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AnyDVD Discuss, why does the movie freez at the end at Copy Movie forum; using anydvd and clonedvd2 using verbatim disc sometimes the movie plays great all the way threw till the end then it starts to freeze up,im doing only movie back ups.but I have noticed that it seems to only happen if I chose preserve the menus.and sometimes when


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Old 26-01-2007   #1 (permalink)
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why does the movie freez at the end

using anydvd and clonedvd2 using verbatim disc sometimes the movie plays great all the way threw till the end then it starts to freeze up,im doing only movie back ups.but I have noticed that it seems to only happen if I chose preserve the menus.and sometimes when I choose to preserver the menus it works okay so you got me,am I suppose to be doing anything different when I click on preserve menus.
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Besides using known proven quality DVD Media (Verbatim) it is also important that your DVD Burner also has the newest most current up to date Firmware available installed to insure optimal burning quality. Suggest checking to ensure your undisclosed DVD Burner has current up to date Firmware.

Also if you are using +R DVD Media that you Book Type Bit Set +R Media to DVD-ROM to improve playback compatibility in some DVD playback devises.

Also ensure that you are using the most current up to date Versions of AnyDVD/ CloneDVD.

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how do I do this +R DVD Media that you Book Type Bit Set +R Media to DVD-ROM
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using anydvd and clonedvd2 using verbatim disc sometimes the movie plays great all the way threw till the end then it starts to freeze up,im doing only movie back ups.but I have noticed that it seems to only happen if I chose preserve the menus.and sometimes when I choose to preserver the menus it works okay so you got me,am I suppose to be doing anything different when I click on preserve menus.

Burn quality at the end of discs are notoriously bad, especially if you don't have a good burner and are using bad media. Verbatim (CMC) is good, but Verbatim made in India (and Verbatim made my Prodisc) tend to be slightly inferior. You may want to consider burning at a slightly slower speed than you have been (especially if you've been burning at 16x or higher).

As Belooken stated you should probably also ensure you are using the latest firmware for your burner (this is related to getting poor burn quality at the end of discs, since some firmware updates improve burn quality and compatibility with certain blanks).

You aren't having an issue with Anydvd; you're having an issue with burn quality or the dvd player you are watching your movies on (or possibly both).
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Burn quality at the end of discs are notoriously bad, especially if you don't have a good burner and are using bad media. Verbatim (CMC) is good, but Verbatim made in India (and Verbatim made my Prodisc) tend to be slightly inferior. You may want to consider burning at a slightly slower speed than you have been (especially if you've been burning at 16x or higher).

As Belooken stated you should probably also ensure you are using the latest firmware for your burner (this is related to getting poor burn quality at the end of discs, since some firmware updates improve burn quality and compatibility with certain blanks).
I thought it was a myth that burning at a slower speed increased quality.
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I thought it was a myth that burning at a slower speed increased quality.
Not necessarily

LG 4163 burners, for example, produced a lot of jitter, depending on the media (and firmware) used, when burning at 16x. I just mention the LG 4163 because it was a big deal, at the time, for a 16x p-cav burner (pretty quick burns). The tradeoff was high jitter levels, initially. This is one reason why I never get too excited about faster and faster burn speeds. If the burn quality is still good at 18x and 20x, then fine. But if the burn quality sucks, then who cares how fast people with 20x burners are burning?

Also, many burners seem (according to scans) to produce better burns on Verbatim +R DL media at 4x rather than 8x or higher.

It's possible to burn too fast and too slow depending on the burner and media used.

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Try burning at 4x and see what happens. Your burner may support a higher speed but faster is not always better. I have found that burning at higher speeds will cause playback issues.
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im using PIONEER DVR-111DBK with 1.29 firmware ps I have been burning at max speed.my burner will do 16x so ill drop it down to 8x if you guys think that will help
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im using PIONEER DVR-111DBK with 1.29 firmware ps I have been burning at max speed.my burner will do 16x so ill drop it down to 8x if you guys think that will help
You may not have to drop it down that far.

Another possibility is you're just coming across a few bad blanks. It happens.
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so basically burning at max speed could be causing it to freez up at the end of the movies.
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so basically burning at max speed could be causing it to freez up at the end of the movies.
Possibly, but doubtful. I burn at max speed all the time and have never had any problem like this.
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so basically burning at max speed could be causing it to freez up at the end of the movies.
Yes, depending on the blanks being used.

CMC Vebatim = good
Prodisc Verbatim < CMC Verbatim
Moser Baer Verbatim (India) < Prodisc Verbatim

So hopefully you have CMC Verbatim.

Your issue is a burn quality issue (this can be caused by your drive, media, burn speed, or any combination thereof) or a compatibility issue with your standalone dvd player.

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mine says made in taiwan
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http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...50&postcount=1

There are other methods to tell including hub serial numbers.

"16x are as good as 8x, but usually only when burned at 12x
the + is better than the -, but they're both supposedly good.
Media ID:
Verbatim 8x -R = MCC 02RG20
Verbatim 16x +R = MCC-004-00
Verbatim -R (16x?) = MCC 03RG20"

I guess DD is of the opinion Moser Baer Verbatim is better than Prodisc Verbatim (I do not share that opinion, but he does test more media than I do on a wider variety of burners). Regardless, he obviosly feels (as I do) that CMC Verbatim is better than either.

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Kyrunner -

Suggest using the Buffalo series 8 Firmware (8.29) that has Auto Bit Setting for +R Media for your Pioneer DVR-111D. Auto Bit Setting means that anytime you burn to +R Media that automatically your Pioneer DVR-111D Burner burns the +R Media to DVD-ROM Book Type which improves playback compatibility in some DVD playback devises. There is no user intervention required with Auto Bit Setting Firmware to burn +R Media to DVD-ROM Book Type.

The below Web Link details how to Flash your Pioneer DVR-111D to DVR-111l with Buffalo 8.29 Firmware ->

http://forums.speedlabs.org/index.php?topic=1082.0

I have two Pioneer DVR-111D flashed to DVR-111L Buffalo 8.29 Firmware and using Taiyo Yuden TYG02 Media have never had any poor quality burns.

Also it is a good idea to ensure that you don’t have excessive Multi Tasking operations active during the DVD copying process. It is possible that background Multi Tasking operations could effect the quality of your burns. To ensure that all background Multi Tasking operations are in fact curtailed check that ALL unnecessary programs are not automatically loaded during Window Startup. To check this suggest viewing the below Web Link that details how to use MSCONFIG to configure Windows Startup to load only necessary items. You will be surprised at all the unnecessary Memory and Resource wasting items that are automatically loaded during Windows Startup. Suggest when visiting the below referenced Web Link to also check out Paul "PacMan" Collins' huge "Startup Applications" list (http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php)

http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/

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mine says made in taiwan
Not sure if you have stated if you are using + or - Verbatim. But, I second Webslinger's post......
If you are using -16x (which is MCC ORG20), they tend to give big pie errors at the outer edge of the disk. I have had the same problem you have described, with skipping and freezing at the end of the movie. (even at lower burn speeds, but more pronounced at higher speeds, as others have stated.)
If Verbatim MIT is readily available to you, the 16x MIT (which should be MCC 004) book typed to -Rom (Nero CD DVD Speed, a freeware program will do this for you), should give you better results. (use 12x as was suggested)
If you feel a connection between movie only, and movie with backups, I believe this is only because of file size. (movie with menus gets you to the outer edge of disk)
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I have toast 8 witch I can drag my video -ts folder to dvd-rom udf and burn it like that.I have been doing some test just burned a back up at 16x got to the end of the movie frezing up and skipping burn it again at 8x no problems so Im thinking it has to do with the burn speeds.
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I have toast 8 witch I can drag my video -ts folder to dvd-rom udf and burn it like that.I have been doing some test just burned a back up at 16x got to the end of the movie frezing up and skipping burn it again at 8x no problems so Im thinking it has to do with the burn speeds.
What media are you using?
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I have toast 8 witch I can drag my video -ts folder to dvd-rom udf and burn it like that.I have been doing some test just burned a back up at 16x got to the end of the movie frezing up and skipping burn it again at 8x no problems so Im thinking it has to do with the burn speeds.
12x should work fine, but don't use packet writing software.
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what is packet writing software?
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what is packet writing software?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_writing

In other words, don't drag and drop files to your burner (or otherwise use it as you would a floppy drive).
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Im using verbatim dvd+r 16x lightscribe made in Taiwan
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Kyrunner -

Providing amplifying information concerning Forum Member Webslinger #19 posting. If you have a Packet Writing software program installed on your computer it is suggested to prevent any possible conflict error problems not only not to use the program but also to remove it from the computer. Packet Writing software programs have a well documented history to be over invasive and can cause problems with the proper functioning of other Software Burning programs and the AnyDVD software program.

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okay I update my pioneer 111dbk to the 8.29.my next question is with thei firmware can it do lightscribe or lableflash and if it can what do I need to do that with do I need to go buy lightscibe disc or lableflash disc
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