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Old 08-07-2005   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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What does the AnyDVD information window show for such a DVD?
Summary for drive E:
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-r (version 5), Layers: 1

Video DVD (or CD) label: BABY_SITTER
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is region free.

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!
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Old 08-07-2005   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

How about you try... backing up the ORIGINAL DVD?

Let me try to sum this up for you:

You: I used a retrograde program that sucked two years ago and hasn't been produced since. The illegal copy I made with that program... fruits out AnyDVD.

Here's my response. THROW AWAY THAT COPY, and work from the original. If you no longer HAVE the original, why are we having this discussion?
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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How about you try... backing up the ORIGINAL DVD?

Let me try to sum this up for you:

You: I used a retrograde program that sucked two years ago and hasn't been produced since. The illegal copy I made with that program... fruits out AnyDVD.

Here's my response. THROW AWAY THAT COPY, and work from the original. If you no longer HAVE the original, why are we having this discussion?
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

this is to let ye guys know,any dvd made with dvdxcopy a copy can be made with roxio easy creator-6...disk to disk.with out a problem..i always make a back up for a second player for our bed room player..
note:creator will also copy a clonedvd made disk...
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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this is to let ye guys know,any dvd made with dvdxcopy a copy can be made with roxio easy creator-6...disk to disk.with out a problem..i always make a back up for a second player for our bed room player..
note:creator will also copy a clonedvd made disk...
CloneDVD will do the same (3rd button... write existing data), CloneCD can be used as well.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

ANY program can copy a DVDXCopy-made-disc.

What he's asking is how to de-Macrovision it. That involves setting a single bit. AnyDVD is, apparently, not liking to deprotect an already-mangled disc. So he should use the ORIGINAL.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

AnyDVD removes Macrovision when it rips from the disc, right? Then DVD X Copy Adds it back in when it transcodes it. So, as long as he's using DVD X Copy. No matter what program rips it from the disc. DVD X Copy will add it back in after it's been striped away.

The answer is to stop using DVD X Copy. AnyDVD did it's job. You need to use CloneDVD, or another transcoding/burning application.

Ollie- Earlier you asked why would DVD X Copy add Macrovision? 321 Studios thought it would help shield them from prosecution if they made it so people cannot copy the copies.
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Ollie- Earlier you asked why would DVD X Copy add Macrovision? 321 Studios thought it would help shield them from prosecution if they made it so people cannot copy the copies.
Well, and that ultimately killed them, as they didn't pay Macrovision license fees.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

Someone mentioned earlier in this thread to use DVD Decrypter. Had that been done this thread would have ended right there because it would've worked. It's what I used to successfully rip that same movie with. If you want to do it on the fly then I'd recommend using AnyDVD.


I believe that DVD X Copy backs up the movie but leaves its copy protections in tact and adds its own.
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Someone mentioned earlier in this thread to use DVD Decrypter. Had that been done this thread would have ended right there because it would've worked.
Thanks for taking the time to notice.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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Someone mentioned earlier in this thread to use DVD Decrypter. Had that been done this thread would have ended right there because it would've worked. It's what I used to successfully rip that same movie with. If you want to do it on the fly then I'd recommend using AnyDVD.
Using drag and drop in Explorer with AnyDVD running would have quite the same effect. Only because AnyDVD is missing the "rip now!" button doesn't mean you can't use it to copy a DVD to your harddrive.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

I just read through some of the DVD X Copy forums. DVD X Copy (DXC) removes CSS, does not say it adds Macrovision, but it does say Macrovision is present on burned discs.
EDIT- My guess is if there was any statements definitively stating that DXC adds Macrovision, they were removed to protect the company.
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Well, and that ultimately killed them, as they didn't pay Macrovision license fees.
So, do you think they would have been safer if they hadn't added Macrovision and just flat out removed it? Not touching it would have probably been best.

DXC PRE-ripper-free versions did not copy DXC's Copies.
Ripper-free versions don't add the warning screen and apparently they can copy DXC's already copied discs.

Not one person posted [on DXC's forums] the correct composition of the name AnyDVD.
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4.0.4.15 is the only version that does not have the dvd copy screen and can copy a copy, but it has not ripper so you have to use a ripper program like ANYdvd
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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Not one person posted [on DXC's forums] the correct composition of the name AnyDVD.

It should not matter which way the name is presented,as since i allowed any dvd to be posted at the dvdxcopy/afterdawn form i am sure most know what we are talking about with 1000's of downloads of any dvd being sold.

AnyDVD OR ANYDVD,all that matters is the download http is correct so that AnyDVD can be bought.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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Not one person posted [on DXC's forums] the correct composition of the name AnyDVD.

1000 pardons....I never knew there was a knock of version of AnyDVD, that would confuse people if I did not capitalize it right.

And I agree with my Chief Mod, does it really matter as long as they are getting the link to the best ripper there is?? .... no it doesn't.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

I know CSS has been around forever, but when did macrovision protection start? I used DVD X Copy up until about a year ago and any disc I copied with X Copy I can just throw into my computer and copy using Nero or any other burning software without having anydvd enabled. So I'm thinking that macrovision is fairly new (within a year or so). I thought DVD X Copy got shut down because they were allowing people to copy CSS encrypted movies, I didn't hear anything about macrovision being involved. Maybe I've just been living under a rock for the last year or so??
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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I know CSS has been around forever, but when did macrovision protection start? I used DVD X Copy up until about a year ago and any disc I copied with X Copy I can just throw into my computer and copy using Nero or any other burning software without having anydvd enabled. So I'm thinking that macrovision is fairly new (within a year or so). I thought DVD X Copy got shut down because they were allowing people to copy CSS encrypted movies, I didn't hear anything about macrovision being involved. Maybe I've just been living under a rock for the last year or so??
Most programs ignore APS ("Macrovision"). This is quite dangerous, because Macrovision likes to sue anybody who can't climb the tree fast enough. Ask 321 Studios or Lightning UK!.
CloneDVD will abort, if it finds APS enabled in the data stream.
On a "physical" 1:1 copy (e.g., Nero, not Recode, CloneCD) APS is copied of course.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

I see...I think. Macrovision is protection that most copying programs can get around but don't pull off the copy, then they get sued by Macrovision? That sounds like a setup to me.
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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It should not matter which way the name is presented
My apologies ireland and baldbear, my statement was just an observation. I had no malice intended in that statement.

baldbear, the quote from you I had included was actually meant to add a reference to the functions of DVD X Copy and not to show the capitalization of AnyDVD. Well, maybe 90/10(%).

Personally, I found it annoying while reading through the forums. But again, that is my issue. I did really like the fact that AnyDVD was plugged as much as it was. Hopefully Slysoft appreciates that as well.

Not to rub salt in a healing wound.... Would you like to comment on the conversation about Macrovision?

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I see...I think. Macrovision is protection that most copying programs can get around but don't pull off the copy, then they get sued by Macrovision? That sounds like a setup to me.
Macrovision is just a bit setting, either yes or no. So yea, it's up to the copy software maker to look for that and act acordingly. CSS would make it impossible to copy regardless (if not delt with).
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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

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Personally, I found it annoying while reading through the forums. But again, that is my issue. I did really like the fact that AnyDVD was plugged as much as it was. Hopefully Slysoft appreciates that as well.
To be fair to Slysoft, I don't think they plug their products at all on these forums - it is us 'converted' forum members who do. I have tried several programs to backup my DVD's (with small children in the house, with sticky things on their fingers, backing up is a necessity!!) and if I have said it once I have said it a thousand times, I have been so impressed with the techincal support that Elby/Slysoft give - to the point where I flagged a problem on a Saturday afternoon and had an update out within about 2 hours. So please don't blame Slysoft for 'us' users fanatisism!!!

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Re: Unable to remove MacroVision from Adventures in Babysitting.

thanks for the help guys. I really appreciate it
CloneDVD and AnyDVD together is the way to go!!
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