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Old 07-06-2005   #1
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LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

It is now selling in HK !

LG DVD GSA-4166B

(1) Enhanced IDE (ATAPI) interface
(2) Internal Half-height Drive
(3) CD-R/RW, DVD-R / -R DL / RW / +R / +R DL / +RW read and write compatible CD Family and DVD-ROM read compatible
(4) Buffer Under-run prevention function embedded
(5) 2 MB buffer memory
(6) Power loading and power eject of a disc. Bare media loading
(7) MTBF: 100,000 POH
(8) Vertical and Horizontal installable
(9) Support LightScribe Direct Label Printing Technology

Supported disc formats
(1) Reads data in each DVD-ROM, DVD-R (Ver.1.0, Ver. 2.0 for Authoring)
(2) Reads and writes in each DVD-R (Ver. 2.0 for General), -R DL, -RW, DVD+R and +R DL (Double layer), +RW (3) Reads data in each CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I, Video CD, CD-Extra and CD-Text
(4) Reads data in Photo CD (Single and Multi session )
(5) Reads standard CD-DA
(6) Reads and writes CD-R discs conforming to “Orange Book Part 2”
(7) Reads and writes CD-RW discs conforming to “Orange Book Part 3”
(8) LightScribe DVD+R conforming to “ LightScribe Media Specification”
(9) LightScribe CD-R conforming to “ LightScribe Media Specification

1.3 Supported write method
(1) DVD-R: Disc at Once and Incremental Recording
(2) DVD-R DL : Sequential recording
(3) DVD-RW: Disc at Once, Incremental Recording and Restricted Overwrite
(4) DVD+R: Sequential Recording (5) DVD+R L: Sequential Recording
(6) DVD+RW: Random Write (7) CD-R/RW: Disc at Once, Session at Once, Track at Once and Packet Write
(8) LightScribe Label Printing Functions complying with “ LightScribe System Specification

Performance
(1) Average access time: DVD-ROM 140ms (1/3) CD-ROM 120 ms
(2) Write speed:
DVD+R 2.4x, 4x (CLV), 8x (ZCLV), 12x (PCAV), 16x (CAV) DVD+RW 2.4x, 4x (CLV), 8x (ZCLV)
DVD-R 2.x, 4x (CLV), 8x (ZCLV), 12x (PCAV), 16x (CAV)
DVD-RW 2x, 4x (CLV), 6x (ZCLV)
DVD+R DL 2.4x, 4x (CLV), 6x (ZCLV)
DVD-R DL 4x (CLV)
CD-R 10x, 16x (CLV), 24x (ZCLV) 32x, 40x (CAV)
CD-RW 4x, 10x, 16x (CLV), 24x, 32x (ZCLV)
(High Speed:8x, 10x . Ultra Speed> 16x)
(3) Read speed:
DVD-ROM 16x max DVD-Video(CSS Compliant Disc) 8x max. (Single/Dual layer) DVD-R/-RW/Double 10x/8x/8x max.
DVD+R/+RW/Double 10x/ 8x/8x max. CD-R/RW/ROM 40x/32x/40xmax. CD-DA (DAE) 40x max.
(4) Sustained Transfer rate: DVD-ROM 22.16 Mbytes/s (16x) max. CD-ROM 6,000 kB/s (40x) max.
(5) Burst Transfer rate: Ultra DMA Mode2 Multi word DMA Mode2, PIO Mode 4
(6) Multimedia MPC-3 compliant
(7) LightScribe Label Printing
Pixel Resolution 600 [DPI]
Track Resolution 500~1600 [TPI]
Linear Velocity 0.25 ~ 1.00 [m/sec]
Laser Power 30 ~ 60 [mW] as Objective emission light of 780nm wavelength
Color Monochrome
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

is not a "SuperMulti" drive.......
i think that is not GSA model...
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

It also doesn't write at 16x using PCAV. Didn't we already discuss about this drive ? =))
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It also doesn't write at 16x using PCAV. Didn't we already discuss about this drive ? =))
Yes and I also noted it doesn't have P-CAV 16x. Downgraded.
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

I was not waiting for this one.
Is this the new drive from LG?
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

no mention of DVD-RAM?

and an ugly drive too!
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boo c'mon lg!
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no mention of DVD-RAM?

and an ugly drive too!
The design seems unchanged from the earlier generations of LG Super Multi DVD drives.
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

The button looks different. I love the nice round button on the GSA-4163b, it feels great.
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

hmm, c'mmon folks, lets wait for some quality scan discs before commenting on this drive
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

Today I gave my 1620pro to a friend like a gift.
My 4163B suits me better.
And I too believe that must have RAM, otherwise I am not interested.
Mine also has that round button and as grey as it is, it looks a lot nicer.
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i am also not into LS. no dvd-ram is simply a down point
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

I'm still waiting for a drive to combine DVD+R DL, DVD-R DL, DVD-RAM and Lightscribe.
That will be my next drive.
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I'm still waiting for a drive to combine DVD+R DL, DVD-R DL, DVD-RAM and Lightscribe.
That will be my next drive.
I own a LG GSA-4166B and it supports ALL current DVD formats including those listed above. I am using Win XP Pro, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and an Nvidia based MOBO. The Drive was detected as UATA 66 (UDMA Mode 4) and both Windows and Nero 7 picked it up right away. The dirve is fast and quiet but the drive is not as eye pleasing as earlier LG models and the activity LED is to bright. The LED drowns out all of the other LEDs in my system. This is in the new generation of LG drives that are made in Korea and I think that the new 'plain' faces are a cost saving measure in this competetive price market. The only media that I have not been able to try is DVD-R DL, I just cannot find any -R DLs in my area. Lighrscribe works as it should and I didn't even need to install the included lightscribe engine, Nero 7 just detected the lightscribe drive and loaded the engine from the Nero 7 CD or from the Nero web site. I am not sure which because I had activity from both when the drive was first detected by Nero. Nero 6 Ultra Edition also supports lightscribe as a plug-in but I have been told that the user has to supply the Lightscribe engine for it to work. I have not been to confirm or deny this though. Have had no coasters yet after about 100 different burns of various media brands and job typs, so far so good.
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GSA-4166B has LS and costs less than HP LS drives in some places, but since LS is so slow and expensive... 4167B will have a bigger share.
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Good thought, Ken.
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GSA-4166B has LS and costs less than HP LS drives in some places, but since LS is so slow and expensive... 4167B will have a bigger share.
Yes, with LS is LG more expensive, like Benq in the past.

4166: 78,43 €
4167: 41,52

But Liteon is not much more expensive

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I think the GSA is a good burner, I did not make enough to give a more detailed result. The onlybad point is that it will not work with the Panasonic DVD RAM Driver. The drive itself supports DVD RAM. Tis problem is discussed in an other thread a few days ago...
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I think the GSA is a good burner, I did not make enough to give a more detailed result. The onlybad point is that it will not work with the Panasonic DVD RAM Driver. The drive itself supports DVD RAM. Tis problem is discussed in an other thread a few days ago...
Need no driver for my old 4082, I format the RAM to Fat32 in WindowsXP
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Re: LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

If I'm right there will be an updated version of this drive on the market too. With DVD-RAM support and 8x DVD+R DL writing. The rest is the same, no P-CAV writing
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If I'm right there will be an updated version of this drive on the market too. With DVD-RAM support and 8x DVD+R DL writing. The rest is the same, no P-CAV writing
Maybe LG changed the chipsetsbecause they need LS?
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Need no driver for my old 4082, I format the RAM to Fat32 in WindowsXP
But I use UDF....
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But I use UDF....
Read somewhere that the BHA-driver will work with NEC and LG-drives
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Read somewhere that the BHA-driver will work with NEC and LG-drives
That is correct, but the GSA 4166 and GSA 2266 will *NOT* work with the BHA Corp DVD RAM driver.

Check out this thread:
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That is correct, but the GSA 4166 and GSA 2266 will *NOT* work with the BHA Corp DVD RAM driver.

Check out this thread:
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So you have to wait for the update
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