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BenQ / Philips Burner Discuss, Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon! at CD and DVD Burners forum; Check out Erik Deppes' (Author of Nero CD-DVD Speed) post here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=227 I'm definitely excited to see these enhanced scanning features come to the BenQ822A. What do you guys think?


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Old 24-09-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Check out Erik Deppes' (Author of Nero CD-DVD Speed) post here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=227



I'm definitely excited to see these enhanced scanning features come to the BenQ822A.
What do you guys think?
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

That's great. When should we see a version that supports it?
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why could it not scan higher than 1x before?
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

It sounds like this applies to the DW1620 too.
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yes but I would like to know what was the cause of this terribly low scan rate
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Maybe they just need to figure out the command to speed it up.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Is this new firmware or just something that Erik can now do?
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

It doesn't appear to be a new firmware.
The screenshot shows B3HC.
Unless it is a "tweaked" version of the stock B3HC firmware...
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Wow. THATs really GREAT news. I hated waiting for hours for the scan to be completed.

Here is again the link to the complete thread:
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Erik let me know that a new version of CD-DVD Speed is required as well as a new firmware since there are issues with the preliminary tests...
Hopefully we'll see a fully functional combination soon.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

so what will be the eta and can we beta test it
btw 2 new firmware out for 1620 and all i just need to try scan is the said cd speed to try the enhanced scanning.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

I've tried the latest version of CD-Speed (as of today) v.3.30 with BenQ DW1620 fw B7K9 (latest fw) and it still scans at max 1x.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Here's a scan with DW1620 (B7K9) using CD-DVD Speed 3.30 at max scan speed.

As you can see, it's still 1x maximum.
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Hey relax.
The version with pif and variable speed is not ready yet.
And also one would need a new firmware which supports it.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

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Hey relax.
The version with pif and variable speed is not ready yet.
And also one would need a new firmware which supports it.
So you're saying when CD-DVD Speed comes out with it's update we'll have to wait for BenQ to come out with a new firmware? If so, is there any indication from BenQ that they will come out with a new firmware that supports these new CD-DVD Speed functions?
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

perhaps Erik Deppe can clear this up since new firmware has already been put out for both 822 and 1620. or maybe a newer firmware will have to be released. I gather this might be possible with dvdinfo too, I hope.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Well as all developers Erik surely has a lot to do and a tight schedule.
But he once wrote that the guys from benq were 'very enthusiastic' about the PIPO-Scanning with CD-DVD-Speed. And they should because for me at least it is a strong argument for buying this burner.
Everything looks to me like they helped him out with the needed information, so why should they do this and then not implement it in the firmware?! But this is of course only speculation from me side.
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

A firmware update may not be needed.
BenQ suggested a workaround for the issues and that works great.
I've posted a screenshot here
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Ah, I didn't mean my post as criticism. I was just showing the current state with the latest (early october) firmware, so that others know the situation.

I think Erik is doing a great job and I'm really looking forward to the new version of cd-dvd speed!
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Is there a way to dump the raw CDSpeed output? I am still getting bizarre results when using a 822A+ in his Firewire enclosure (while scanning for PIFs and while scanning for C2s). Anybody out here with the external version who did a succesfull scan?
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

ErikDeppe just wrote this in the other thread:

"The new version is being tested and normally it should be released later today.
That's the good news
The bad news is that the enhanced scanning function for BenQ recorders only works with the 8x burners at the moment.
For the 16x burners a new firmware or a new version of Nero CD-DVD Speed (or both) is needed. "


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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

Hi...

version 3.40 of cd-dvd speed is available.

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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

CD-DVD Speed 3.4
8X CAV disc quality test on BenQ 822A

This disc also looks crappy when scanned for PI/PIF in my LiteOn 411S drive.
I don't think the disc deserves a quality rating of 94.
I'll rescan at 4X to make a comparison.

General Information
Drive: ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12
Firmware: B3JC
Disc: DVD+R (YUDEN000 T02)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 1130
Average: 355.68
Total: 5930253
PI failures
Maximum: 11
Average: 1.38
Total: 11986
PO failures: 0
Jitter
Maximum: 35.7 %
Average: 23.90 %
Scanning statistics
Number of samples: 17764
Average scanning interval: 8.03 ECC
Glitches removed: 0
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Re: Enhanced BenQ 800A/822A PI/PIF scanning coming soon!

4X CAV scan on the same disc also looks craptastic...

General Information
Drive: ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12
Firmware: B3JC
Disc: DVD+R (YUDEN000 T02)
Selected speed: 4 X
PI errors
Maximum: 479
Average: 242.56
Total: 4009192
PI failures
Maximum: 9
Average: 0.67
Total: 4905
PO failures: 0
Jitter
Maximum: 31.0 %
Average: 22.24 %
Scanning statistics
Number of samples: 17791
Average scanning interval: 8.02 ECC
Glitches removed: 0
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I scanned the first burn of new cakebox of Mitsumi DVD+R 4X (cheap 50 cent media). 4.5GB of RAR files burnt at 4X, 822A B3JC and scanned with CD-DVD Speed 3.40.

Incidently, my JLMS XJ-HD166S gave terrible scan results for this burn.



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