW (PHILIPS 041)
Selected speed: 8 X

1) I think the PI/F are kinda high. Should I get better media? My box (and every where I look on the web) says that this media should be fine. Have I been lied to?

You are using DVD+RW media which is known to have higher error rates compared to write once media (DVD+R/DVD-R) especially after few burns. As eric93se said, your scan is actually not that bad and the thin PIF spike around 2.6GB is still within limit. I would suggest to run "Transfer Rate" test and if the graph is smooth then you need not to worry at all. Btw, Benq drives scans with 8ECC interval so PIF max of 16 is still good (compare to 1ECC such as LiteOn, PIF max = 4).

Quote:

2) The disc is 4.7GB, but Nero says it's 4.3GB. Muh?

Yap, 4.38Gb = 4,482Mb = 4,589,850Kb = 4,700,000,000 bytes. (Note: 1 Kb = 1,024 b)

Try other media you own, if they are as good as that one, then I wouldn't flash the firmware!

fr33th34rt · 20-11-2005

Eck! That is my serial I think. Why would Nero put that in a burnlog?! Could a mod please remove it?

Thanks for the input eric93se and zevia. Jut two questions though. Can I flash to a older firmware if a new one doesn't work and are there any known problems with TDB firmware for the Benq1640 BSHB? (Its the same as mine except RPC-1)

**zevia** · 20-11-2005

Yes and No.

Well, I was suggesting not to flash the firmware, but if you decided to flash the firmware I would suggest to flash with BSLB or BSMB (RPC1).

fr33th34rt · 20-11-2005

Thanks for the help evryone!

jake8131 · 20-11-2005

Turn on DMA

**zevia** · 20-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by jake8131

Turn on DMA

Sharp eye!

@fr33th34rt, your burst rate shows 13MB/s which is very low. If you place your drive internally, you should be able to get 23-24MB/s for a smooth 16x burning. To check and set your DMA, read this. Also, I believe the last scan is transfer rate and it shows only 10x speed (9.82x to be exact). However, the graph doesn't look like you're having DMA problem because it's smooth. Did you intentionally set the read speed to 10x in Nero CD-DVD Speed Option - Standard Test?

20-11-2005	#2 (permalink)
eric93se CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,722	Re: My new BenQ sucks? I hope thats not your nero serial number at the top of the log file Thats actually a pretty good burn. You may want to try updating the firmware to the latest BSMB! duh! You shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon, thats the lowest jitter score I've seen in a while. You can also get Qsuite which will allow you to play with the setting in the drive, like wopc and solid burn.

20-11-2005	#4 (permalink)
fr33th34rt New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Re: My new BenQ sucks? Eck! That is my serial I think. Why would Nero put that in a burnlog?! Could a mod please remove it? Thanks for the input eric93se and zevia. Jut two questions though. Can I flash to a older firmware if a new one doesn't work and are there any known problems with TDB firmware for the Benq1640 BSHB? (Its the same as mine except RPC-1)

20-11-2005	#5 (permalink)
zevia Admin & Review Coordinator N.America Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 9,521	Re: My new BenQ sucks? Yes and No. Well, I was suggesting not to flash the firmware, but if you decided to flash the firmware I would suggest to flash with BSLB or BSMB (RPC1). __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

20-11-2005	#6 (permalink)
fr33th34rt New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Re: My new BenQ sucks? Thanks for the help evryone!

20-11-2005	#7 (permalink)
jake8131 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Harvel, Il Posts: 695	Re: My new BenQ sucks? Turn on DMA

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