Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? - Club CDFreaks

Clany · 16-05-2005

Its a question im asking me since i bought the benq is it better to use the nvidia ide drivers or the ms ones ?!

*chas0039* · 16-05-2005

I have never heard of or seen anyone who had a better experience. I have heard of many, many problems solved by returning to MS drivers.

Clany · 16-05-2005

So i should go back to the ms ide drivers ?

chocoholic1 · 16-05-2005

Go back to the MS IDE drivers! While I did not have any crashes with the Nvidia drivers, my +RW disks do not often play in my Philips home DVD player. With the MS drivers, they always play fine.

Gaius Baltar · 16-05-2005

Nvidia IDE drivers can perform significantly better in many disk I/O circumstances, but they can also have compatability issues, some of which are very severe. MS drivers are often (but not always) slower, but they are a lot more compatible with everything.

DrOktor · 16-05-2005

I had the problem that with the MS drivers the Jitter in the qualitytest was no longer reportet. With nvidia drivers that problem went away.
But I normally would also recommend using the MS drivers - as long you don't have problems with them like I had.

grindcore · 17-05-2005

i'm currently using the latest nvidia ide driver (from the nforce 5.10 package) and everything works nicely. i've got an nforce2 chipset. from a few things i've read the nforce3's ide is possibly a bit more troublesome though that could be untrue.

when i installed the nvidia ide driver i did have some problems with the installed ASPI version (installed using ForceASPI). i fixed this by getting Nero's WNASPI32.DLL and copying it over the old one in c:\windows\system32 (backing up the old one first, of course!).

i'd say if you're not having any problems stick with the nvidia driver.

Pluri · 18-05-2005

How can one go back to the MS IDE drivers?
What to do?
Thanks.

Gaius Baltar · 18-05-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluri

How can one go back to the MS IDE drivers?
What to do?
Thanks.

You have to go into control panel -> system -> hardware -> device manager -> ide/ATAPI controllers -> right click "update driver" -> don't connect to windows update -> install from list or specific location -> don't search (I will choose driver to install -> select "standard dual channel PCI IDE controller" -> next -> reboot.

DrOktor · 18-05-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaius Baltar

You have to go into control panel -> system -> hardware -> device manager -> ide/ATAPI controllers -> right click "update driver" -> don't connect to windows update -> install from list or specific location -> don't search (I will choose driver to install -> select "standard dual channel PCI IDE controller" -> next -> reboot.

Or you can simply use the Add/Remove Software in the Control Panel and select the nvidia driver package, it then will ask you which component you want do uninmstall.

Gaius Baltar · 18-05-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrOktor

Or you can simply use the Add/Remove Software in the Control Panel and select the nvidia driver package, it then will ask you which component you want do uninmstall.

Last time I tried that Windows automatically reinstalled the Nvidia drivers as being the best match with the hardware. That's why I like to force it to install a specific driver, rather than just uninstall the old one and leave it to Windows to choose a replacement.

APVM · 19-05-2005

Been using Nvidia drivers from day one, no problems at all.

*bichonn* · 19-05-2005

Nvidia drivers can bring problems if you also use ASPI !!!! I don't use ASPI so I kept my very good Nvidia driver and I am happy with it !!!

Pluri · 21-05-2005

Is there any gain of using ASPI or not use it?

*Quikee* · 21-05-2005

Heh.. most programs are build for ASPI.. there is no way you can avoid of ASPI use if the program doesn't support STPI. Still the use of ASPI instead of STPI is recommended (for PlexTools for example).
Also there are more ASPI libraries.. most common and the most buggy is the Adaptec ASPI library (Force ASPI) which wasn't build for CD/DVD Burners anyway. There is also Nero ASPI which all Nero applications use.. this library is more suited for CD/DVD burners because it was build only for them in mind. Nero ASPI also works without problem with NVidia IDE drivers so if a program that uses ASPI has problems it may be good to copy Nero ASPI from Nero directory to the programs directory and see what happends.

MHTSOS · 21-05-2005

What protocol does Nero CDSpeed uses? STPI, ASPI or Nero ASPI?

*Quikee* · 21-05-2005

Nero ASPI... as I said all Nero applications use Nero ASPI.

MHTSOS · 21-05-2005

Can i change that? It seems that Nero ASPI is VERY buggy (on my PC) when doing quality scans with my BenQ 1620. DVDInfo works much better with STPI. But I don't like DVDInfo

*Quikee* · 21-05-2005

Hmm... you could copy WNASPI32.DLL from Windows\System32 directory if you have ForceASPI installed to the directory where Nero has his ASPI stored (C:\program files\Ahead\Nero by default) and don't forget to backup WNASPI32.DLL in Nero directory (prior copying rename it to WNASPI32.DLL2 for example).

To force Nero CD/DVD speed to use STPI is however impossible.. STPI is something completely different than ASPI. =)

MHTSOS · 21-05-2005

I'll give it a try....

16-05-2005	#1 (permalink)
Clany CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 445	Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Its a question im asking me since i bought the benq is it better to use the nvidia ide drivers or the ms ones ?!

16-05-2005	#2 (permalink)
chas0039 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lost in America Posts: 7,063	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? I have never heard of or seen anyone who had a better experience. I have heard of many, many problems solved by returning to MS drivers. __________________ Still a few bugs in the system...

16-05-2005	#3 (permalink)
Clany CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 445	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? So i should go back to the ms ide drivers ?

16-05-2005	#4 (permalink)
chocoholic1 New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Go back to the MS IDE drivers! While I did not have any crashes with the Nvidia drivers, my +RW disks do not often play in my Philips home DVD player. With the MS drivers, they always play fine.

16-05-2005	#5 (permalink)
Gaius Baltar CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 253	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Nvidia IDE drivers can perform significantly better in many disk I/O circumstances, but they can also have compatability issues, some of which are very severe. MS drivers are often (but not always) slower, but they are a lot more compatible with everything.

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16-05-2005	#6 (permalink)
DrOktor CD Freaks Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dortmund, Germany Posts: 119	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? I had the problem that with the MS drivers the Jitter in the qualitytest was no longer reportet. With nvidia drivers that problem went away. But I normally would also recommend using the MS drivers - as long you don't have problems with them like I had.

17-05-2005	#7 (permalink)
grindcore New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: melbourne, au. Posts: 22	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? i'm currently using the latest nvidia ide driver (from the nforce 5.10 package) and everything works nicely. i've got an nforce2 chipset. from a few things i've read the nforce3's ide is possibly a bit more troublesome though that could be untrue. when i installed the nvidia ide driver i did have some problems with the installed ASPI version (installed using ForceASPI). i fixed this by getting Nero's WNASPI32.DLL and copying it over the old one in c:\windows\system32 (backing up the old one first, of course!). i'd say if you're not having any problems stick with the nvidia driver. __________________ Currently: BenQ DW1620 (B7V9) -/- LiteOn SOHC-5232K Old drives: LiteOn LTC-48161H -/- Pioneer DVD-116 -/- Teac CD-524EA -/- Yamaha CRW8424S

18-05-2005	#8 (permalink)
Pluri New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? How can one go back to the MS IDE drivers? What to do? Thanks.

19-05-2005	#12 (permalink)
APVM CD Freaks Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 158	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Been using Nvidia drivers from day one, no problems at all.

19-05-2005	#13 (permalink)
bichonn CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St Gratien, Fr Posts: 1,417	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Nvidia drivers can bring problems if you also use ASPI !!!! I don't use ASPI so I kept my very good Nvidia driver and I am happy with it !!! __________________ Philips 1648p1 /\ BenQ 1650 \/ Samsung SH-S203B Vista Pro 64 /\ Athlon X2 6000 \/ ASUS M2N SLI DLX /\ 4 go Gskill Extreme 6400 HZ \/ Connect3D HD 3870 512 mb Get your BEST Silicon Image 0680 bios for your addon cards HERE

21-05-2005	#14 (permalink)
Pluri New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Is there any gain of using ASPI or not use it?

21-05-2005	#15 (permalink)
Quikee Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia Posts: 2,775	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Heh.. most programs are build for ASPI.. there is no way you can avoid of ASPI use if the program doesn't support STPI. Still the use of ASPI instead of STPI is recommended (for PlexTools for example). Also there are more ASPI libraries.. most common and the most buggy is the Adaptec ASPI library (Force ASPI) which wasn't build for CD/DVD Burners anyway. There is also Nero ASPI which all Nero applications use.. this library is more suited for CD/DVD burners because it was build only for them in mind. Nero ASPI also works without problem with NVidia IDE drivers so if a program that uses ASPI has problems it may be good to copy Nero ASPI from Nero directory to the programs directory and see what happends. __________________ NecDump, WOPC Tool, BQFlasher 0.7.2 (+source), DVDScanner, DVDWrite,...

21-05-2005	#16 (permalink)
MHTSOS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Athens Posts: 95	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? What protocol does Nero CDSpeed uses? STPI, ASPI or Nero ASPI?

21-05-2005	#17 (permalink)
Quikee Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia Posts: 2,775	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Nero ASPI... as I said all Nero applications use Nero ASPI. __________________ NecDump, WOPC Tool, BQFlasher 0.7.2 (+source), DVDScanner, DVDWrite,...

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21-05-2005	#18 (permalink)
MHTSOS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Athens Posts: 95	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Can i change that? It seems that Nero ASPI is VERY buggy (on my PC) when doing quality scans with my BenQ 1620. DVDInfo works much better with STPI. But I don't like DVDInfo

21-05-2005	#19 (permalink)
Quikee Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia Posts: 2,775	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? Hmm... you could copy WNASPI32.DLL from Windows\System32 directory if you have ForceASPI installed to the directory where Nero has his ASPI stored (C:\program files\Ahead\Nero by default) and don't forget to backup WNASPI32.DLL in Nero directory (prior copying rename it to WNASPI32.DLL2 for example). To force Nero CD/DVD speed to use STPI is however impossible.. STPI is something completely different than ASPI. =) __________________ NecDump, WOPC Tool, BQFlasher 0.7.2 (+source), DVDScanner, DVDWrite,...

21-05-2005	#20 (permalink)
MHTSOS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Athens Posts: 95	Re: Benq and nvidia ide drivers or better ms ide drivers ? I'll give it a try....