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| Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? I know these two drives are based on the exact same chipset. It just seems there have been several reviews with the two, (Anandtech and CDRinfo for example) and the Plextor PX-740A seems to produce way better quality discs than the Benq 1640. The total errors on the Plextor tend to be almost a third less than the BenQ. I am just curious why someone might choose one over the other. Right now I would imagine the quality would outweigh the price. Comments? |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
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__________________ Asus K8N Athlon 64 3200+ Corsair XMS 1 gig PC4000 ATI Radeon 9600 Pro XT (256 DDR) HD: Hitachi 80 gig SATA\150 DVD-ROM1: Lite-ON SOHD 167T BenQ 1640 Firmware BSMB(QSuite 2.1) Plextor PX-712SA TLA# 0105A Firmware 1.08 | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Hi The answer is f/w Plextor so far have released 101 f/w BenQ so far have released BSGB, BSHB, BSIB & BSJB With the original f/w Plextor may well have had the edge BenQ with it's latest f/w is possibly taken into the lead for the time being at least Add to this that you can use MCSE (Media Code Speed Edit) BenQ would seem to be the better investment Should the gap between the two increase significantly you can always cross flash Oh! &last but not least BenQ supports bitsetting Oh! of course BenQ cheaper |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
Personally I'm all for the 1640 ![]() | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Hi eric93se I've been told True full bitsetting can only be achieved with the Plextor 740 by use of BenQ software I should have made that clearer The point being about manufacturer's support Although Nero should do this I don't know for sure as I swapped my 740 for 1640 as I felt the BenQ was / will be the better option |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? I've just flashed my BenQ 1640 to a Plextor 740A. I'm going to burn 5 CD Speed test discs of different types on the Plextor (RICOH JPN R01, CMC MAG E01, MCC 003, MCC 004, and YUDEN000-T02) and then 5 with the drive as a BenQ. This sounds like a interesting test of the Plextor firmware. I'll post back with my results. I had no problems flashing to Plextor and then back to Benq firmware using DWFlash and a CVT. |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? It's a brilliant idea to put to the test, Dalen Quaice. While you're at it try finding out how Autostrategy would work, which would be a preview of the upcoming Solid Burn in the Benq's.
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Here are scans of 5 discs I burned with my BenQ drive as a Plextor 740A v. 1.01 One thing to note is that Plextor's version of WOPC is always on and can't be deactivated. I was also unable to verify that autostrategy was either on or off - I don't think it is supported in this firmware yet as the speed scans looked virtually identical to the BenQ with WOPC on. I created data discs using Nero CD/DVD Speed. However, as a Plextor the drive does not support Disc Quality check, so the scans were created using the BenQ1640 with BSIB. Overall, I had no issues with my drive as a Plextor and the burns went very smoothly. MCC 004 @ 12x, RICOH @ 4x, MCC 003 @ 8x, CMC @ 8x, YUDEN @ 8x. |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Here are 5 discs created with BenQ 1640 using BSIB firmware. I created data discs using Nero CD/DVD Speed. WOPC was turned on. MCC 004 @ 12x, RICOH @ 4x, MCC 003 @ 8x, CMC @ 8x, YUDEN @ 8x |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? @Dalen Quaice Good job! Do you have the disc quality scan of the same media burned by BSIB? I am interested to see if they have great differences. One more questio, Is BSIB better than BSJB ? It seems BSIB has been pulled away from official website.
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? I like BSIB better than BSJB, but I only burn +R discs. I get spikes at about 3.5gb into a disc with BSJB which are annoying. The BSIB burns follow the Plextor scans in the next post. You may have missed these when scrolling down. |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
__________________ I do not provide technical support over E-mail or Private Message Please post your questions on the Forum Sign up to CD Freaks Register Here FORUM RULES Need some help ? Please use our search function first Join us on the CDFreaks Folding@Home Team! Read more here Get WinDWFlash HERE My Computer specs are HERE | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
Excellent I had similar idea only have MCC 03 & MCC 004 Using BSJB you can see spike that you refer to | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? As far as I can tell, the Plextor firmware does not overspeed on any media that I have tried so far. I tried opening the firmware in MediaCodeSpeedEdit to view all the codes, but that did not work. Yes, I got a CVT file from Plextor's site that I flashed with DWFlash instead of their own PXFirm.exe -- |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
__________________ I do not provide technical support over E-mail or Private Message Please post your questions on the Forum Sign up to CD Freaks Register Here FORUM RULES Need some help ? Please use our search function first Join us on the CDFreaks Folding@Home Team! Read more here Get WinDWFlash HERE My Computer specs are HERE | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
I did same & have now PXFirm.exe Can't say there's any difference | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Quote:
__________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008 | |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? Currently I do not want to release the Plextor support, and I see no need to do so. The Plextor firmware is just an older Benq firmware, having some features disabled. The +R tables of 1.01 and BSHB use identical strategy data, just as an example.
__________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008 |
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? ala42 Do you by chance know how the Plextor 740 would have Auto Strategy activated ? Is it only by means of Plextools with their current firmware ? It would be an indication of how Qsuite 2.0 will interact with the upcoming BSKB.
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| Re: Benq DW1640 or Plextor PX-740A? nice posts Dalen Quaice. looks like benq needs to do some work to fix that spike in BSJB. i guess right now, v1.01>BSIB. but also having trouble getting older benq fw's. they seem to have password protected the 1640 download center in benq's global webpage |
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