Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? - Club CDFreaks

Mr.Fixit · 09-03-2005

Heres my problem.

To improve Hard Disk performance i was told to leave it alone on my IDE 1 conector, because a CD-Rom device would slow it down by runing it at ATA 33.?.?

At first i connected my Benq Drive as master on my IDE 2 , but it doesn't seem to suport ultra dma 2. Now i want to remove my older Cd-Writer from my IDE 1 channel but would also like to use my Benq in ultra dma 2, so im not sure what to do.

So as of now heres my setup.

IDE1- Hard disk Master (must be alone on cable to run at ata/133
CD-Burner SLave

IDE2- DVD-Burner Master (Benq) but no ultra dma 2.

WHat should i do?

ccbadd · 09-03-2005

Be sure to check the bios and insure they are being seen there and you have UDMA enable for both deveices on both channels. What type of CD-Burner do you have, model#? I have never had a problem putting a CD-Writer (usually combo DVD-Rom/CD-RW) as Master on the sencond ide channel and a burner as the Slave. Both run in DMA mode as long as they are set up properly in the bios.

Legs2sag · 09-03-2005

Personally, I have two HDDs on the primary channel (master contains the OS and applications on different partitions, slave contains data). The secondary channel holds my two DVd burners - BenQ as Master and NEC as Slave.

Never have any problems.

Legs2Sag

*pinto2* · 10-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fixit

...To improve Hard Disk performance i was told to leave it alone on my IDE 1 conector, because a CD-Rom device would slow it down by runing it at ATA 33.?.?

Who ever told you this was wrong.
This law, "the slowest rules" only applies for optical drives, (even) when using a 80 conductor IDE cable.
For long time I've had my "C" as slave to a Lite-On DVDRW and still got 90MB/s burst rate and 45+MB/s average read on a very fragmented WD 80GB HDD on Primary IDE channel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fixit

At first i connected my Benq Drive as master on my IDE 2 , but it doesn't seem to suport ultra dma 2. Now i want to remove my older Cd-Writer from my IDE 1 channel but would also like to use my Benq in ultra dma 2, so im not sure what to do.

Mr.Fixit, what's the make of your mobo (and chipset)?
What IDE controller drivers are you on?

Download CPU-Z to get all necessary information about your hardware as; mobo, shipset, memory, cpu aso.
Use Nero Info Tool to get information about your IDE controller drivers.

Mr.Fixit · 10-03-2005

Mainboard: ECS NU400-A
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Product...nuID=0&LanID=0

The info came from Sandra 2004, said that the speed of all drives on one IDE channel was limited by the slowest device.My cd writer is a LITE-ON LTR-52246s

There is only one blue connector on my mobo, sugesting that only my IDE1 is Ultra DMA...boohooo!!!!

dreamliner77 · 11-03-2005

XP allows mixed speed devices to coexist on an IDE channel. However, chipset drivers *may* interfere with this. So... YMMV

*KenW* · 11-03-2005

I have seem xp and ide do some odd stuff an example is my promise ultra 133 card you would think putting C: on ide 1 no slave and my second HDD on ide2 no slave and the ODD drives on motherboard ata-100 ide would be fine well hell if know why but it runs faster with both HDD on promise ide 1 nothing on ide 2 and ODD on motherboard ata-100 ide. I dont know why some kind weird timing with both HDD on masters of promise that goes away with HDD as master slave on ide1

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Mr.Fixit New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20	Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Heres my problem. To improve Hard Disk performance i was told to leave it alone on my IDE 1 conector, because a CD-Rom device would slow it down by runing it at ATA 33.?.? At first i connected my Benq Drive as master on my IDE 2 , but it doesn't seem to suport ultra dma 2. Now i want to remove my older Cd-Writer from my IDE 1 channel but would also like to use my Benq in ultra dma 2, so im not sure what to do. So as of now heres my setup. IDE1- Hard disk Master (must be alone on cable to run at ata/133 CD-Burner SLave IDE2- DVD-Burner Master (Benq) but no ultra dma 2. WHat should i do?

09-03-2005	#2 (permalink)
ccbadd CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 303	Re: Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? Be sure to check the bios and insure they are being seen there and you have UDMA enable for both deveices on both channels. What type of CD-Burner do you have, model#? I have never had a problem putting a CD-Writer (usually combo DVD-Rom/CD-RW) as Master on the sencond ide channel and a burner as the Slave. Both run in DMA mode as long as they are set up properly in the bios. __________________ Pioneer 111D @ Maddog 111L, Benq 1655, Benq 1640, Lite-On DH-20A3S

09-03-2005	#3 (permalink)
Legs2sag CD Freaks Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London Posts: 163	Re: Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? Personally, I have two HDDs on the primary channel (master contains the OS and applications on different partitions, slave contains data). The secondary channel holds my two DVd burners - BenQ as Master and NEC as Slave. Never have any problems. Legs2Sag __________________ Legs2Sag AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (939 pin Venice) with Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939 1GB RAM (2 x 512Mb PC3200 matched pair) Connect 3d Radeon 9550@9600 (256Mb) 1 x Maxtor 250GB SATA HDD 1 x Maxtor 250Gb SATA II@SATA I HDD (spare) 1 x Maxtor 120GB SATA HDD 2 x Philips 1628@BenQ1640 (TDB BSLB) (1 spare) 1 x LG H10A@H10L (TDB JL11) 1 x Pioneer DVR111D@111L (TDB Buffalo 8.19) 1 x LiteOn 165P6S (MSON)

10-03-2005	#5 (permalink)
Mr.Fixit New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20	Re: Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? Mainboard: ECS NU400-A http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Product...nuID=0&LanID=0 The info came from Sandra 2004, said that the speed of all drives on one IDE channel was limited by the slowest device.My cd writer is a LITE-ON LTR-52246s There is only one blue connector on my mobo, sugesting that only my IDE1 is Ultra DMA...boohooo!!!!

11-03-2005	#6 (permalink)
dreamliner77 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 394	Re: Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? XP allows mixed speed devices to coexist on an IDE channel. However, chipset drivers may interfere with this. So... YMMV

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KenW CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA Los Angeles area Posts: 1,467	Re: Instalation question, IDE 1 or 2? I have seem xp and ide do some odd stuff an example is my promise ultra 133 card you would think putting C: on ide 1 no slave and my second HDD on ide2 no slave and the ODD drives on motherboard ata-100 ide would be fine well hell if know why but it runs faster with both HDD on promise ide 1 nothing on ide 2 and ODD on motherboard ata-100 ide. I dont know why some kind weird timing with both HDD on masters of promise that goes away with HDD as master slave on ide1 __________________ Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz Intel D975XBX2 LG-GGW-H20L YL03 Plextor 755SA 1.08 Samsung SH-S203B SB03

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