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| New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2004
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| BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Hi all, PLEASE HELP I am at my witts end with this. No matter what l do my Benq burner (1650: BCFC RPC1) will not burn any media above 4x. I have tried different burning programs (nero, imgburn, dvd decrypter) all with the same results and also 3 different firmwares (orig, BCHC and BCFC). Have tried with different configs through Qsuite also. I am using TY media (G02?) from the same 100pc batch as l have been using for the last 6 months and they have been perfect, unitl now. Also, l bought some +r (MCC 03) verbatims and also some -r MCC02 verbatims and experience the same problems - definately not media! I have ran diagnostics on both the harddrives and defrag'd too to make sure quality of source isnt an issue. Checked voltages on mboard all seems right. My next steps are to check RAM. Could it be a power supply issue? Like, the PS not giving enough power to Benq to write at 8x? (Just brainstorming here). My recently departed NEC DVDRW drive got a "power calibration error" when burning and l was told it was in the process of dying so l turfed it for the Benq - this error however does not appear..... it simply just gets I/O errors on verify after burn. I would be grateful for any help anyone can give. Darrin |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: USA
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Is DMA ENABLED on the 1650 drive? What brand is your motherboard? Please post your computer specs which will be easier for members to help you.
__________________ Benq's 1620,1640,1650,1655 Pioneer 710@111L Pioneer 1810@112L Liteon LH-18A1P LG GSA-H62L Sata Pioneer Sata 212, 215, 216 ![]() Samsung 183L Sata Samsung S203B Sata |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Sempron 2800+ Gigabyte GA K8NS (F18 bios) - nforce IDE drivers 2x Corsair 256MB RAM 2x 200GB HD (WD and Seagate) BenQ 1650 (BCFC rpc1) Not sure about DMA enabling. Will check tonight. Should it be on or off? Also, l have just flashed to F18 bios thinking that may help -it didnt. And also l have tried rolling back nforce IDE drivers to microsoft ones - still no joy. |
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| DVD Freak Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Nordic Region
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Sorry to hear about your problems Lincoln_blitz. ![]() Make sure you use 80 conductor IDE cable and that you have DMA mode (or auto for the IDE channel drive is connected to) enabled in bios. Consult manual. Run this test . This might not solve your problems but will give you a hint where the problem is. BTW, make sure your media is not fake. Taiyo Yuden dash media has MID TYG0*, and the MCC plus are MCC-00* / and dash MCC 0*RG*0. * symbol can represent a figure between 1 and 4. |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plymouth, UK
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw I would also try either removing or updating the nForce motherboard drivers. Some people have had luck getting the newest nForce IDE drivers to work and some had to revert back to the Microsoft ones. The one thing most people had in common though is that the older nForce caused errors when using IDE burners.
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Quote:
I have verified that DMA is enabled and that l am using the 80pin cable. Can also confirm l am using genuine TYG02 DVD-r's. Any other thoughts? | |
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| CD Freaks Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw #1, why are you burning TYG02s at 4x? they burn very nicely at 8x also, why are you scanning at maximum? normal scanning speed for benq is 8x. and that looks like a VERY old version of nero cd-dvd speed. not that it makes a difference i don't think, but having up to date software is always nice. the pif spikes are strange, but until you scan at 8x we can't really tell if it's just an anomaly from scanning so fast or if there's really a problem. |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Quote:
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Qsuite settings are, WOPC disabled, Overspeed disabled, solid burn disabled. | ||
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| MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Quote:
You get I/O errors when verifying with your burning software. Which exact error message do you get ? Do you also get I/O errors when copying the files from DVD back to your hard disk ? If so, do you also get errors when reading older burned disks or with DVD-ROMs ?
__________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008 | |
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__________________ My Current Phenomenal System I love life...Yeah, I'm sad, but at the same time, I'm really happy that something could make me feel that sad. It's like...It makes me feel alive, you know. It makes me feel human. The only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt something really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good. So I guess what I'm feeling is like a beautiful sadness. Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. The truth can be found here http://jhtalisman.blogspot.com/ The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them-words shrink things that seemed limitless when in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a teller but for the want of an understanding ear. - Stephen King, intro to "The Body." | |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Quote:
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__________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008 | |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Lincoln, can you post a Nero log? Set at max your drive should be quality scanning at 16x, so there is a definite problem somewhere in your system. The Nero log will give us more in depth specifics of your computers settings so that maybe we can help you get this figured out. Make sure to remove your serial# from it though.
__________________ My Current Phenomenal System I love life...Yeah, I'm sad, but at the same time, I'm really happy that something could make me feel that sad. It's like...It makes me feel alive, you know. It makes me feel human. The only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt something really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good. So I guess what I'm feeling is like a beautiful sadness. Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. The truth can be found here http://jhtalisman.blogspot.com/ The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them-words shrink things that seemed limitless when in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a teller but for the want of an understanding ear. - Stephen King, intro to "The Body." |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Also just did a straight copy from Benq to C:\ and it went normally until it registered 45 seconds to go..... the time blew out to 9 minutes..... then recovered and finished in about 1min - no IO errors. Strange....dont know if its related. |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Looks like it's burning alright, is there any particular reason why you're using disc at once? Everything should be fine if you create the image file and then burn instead of doing both at the same time. It may take a little bit longer, but is a much better method and will yield more consistant results in the long run.
__________________ My Current Phenomenal System I love life...Yeah, I'm sad, but at the same time, I'm really happy that something could make me feel that sad. It's like...It makes me feel alive, you know. It makes me feel human. The only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt something really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good. So I guess what I'm feeling is like a beautiful sadness. Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. The truth can be found here http://jhtalisman.blogspot.com/ The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them-words shrink things that seemed limitless when in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a teller but for the want of an understanding ear. - Stephen King, intro to "The Body." |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Well firstly, how did you verify UDMA? You should verify it in Windows. Do not trust the bios. Secondly, in fact with the Benq 1640 it should be running at UDMA mode 2/66. UDMA1/33 indicated a problem. Even if it is UDMA2/66 in Windows, the first thing I would do would be to replace the IDE cable. It could be a problem and it's difficult to diagnose. RAM is also important. I was getting major problems when my RAM was dying. My RAM was stable enough that the comp was fairly stable (didn't crash) but burns were a different matter.. Finally, especially since you only have 512mb RAM, I would recommend you ensure your burning is fairly dedicated. Close all unnecessary background Windows and tasks... |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Well l replaced the IDE cable and l still get issues. Also checked RAM with memtestx86 for 3 hrs no problems. Nil Einne - l also verified that Windows has DMA mode enabled on the secondary channel. I assume you check this device manager - advanced settings on channel devices?? Here is a copy of the IO error l get when verifying after a burn - Any other ideas? |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw when you verified it was DMA, did you also check to make sure it was running at UDMA2? Also, I just remembered something. Various copy protection systems are known to make problems with burning. StarForce is probably the worst so if you have ever played a StarForce game or if you're simply not sure, use the StarForce removal tool... (Well ignoring Sony's rootkit, I hope no one still has that...) |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Stumpled on this thread and noticed similar symptoms as ive had. Also you seem to have nvidia motherboard. Not sure if this helps but i fixed my I/O errors by reinstalling nvidia drivers. This was suggested here... http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....ht=I%2FO+error |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Quote:
I checked for StarForce very early in the piece after searching cdfreak forums. The PC is really only used for media server/htpc duties, so no real games on there at all.... that said l will double check again and run the removal tool anyway to eliminate everything before looking at PSU's. I did a check via a Power Supply calculator and seemed l was using about 275 Watts in total..... maybe its asking too much from my 300W coolermaster psu... the thing is my PC has remained in its current spec since having that PSU. | |
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| Re: BENQ Burning problems - the final straw Quote:
Slightly OT but does the 1650 light change when writing? (from green to red)? Mine has always stayed green. | |
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