new protection?

-> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381601/

tried with anydvd & dvddecypter/vobblanker (all newest afaik) on a lg-4120b:

any suggestions? thanks!

DVDFab Decrypter works! :)

-> http://www.dvdidle.com/en/free.htm

Which country? Can you send IFOs to SlySoft and elby?

it's a german video store rental version. ifos are here:

http://www.keepmyfile.com/download/77f05155246

rar-pass: club.cdfreaks.com

ok?

oh... the file "VTS_2_1.VOB" is making trouble (dvddecrypter/vobblanker)! DVDFab Decrypter works...

yes i've been noticing this a lot - anydvd fails where dvdfab manages it every time - does dvdfab have some inside info on arcoss or something as they don't seem to have to update the software frequently like anydvd.....

not that i'm saying anydvd is bad, oh but it still doesn't manage "closer r2", the rental edition anyway....

Thank you. An update will be available in a few hours.

Send us IFO files, or provide a download link like forum member schwampel did. We cannot fix problems unless we know them. If we know about a problem, we usually fix it in a few hours.
BTW, which r2 version of "Closer" (Country)?

The method which AnyDVD uses to remove Arccos is very different from the method employed by DVD Decrypter as well as DVDFab Decrypter.

Always has been.

There are times when AnyDVD can go quite a while without an update, and then times when the others can. There are still only one or two titles that DVD Decrypter can't rip, for example. But soon enough that will change.

You're making me curious... Lightning UK resurrection?

No, Tru, you're reading what he said wrong. The OTHER direction...soon more titles will not work with DVD Decryptor, not that DVD Decryptor will work with more titles.

Bingo. Whatever Sony has been doing to Arccos lately, it hasn't been having as great an effect on the method that DVD Decrypter (and, ostensibly, DVD Fab Decrypter) uses to bypass it. AnyDVD, on the other hand, has needed several updates.

I predict that in the coming fall season, we will see dozens of new discs which DVD Decrypter can't read, but which AnyDVD deals with in stride.

Just my $0.02 though.

I tend to agree. However, there's only so much they can do for protection before completely breaking the DVD spec and making the disc unplayable. My personal opinion on RipGuard and why it's been delayed(besides the obvious that it does work very well and no studio wants to buy it) is that they may have pushed it too far and are having compatibility problems. I have seen nothing to suggest that so it's pure speculation on my part, but, it's a fine balance between what they can and can't do. DVD Decryptor remains a remarkable piece of software even without the updates. But I suspect you're probably right that in the coming months more and more titles won't work with it. Fortunately for us in this forum, we have AnyDVD. And also fortunate is the fact that Slysoft is insanely good at updating it when new protections are discovered.

There is a simple reason: The Arccos detection in AnyDVD is very conservative. There are many plausability checks, if a part of the DVD is really never played (a protection), or if it is probably played as part of some interactive disc.
From Arccos version to Arccos version the detection will just be a little tweaked and will work more reliable. For the latest update (Slipstream R2, German) I only needed to tweak one constant.
We have done it this way on purpose: It is much better, if a disc cannot be copied because of a new Arccos version, than having a copy which is defective. Detecting a "wrong" copy protection would be fatal, because you could make a copy without getting any error, but it wouldn't be playable.
If AnyDVD fails to make a copy, people can send us .ifo files, and we can tune the parser in very little time.
With this method, AnyDVD "learns" to beat Arccos better from update to update.

Slysoft Programs Owns all others.

STFU and get some programming skills and let's see you make a better program. Slysoft is doing us a favor and letting us create our own back-ups. At least they still update when a problem is discovered.

Go Slysoft!

James, please thank the AnyDVD development team for us, as there's been the new AnyDVD version out since yesterday. That's quick work.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Slysoft does an amazing job updating their software and certainly deserve our praise. However, they aren't doing us a favor, they're selling us a useful product. And I for one have no problem with that at all. DVD Decryptor and DVD Fab Decryptor developers chose to release those tools for free, and that's kuel. They do things differently than AnyDVD, but, that doesn't mean their approach is any less valid. I personally like the Slysoft/AnyDVD approach to the problem but there are always more than one way to attack a problem. I don't think Gurm was implying that those other programs were necessarily better because they "seem" to require less updates overall. Besides I think James' explanation for the many updates to AnyDVD is a very valid one and few people probably appreciated until it was explained. Again, they take a different approach and as long as they're willing to keep doing what they're doing, I don't think anyone who has paid for AnyDVD will have a problem with the number of updates. In fact, to me, that's a sign of excellent support. But they ARE selling a product so you can have SOME expectation of support to go along with that.

Can a debug/generic arcoss protection bypass be added?

I'll bet there are some people that would like to attempt to copy a disc that has a new arcoss variant without waiting for an update.

Or can you put in some sort of probability meter? "70% chance of a new arcoss protection, would you like to attempt to bypass?"

Pakratus, I think that according to James's explanation AnyDVD purposely DOESN'T have this, because they don't ever want to make a bad copy. I personally am fine with this approach.

DVD Decrypter has always been a bit more heavy-handed than AnyDVD, and that was fine while LUK! was still doing updates, but now that he's not... well, I like this way.

Yes, I understood that. I'm just wondering, I think some people here would use it if it were added. Maybe if it was 1) a registry hack 2) the probabilty meter/question. With the question, make it known that bad copies can be a possibility.

Overall I guess my point is, why release new versions of AnyDVD with every other new movie.

Maybe release definitions like anti-virus programs.