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AnyDVD Discuss, Suggestion at Copy Movie forum; Fake but DVD-compatible data will be given to DVD copy software when copying bad sectors of ARccOS protected DVDs, so that DVD copy software will accept it as normal data without problem. No other program do it this way! Can anydvd do that?


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Old 14-06-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Fake but DVD-compatible data will be given to DVD copy software when copying bad sectors of ARccOS protected DVDs, so that DVD copy software will accept it as normal data without problem. No other program do it this way!
Can anydvd do that?
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Fake but DVD-compatible data will be given to DVD copy software when copying bad sectors of ARccOS protected DVDs, so that DVD copy software will accept it as normal data without problem.
Which copy software requires this?
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dvd region free + css 5.90 can do this
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dvd region free + css 5.90 can do this
And? I mean, what is the benefit?
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I don't know.
I think nobody need this option.
I hope this is good for new versions of the sony ARccOS
protection. Maybe anydvd need'nt updated so often.
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I don't know.
Me neither.

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I think nobody need this option.
I had the same thought.
The original disc has unreadable sectors. Nobody can read those (hence the name "unreadable"). Nobody should need to read those. I don't think it matters, what data is returned if someone does read them. Dummy (invalid zero filled) sectors is IMHO more "honest" than returning something looking "valid". Although it doesn't hurt. IMHO it is just completely irrelevant.

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I hope this is good for new versions of the sony ARccOS
protection. Maybe anydvd need'nt updated so often.
No. Think about it... how the unreadable sectors are filled has nothing to do how the unreadable sectors are detected.
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Unreadable Sectors

Since this whole "copy protection" scheme seems to be actually predicated on making sections of the dvd "unreadable" - doesn't that make the product outside of dvd standards, of exceptionally poor quality, and definitely returnable as defective?
At least that is my take on it - and how I intend to behave.
I buy fewer cd's and dvd's than ever these days - not because of copying - but because of paranoid manufacturers and their misguided copy protection schemes resulting in unreliable and poor quality products that I cannot use whenever and wherever I choose.
I only buy those titles that I have time to test immediately to determine that they are not "defective", so I can return them if they do not meet my standards for quality and usability and portability.

I can't wait to see what kind of nonsense macrovision tries to inflict on the unsuspecting public consumer. If all this serves to drive sales down, instead of up, maybe they will redirect their resources into putting out a better, more reasonably priced product that folks will want to purchase.
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I Couldn't Agree More... Dvd's Are Way Too Damn Much Money In Retail Stores In The Us. If They Made Them All $9.99 And Under, Their Sales Would See A Giant Rise. Thats Why I Only Buy On Sale Dvd's... Its The Smart, Cost-effective, Way To Go. :d
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Hi you two,

i´d like to join this discussion, hope thats okay...actually there are two facts arround protections aren´t there, a company has to deal with?!

a) the software and hardware player has to play the media without problems
b) the firmware/software must be the !only player to overcome these protections

suggestion...so what about a internet browser? It saves data to cache...transform it to a player idea and data can be saved easily or am i mistaking?
But of course it needs to play the whole dvd...thats the pain on this idea. Data is decrypted while playing so theres none protection to save in cache.

On the otherhand we can be lucky that these protection cost these companys so much money so i doubt there will be released so many dvds with heavier protections...

Related to bad sectors...i was thinking the last night on an other idea. Tried copying a encrypted dvd with some copy tools (without decrypting routines) alc and game-cloner and some more. They started with hundreds of bad sectors! How comes i can read and copy the dvd content even if it is encrypted to hdd but i can´t copy the whole dvd? Thats strange...

One question:
If theres a copy program which copys the whole encrypted dvd as it is, will
there be a diffrence related to Arccos protected bad sectors or does these sectors only appear while decrypting the dvd?

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