Im getting a DW1650..but i wanna make sure whether is it good for burning dual layer DVDs or not?

if can..pls post some scans..thanks

Yes if you use Verbatim 2.4x and 8x rated media.
Post your BenQ DW1650 DL scans here
Post your BenQ DW1655 DL scans here

Damn..so many PIF errors..

Can the SB help to reduce the PIF errors?

SB does not work with DL.

oh crap..how can I improve the writing quality with DW1650

Please explain why you think the 1650 has poor quality DL burns in comparison to other burners.

Well..im not thinking that it has poor quality..Im just asking..I saw the screenshots of DL scans..PIF above 1000..isnt that bad?

No it's not bad. DL disk scans won't look like SL disk scans.

Try scanning some commercial pressed dvd9's and you'll typically see total PIFs 10,000 to 20,000 and higher. Are these bad? Lines and colors on a graph mean nothing without context.

Generally its "bad" when the Nero CD-DVD speed PIF chart gets into the red.

no. compared to other burners, its dog sh** at burning DL media. Why pay benQ ur money for DL burning when u can get a pioneer 111 or an another burner that can burn MKM 001 at 8x instead of the BenQ 1650 burning it at 2.4x? Some have had decent results with speed patching, but i and most others havent. conclusion; if you want DL burning at 8x, look somewhere else.

No problem burning @8x with my 1640, i stuck there 1650 where the sun dont shine!!

With a philips dl 2.4x my 1650 is very very bad!!!!!
Nero cd-dvd speed give me a lot of red line!!!

Perhaps benq wil solve in the next firmware relase?

How does the Philips DL burn using other burners?

So far ALL of my active burners have been shit with ALL DL discs I've tried, apart from Verbatim. There aren't many DL media codes out there anyway, and I think I must have tried them all by now. For me the cost of Verbatim DLs is still prohibiting anyway, but the cheaper brands are still very expensive for what they are: useless, badly-manufactured pieces of plastic that burn badly regardless of burner/frmwr used, and whose ultimate destination will most probably be your trash. At least the Verb DLs are decent, but you will pay the price in your local currency for that decency. Until the burner manufacturers can design chipsets and/or frmwrz that can produce at least half-decent results with cheaper DL media, I'd stick with single-layer Verbs or Yudens... Much cheaper to split your movies/data into two decent quality SL discs, rather than to pay such extortionate prices for DL media. Seasoned users will know all this anyway, so this is what I'd say to newer users who still want to burn DL:
1) You probably have a lot of money to 'burn'...
2) I you HAVE to burn DL, common sense and previous user experience dictates to stick with Verbatim DL media. That is, if you want your data to still be there a couple of years down the line after the burns...

I dont burn my DVDs with high speeds..I usually burn them lower thatn 8x to reduce the PIF errors..


Hmmm..Ive been think to spilt my movies too..but I hate changing discs while watching movies XD

But I still need to burn DL for some games..
I normally use Verbatim media and Mitsubishi Media for burning..Nothing else!

Btw..I usually get PIF around 250 for single layer Mitsubishi DVD+R..is it good..or just normal? I'm currently burning with my LiteOn SOHW1673

heloo..help help..

I encountered the same problem. I used to store images of such games on one of my external hard drives. Then I ran out of space, so I archived each DL image into a two-part archive with WinRAR, then burned each part on a different SL disc. Only problem is that I have to copy the two parts back into the same folder on the hard drive in order to extract the image and play, but for DL games that I finished with and just wanted to store away, splitting them into a two part WinRAR archive has been an ideal solution for me. Also if you have two or more game or application images that collectively are equal or less to a SL capacity, it's good to burn them all together as image files on a single disc, then mount the images you want to a virtual drive (like Alcohol) and install/play. You may encounter copy-protection problems, but as you most probably will already know there are ways around that, and this way you can keep your originals in mint condition.

Regarding the movie split, I personally would prefer to swap DVDs rather than pay today's prices for a pack of decent DL Verbs. I mean, you can buy a brand new DVD burner for less, the prices are just ridiculous...

any more comments??

The 1650 or 1655 both work great for burning 360 games as long as you use verbatim media....remember to bitset to dvd-rom

you mean dual layer or single?
i use verbatim and mitsubishi

Please post the Disc Quality scan and Transfer Rate test.

I saw the scans from another thread..so many PIF errors..not from my own scan

What about this?

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...63&postcount=7

Old thread about aged burner, but this drive is still burning crap DL discs better then many newer drives.

MID: RICOHJPN D01 (MediaRange branded) cheap crap.
Type: DVD+DL 8x rated
Burned with: CD DVD Speed 4.7.7.5
Burned as: Create Disc
Burned at: 8x speed
Burntime: 17'19'' (preburn calibration 26 seconds)
Drive/Firmware: BenQ DW1650/BCHC.
Note, only junk data burned, can't swear a movie would be playing back without issues.
Compare this burn with a burn on my latest burners, link.