DVD + or - R...which is better?? - Club CDFreaks

hurley1904 · 04-02-2005

Prolly a stupid question, but what is the general consensus on which plays better in most dvd players...+ or -. I use only +r and won't play correctly in some picky standalones, wondering if i should try some quality -r media.

*[H]itman* · 04-02-2005

DVD+R with bitsetting to DVD-ROM is what I use the most. You will find opinions both ways tho.

*Braxas* · 04-02-2005

I agree with [H]itman. There really is no better or worse when it comes to DVD's. It's what is the most compatible with your burner and your stand-alone dvd players. The BenQ is more + based so I would try +R media with the booktype of DVD-Rom which the BenQ does automatically.

If you are booktyping to DVD-Rom already and finding that the stand-alone in question is still being picky about the way the media plays then check to make sure that you are getting good burns through Nero CD/DVD Speed. If the burns are good then maybe trying -R media wouldn't be a bad idea. But as you said, hurley, make sure to use quality media. I'd say Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD-R's are a safe bet to ensure the best burns on a BenQ DW1620A.

*[H]itman* · 04-02-2005

hurley1904, were the +R discs you burned bitset to DVD-ROM? If so, do like Braxas said and try some QUALITY -R like Taiyo Yuden 8X TYG02. You can get a spindle of it from www.rima.com for $26.00.

Legs2sag · 04-02-2005

I find best results with +R bitset to DVD-ROM. If I don't bitset, I find my old LG player takes much longer to accept the disc, and sometimes will reject them altogether.

I would say, in my experience, that when burned correctly (ie, with bitsetting) +R is more compatible. But when bitsetting is not applied, -R is more compatible.

Why is there never a simle answer?!

Legs2Sag

oman · 04-02-2005

An old laptop dvd-rom (quite difficult & expensive to replace) reads both DVD-R and DVD+R with Booktype set to DVD-ROM. It reads the DVD+Rs much faster! So, if it is not for compatibility with an old device (DVD-Player or whatever), I would recommend DVD+R. I still use both but I have not written so many DVDs so far. As the laptop read DVD+R better, I think about moving there. Price of quality media can be a reason, too.

In "articles" (see top of cdfreaks) you can find a good article to start with containing some technical information (but well and comprehensible written) at http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113
which may help you to decide. But as everyone here says correctly, compatibility with your other readers will be the main factor in your decision.

If you dont know about compatibility, maybe get a single DVD-R and DVD+R of a quality brand like Verbatim and write them (dont forget to set Booktype for the DVD+R) with a DVD-Video (coz players may not read anything else) and see whether all your devices can read it.

Hope it helps a little bit.
Regards

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hurley1904 New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20	DVD + or - R...which is better?? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Prolly a stupid question, but what is the general consensus on which plays better in most dvd players...+ or -. I use only +r and won't play correctly in some picky standalones, wondering if i should try some quality -r media.

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[H]itman CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US Posts: 916	Re: DVD + or - R...which is better?? DVD+R with bitsetting to DVD-ROM is what I use the most. You will find opinions both ways tho. __________________ DVD+-RW: Pioneer DVR-111 DVD+-RW: Lite-On SHM-165P6S DVD+-RW: BenQ 1655 DVD+-RW: BenQ 1640 - SCANS DVD+-RW: BenQ 1620 x 2 - SCANS DVD+-RW: Plextor 716A - SCANS DVD+-RW: NEC ND-3500A DVD+-RW: Lite-On SOHW-832S READER: Lite-On SOHD-167T - Firmware=9S16 Patched by Codeguys READER: Lite-On SOHD-16P9S - Firmware=FS09 Patched

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Braxas CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,285	Re: DVD + or - R...which is better?? I agree with [H]itman. There really is no better or worse when it comes to DVD's. It's what is the most compatible with your burner and your stand-alone dvd players. The BenQ is more + based so I would try +R media with the booktype of DVD-Rom which the BenQ does automatically. If you are booktyping to DVD-Rom already and finding that the stand-alone in question is still being picky about the way the media plays then check to make sure that you are getting good burns through Nero CD/DVD Speed. If the burns are good then maybe trying -R media wouldn't be a bad idea. But as you said, hurley, make sure to use quality media. I'd say Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD-R's are a safe bet to ensure the best burns on a BenQ DW1620A. __________________ ...I will NEVER* buy another Lite-On Product...* BenQ DW1620 DVD-Burner w/B7U9 Firmware Samsung TS-H492A CD-RW/DVD Combo drive w/TB02 Firmware Mad Dog Dominator 6-in-1 (NEC ND2510A) w/2.F9 Firmware Abit AI7 uGuru motherboard Pentium 4 2.4 Gigahertz 800 megahertz FSB 512 (2x256)megs of Kingston PC-3200 DDR 1 Gigabyte (2x512) megs of Kingmax PC-3200 DDR 1.5 gigabytes total PC-3200 DDR Memory 2x80 gigabyte Western Digital Special Edition 8 megabyte buffer 7200 RPM IDE Hard Drives Radeon 9600SE 128 megabyte video card

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[H]itman CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US Posts: 916	Re: DVD + or - R...which is better?? hurley1904, were the +R discs you burned bitset to DVD-ROM? If so, do like Braxas said and try some QUALITY -R like Taiyo Yuden 8X TYG02. You can get a spindle of it from www.rima.com for $26.00. __________________ DVD+-RW: Pioneer DVR-111 DVD+-RW: Lite-On SHM-165P6S DVD+-RW: BenQ 1655 DVD+-RW: BenQ 1640 - SCANS DVD+-RW: BenQ 1620 x 2 - SCANS DVD+-RW: Plextor 716A - SCANS DVD+-RW: NEC ND-3500A DVD+-RW: Lite-On SOHW-832S READER: Lite-On SOHD-167T - Firmware=9S16 Patched by Codeguys READER: Lite-On SOHD-16P9S - Firmware=FS09 Patched

04-02-2005	#5 (permalink)
Legs2sag CD Freaks Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London Posts: 163	Re: DVD + or - R...which is better?? I find best results with +R bitset to DVD-ROM. If I don't bitset, I find my old LG player takes much longer to accept the disc, and sometimes will reject them altogether. I would say, in my experience, that when burned correctly (ie, with bitsetting) +R is more compatible. But when bitsetting is not applied, -R is more compatible. Why is there never a simle answer?! Legs2Sag __________________ Legs2Sag AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (939 pin Venice) with Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939 1GB RAM (2 x 512Mb PC3200 matched pair) Connect 3d Radeon 9550@9600 (256Mb) 1 x Maxtor 250GB SATA HDD 1 x Maxtor 250Gb SATA II@SATA I HDD (spare) 1 x Maxtor 120GB SATA HDD 2 x Philips 1628@BenQ1640 (TDB BSLB) (1 spare) 1 x LG H10A@H10L (TDB JL11) 1 x Pioneer DVR111D@111L (TDB Buffalo 8.19) 1 x LiteOn 165P6S (MSON)

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oman CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 429	Re: DVD + or - R...which is better?? An old laptop dvd-rom (quite difficult & expensive to replace) reads both DVD-R and DVD+R with Booktype set to DVD-ROM. It reads the DVD+Rs much faster! So, if it is not for compatibility with an old device (DVD-Player or whatever), I would recommend DVD+R. I still use both but I have not written so many DVDs so far. As the laptop read DVD+R better, I think about moving there. Price of quality media can be a reason, too. In "articles" (see top of cdfreaks) you can find a good article to start with containing some technical information (but well and comprehensible written) at http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113 which may help you to decide. But as everyone here says correctly, compatibility with your other readers will be the main factor in your decision. If you dont know about compatibility, maybe get a single DVD-R and DVD+R of a quality brand like Verbatim and write them (dont forget to set Booktype for the DVD+R) with a DVD-Video (coz players may not read anything else) and see whether all your devices can read it. Hope it helps a little bit. Regards