"Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? - Page 2 - Club CDFreaks

*chas0039* · 23-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Vasy

ok. let's say I wanna do it. Where can I find this JJ11 firmware and What kind of flashing software do I need for making a JL11 H10N a JJ11 H10N. Thanks a lot.

http://tdb.rpc1.org/

Vasy · 23-06-2006

but can I go back to JL11, or in general for LG dvd-writers can I go back to the original firmware?

*KTL* · 23-06-2006

Yes, you can go back-and-forth with TDB's firmwares: JL03 <=> JL11 <=> JJ11.

*dodecahedron* · 23-06-2006

the firmware is here:
http://tdb.rpc1.org/#GSAH10N

you can afterwards flash with TDB's patched JL11 firmware, after that you'll be able to flash with "regular" unpatched LG firmwars that will be released in the future.

Vasy · 26-06-2006

Do you think that's a better idea an H10N than a 4166b (except the LightScribe of 4166b) from a point of quality ? H10N supports UDMA4 only if I flash it with JJ11, but 4166B comes "nativelly" with UDMA4 and reading of DVD+-r at 16x. Also 4166b is not a Renesas chipset based, it's a Panasonic, maybe it's better couse of this but I don't think so.
What would you sugest to do ? I khow that H10N has some good new capabilities (12 DVD-RAM most important). I'm not really interested in LightScribe feature of 4166B. I want it only because of "very good to excellent" CDFreaks mark

I don't know which to buy. What would you do?

Vasy · 26-06-2006

Is there a posibillity that LG will make an original firmware for upgrading to UDMA4? and riplock?

pejakm · 26-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Vasy

Is there a posibillity that LG will make an original firmware for upgrading to UDMA4? and riplock?

He-he-he...

SaBoCD · 26-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Vasy

I don't know which to buy. What would you do?

I'd go for H10A (pretty cheap) and cross-flash it to H10N.

Sascha

Vasy · 28-06-2006

Are ASUS dvd-writter good for quality scaning of CD\DVDs made with LG dvd-writters ? (excluding H10A/N/L, H20X).I heard that Benq dosn't like H10X/H20X quality, but for Lite-On is ok. I mean for 4166B, 4167B, 4163B, etc
I know that ASUS dvd-writters are very slow scanning, but I want to know if their results reflect the real quality of that media written with LG.
Wich are very good for scaning? Only Lite-On?

Vasy · 28-06-2006

Can LG select DVD-ROM booktype for DVD+R and DVD+R DL ?

*dodecahedron* · 28-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasy

Are ASUS dvd-writter good for quality scaning of CD\DVDs made with LG dvd-writters ? (excluding H10A/N/L, H20X).I heard that Benq dosn't like H10X/H20X quality, but for Lite-On is ok. I mean for 4166B, 4167B, 4163B, etc
I know that ASUS dvd-writters are very slow scanning, but I want to know if their results reflect the real quality of that media written with LG.
Wich are very good for scaning? Only Lite-On?

Asus are rebadged Pioneer drives, and Pioneer drives aren't very good scanners.
use a Lite-On or BenQ for scanning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasy

Can LG select DVD-ROM booktype for DVD+R and DVD+R DL?

yes.

Vasy · 28-06-2006

thanks!

. Is there a posibility as one LG GSA-4166B drive to work ok, no problems at writting or reading or compatibility with system, BUT the quality wouldn't be as one described in that review fron CDFreaks?
thanks

Vasy · 28-06-2006

Is it true that 1.01 firmware of 4166b can write -R DL at 6x? I saw that on cdrinfo forum

**karangguni** · 29-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasy

Are ASUS dvd-writter good for quality scaning of CD\DVDs made with LG dvd-writters ? (excluding H10A/N/L, H20X).I heard that Benq dosn't like H10X/H20X quality, but for Lite-On is ok. I mean for 4166B, 4167B, 4163B, etc
I know that ASUS dvd-writters are very slow scanning, but I want to know if their results reflect the real quality of that media written with LG.
Wich are very good for scaning? Only Lite-On?

The problem with BenQ writers used as scanning drives applies ONLY to burns done with the H10x/E10x series of writers. Burns from all other LG models should not be affected by this and scan fine on BenQ writers. Since your drive is a GSA-4166B, you don't have to worry about this.

However, as dodecahedron mentioned, Asustek DVD writers are not really good scanning drives anyway so you should avoid them if you are want a scanning drive.

Ascii2 · 29-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Vasy

What should I look for? GSA-4166B or GSA-4166BI?

Whichever is cheaper.

SaBoCD · 29-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasy

Is it true that 1.01 firmware of 4166b can write -R DL at 6x? I saw that on cdrinfo forum

Nope, DVD-R DL write speed is 4x max on this drive.

Sascha

Vasy · 29-06-2006

what about -R DL at 2x writting speed? In the specifications I saw only 4x speed. Really only 4x?

*dodecahedron* · 29-06-2006

Vasy, if you look at this link you'll see that the GSA-4166B firmware has Verbatim DVD-R DL (MKM 01RD30) with 2x, 4x and 6x write speeds.

here's the pic:

Vasy · 29-06-2006

thanks ...

nice. I have to try this MKM 01RD30

23-06-2006	#27 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? but can I go back to JL11, or in general for LG dvd-writers can I go back to the original firmware?

23-06-2006	#28 (permalink)
KTL CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,991	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Yes, you can go back-and-forth with TDB's firmwares: JL03 <=> JL11 <=> JJ11. __________________ PC Specifications PC #1 PC #2 Codeguys Codeguys Mirror How To: Enable Samsung Scanning in CD-DVD Speed Remove upper and lower filters

23-06-2006	#29 (permalink)
dodecahedron CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 667	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? the firmware is here: http://tdb.rpc1.org/#GSAH10N you can afterwards flash with TDB's patched JL11 firmware, after that you'll be able to flash with "regular" unpatched LG firmwars that will be released in the future. __________________ One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them JRRT

26-06-2006	#30 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Do you think that's a better idea an H10N than a 4166b (except the LightScribe of 4166b) from a point of quality ? H10N supports UDMA4 only if I flash it with JJ11, but 4166B comes "nativelly" with UDMA4 and reading of DVD+-r at 16x. Also 4166b is not a Renesas chipset based, it's a Panasonic, maybe it's better couse of this but I don't think so. What would you sugest to do ? I khow that H10N has some good new capabilities (12 DVD-RAM most important). I'm not really interested in LightScribe feature of 4166B. I want it only because of "very good to excellent" CDFreaks mark I don't know which to buy. What would you do?

26-06-2006	#31 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Is there a posibillity that LG will make an original firmware for upgrading to UDMA4? and riplock?

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28-06-2006	#34 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Are ASUS dvd-writter good for quality scaning of CD\DVDs made with LG dvd-writters ? (excluding H10A/N/L, H20X).I heard that Benq dosn't like H10X/H20X quality, but for Lite-On is ok. I mean for 4166B, 4167B, 4163B, etc I know that ASUS dvd-writters are very slow scanning, but I want to know if their results reflect the real quality of that media written with LG. Wich are very good for scaning? Only Lite-On? __________________ Current drives - LG GH20NS10 EL01 - LITE-ON LH-20A1H LL0D - LITE-ON DH-20A3P XV6D HT735 - LITE-ON SHW-16H5S LS0W - SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04 (external via USB 2.0) - PIONEER DVR-215 1.18 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 - PIONEER DVR-112D 1.24 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 (external via USB 2.0) - SONY CRX230E QYS3 (external via USB 2.0)

28-06-2006	#35 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Can LG select DVD-ROM booktype for DVD+R and DVD+R DL ? __________________ Current drives - LG GH20NS10 EL01 - LITE-ON LH-20A1H LL0D - LITE-ON DH-20A3P XV6D HT735 - LITE-ON SHW-16H5S LS0W - SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04 (external via USB 2.0) - PIONEER DVR-215 1.18 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 - PIONEER DVR-112D 1.24 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 (external via USB 2.0) - SONY CRX230E QYS3 (external via USB 2.0)

28-06-2006	#37 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? thanks! . Is there a posibility as one LG GSA-4166B drive to work ok, no problems at writting or reading or compatibility with system, BUT the quality wouldn't be as one described in that review fron CDFreaks? thanks __________________ Current drives - LG GH20NS10 EL01 - LITE-ON LH-20A1H LL0D - LITE-ON DH-20A3P XV6D HT735 - LITE-ON SHW-16H5S LS0W - SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04 (external via USB 2.0) - PIONEER DVR-215 1.18 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 - PIONEER DVR-112D 1.24 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 (external via USB 2.0) - SONY CRX230E QYS3 (external via USB 2.0)

28-06-2006	#38 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Is it true that 1.01 firmware of 4166b can write -R DL at 6x? I saw that on cdrinfo forum __________________ Current drives - LG GH20NS10 EL01 - LITE-ON LH-20A1H LL0D - LITE-ON DH-20A3P XV6D HT735 - LITE-ON SHW-16H5S LS0W - SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04 (external via USB 2.0) - PIONEER DVR-215 1.18 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 - PIONEER DVR-112D 1.24 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 (external via USB 2.0) - SONY CRX230E QYS3 (external via USB 2.0)

29-06-2006	#42 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? what about -R DL at 2x writting speed? In the specifications I saw only 4x speed. Really only 4x? __________________ Current drives - LG GH20NS10 EL01 - LITE-ON LH-20A1H LL0D - LITE-ON DH-20A3P XV6D HT735 - LITE-ON SHW-16H5S LS0W - SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04 (external via USB 2.0) - PIONEER DVR-215 1.18 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 - PIONEER DVR-112D 1.24 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 (external via USB 2.0) - SONY CRX230E QYS3 (external via USB 2.0)

29-06-2006	#43 (permalink)
dodecahedron CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 667	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? Vasy, if you look at this link you'll see that the GSA-4166B firmware has Verbatim DVD-R DL (MKM 01RD30) with 2x, 4x and 6x write speeds. here's the pic: __________________ One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them JRRT

29-06-2006	#44 (permalink)
Vasy CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sibiu, Romania Posts: 202	Re: "Panasonic based" LG or Renesas based LG ? thanks ... nice. I have to try this MKM 01RD30 __________________ Current drives - LG GH20NS10 EL01 - LITE-ON LH-20A1H LL0D - LITE-ON DH-20A3P XV6D HT735 - LITE-ON SHW-16H5S LS0W - SAMSUNG SH-S203B SB04 (external via USB 2.0) - PIONEER DVR-215 1.18 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 - PIONEER DVR-112D 1.24 w/ BookType Setting & RPC1 (external via USB 2.0) - SONY CRX230E QYS3 (external via USB 2.0)

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