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Old 29-01-2007   #51 (permalink)
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

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I don't have this drive, so I can't check.
What would it take to get this drive to you for troubleshooting? Could one be donated to you?
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Webslinger, what you are saying may be true, but it's [b]not applicable to this issue
Based on what? Opterondo is using a NEC dvd-rom drive and managed to import fine using his burner. Granted, I can't be positive this is the same issue, but it's consistent with the problem I'm describing.
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Just to be clear, I have a drive that works when the Liteon fails. I'm not trying to get help for me personally. I see a lot of posts from people who have a problem with the read failing between 30 and 60 percent, and I see a lot of replies telling them it's their drive, it's their disc, it's their PC, etc., when in fact it isn't. I bought AnyDVD and am a user and supporter of it, and want to see this problem solved, and the way it's currently going, it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
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Based on what?
BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROBLEM OCCURS WHEN NERO 7.X IS USED, OR CLONE CD, OR CLONE DVD, ETC.

Holy cow.
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I see a lot of posts from people who have a problem with the read failing between 30 and 60 percent, and I see a lot of replies telling them it's their drive, it's their disc, it's their PC, etc., when in fact it isn't.
Around 50% is one thing . . . at 30% the problem you're describing isn't likely.
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BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROBLEM OCCURS WHEN NERO 7.X IS USED, OR CLONE CD, OR CLONE DVD, ETC.

Holy cow.
Uhhh, Opterondo is using Nero 7.x, Clonecd, or Clonedvd2? Where did you get that information?

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...78&postcount=1

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I'm using Anydvd 6.1.1.4 and NERO 6.6.0.8
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Around 50% is one thing . . . at 30% the problem you're describing isn't likely.
It's happening at the layer break. The layer break is not always at 50%.
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It's happening at the layer break. The layer break is not always at 50%.
Yes, but at 30% it's unlikely.
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Uhhh, Opterondo is using Nero 7.x, Clonecd, or Clonedvd2? Where did you get that information?

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...78&postcount=1
You just said he's using Nero 7.x, then quoted and linked to a post saying he's using 6.x.


Continuing to argue with you is pointless.

OK, you win. You're right. There's no problem with AnyDVD and certain drives and/or firmware. It's drives dying, bad discs, compatibility issues, or something else. A DVD has never been mastered with a layer break at 30%.
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You just said he's using Nero 7.x, then quoted and linked to a post saying he's using 6.x.
No. I asked a question. In fact, I asked two questions. You have answered neither. Notice the question marks. He or she is using 6.x. He or she is not using Nero 7.x

You're using Nero 7.x

You may very well be having a compatibility issue with your specific drive and Anydvd. I sincerely hope James or someone at Slysoft gets his or her hands on one of those newer Lite-on burners at some point. I hope your problem gets solved, honestly.

You are not Opterondo. You are not even using the same version of the same program. You're not using the same drives, even. Consequently, I fail to understand why you jump into Opterondo's thread and start attacking me.



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There's no problem with AnyDVD and certain drives and/or firmware.
I never stated this.

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It's drives dying, bad discs, compatibility issues, or something else.
It depends on the problem.

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A DVD has never been mastered with a layer break at 30%.
I also never stated this.

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You are not Opterondo. You are not even using the same version of the same programs. You're not using the same drives, even.
This is not Opterondo's thread. It's DVDGod's thread. Why are you trying to make this thread about Opeterondo's thread?

I'm also not exactly sure what your two questions were, specifically. Could you rephrase them please?

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I am having trouble with this one as well. It gets to 50% and then ERROR! Cyclic redundancy check! There are no scratches on the cd, it's perfectly clean, I even cleaned it just to make sure. Has anyone found a solution for backing up this movie yet?
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I've tried to copy the movie using anydvd and clonedvd2, both the newest versions, and am still unable to copy. Also used anydvd with dvdshrink. I will try putting dvd in a different drive and try again as someone mentioned someplace that might make a difference.
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So...is there anyone that has had the problem of getting it to copy because it was receiving a cyclic redundancy check at 50% but has since found a solution around it?
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*** UPDATE ***
Ok Just as some had suggested, I put the dvd into a different drive and was then able to copy no problem. Hopefully this will be the fix for others having the same problem. I used Anydvd latest version, and dvdshrink. Thanks everyone for the help!
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This is not Opterondo's thread. It's DVDGod's thread. Why are you trying to make this thread about Opeterondo's thread?
I'm not. I replied originally to Opterondo's post in this thread.

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I'm also not exactly sure what your two questions were, specifically. Could you rephrase them please?
Sure. Opterondo is using Nero 6.x. At no time does he or she state using Clonedvd2, Clonecd, or Nero 7.x. So where are you getting information Opterondo is using Nero 7.x--much less, any of these other programs?

Oh, that's right: nowhere.

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Read again first:
Here's a refresher for your memory:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=42

It's clear that I am not responding to weso18.
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

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You just said he's using Nero 7.x, then quoted and linked to a post saying he's using 6.x.
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No.
I'm not sure what you are trying to do here? Are you deliberately trying to get me to "crack" or something?




In Opterondo's thread I replied,
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I will admit that in this particular case, the Nero 6.x + Recode issue may be what's happening, but it's also likely that it may be the issue that's cropping up recently with DVD reads failing. I personally don't believe either explanation at this point is definitive.
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I'm not sure what you are trying to do here? Are you deliberately trying to get me to "crack" or something?

Do you see the question marks? There are not statements; these are questions. I suppose sticking a confused emoticon at the end would have made that clearer. You do know what a question mark is, right?

"Uhhh, Santa Claus wears a blue suit? Where did you get that information?"

If someone said this outloud to you, would you believe he or she is stating that Santa Claus wears a blue suit? Probably not. Chances are you or someone else just recently made that claim, and the person responding is skeptical. The person responding, in this case, would be me.
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Webslinger, your attitude is both malicious and inappropriate. It is getting us nowhere. What prompts you to behave this way?

Take a look at Opterondo's thread, and his replies in this thread. Nowhere does he state that he's using Nero Recode. Nowhere. He says his read fails in one drive, then succeeds in the other.

I never said Opterondo is using Nero 7.x. You did. I posted the screenshot as proof. You also said he's using Nero Recode, which he never said he was using, anywhere. I said that in light of all of the recent posts from people who are having read problems only with certain drives, this appears to likely be another case. You replied saying there is an issue with Nero Recode and Nero 6.x, and that's what Opterondo's problem is. If Opterondo is using Nero Recode, it's possible that that may be the case, but it's also just as likely it could be the recent read issues that have cropped up. I think it's more likely to be the latter, since Opterondo did not say anywhere that he is using Nero Recode.
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Where did you get that information?
When I said "BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROBLEM OCCURS WHEN NERO 7.X IS USED, OR CLONE CD, OR CLONE DVD, ETC.", I never said that Opterondo was using these programs. What I meant was that when I myself use these programs, I have the same problem as Opterondo in my Liteon 20A1H drive: the read fails. It fails doing a 1:1 "Copy DVD" in Nero, it fails in CloneDVD, and it fails in Clone CD. I've tried them all. All is successful in a Panasonic LF-D200.

What I see you projecting is that Opterondo's problem is a Nero 6.x problem, one that only occurs when using Nero Recode. Opterondo said he was doing a 1:1 rip with Nero. I personally believe the problem he's having is more likely to do with the recent read issues, not the Nero 6.x + Recode issue.
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

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Webslinger, your attitude is both malicious and inappropriate.
I'm sorry you feel that way.


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Take a look at Opterondo's thread, and his replies in this thread.
It's apparent I have already.

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Nowhere does he state that he's using Nero Recode. Nowhere.
In lieu of the fact he or she hasn't mentioned a transcoder, encoder or using DL media, it seems reasonable to believe Opterondo is probably using Recode. But Opterondo may, of course, not be.

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He says his read fails in one drive, then succeeds in the other.
Yes. It works in his burner, in fact. This is consistent with the problem in Recode found in Nero 6.x versions.

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I never said Opterondo is using Nero 7.x.

Well then, mentioning Nero 7.x (and these other programs) to me was completely pointless, as it had absolutely nothing to do with my post you originally responded to in this thread.

Let me refresh your memory concerning what you were responding to, and what you did say when you mentioned "Nero 7.X":

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Based on what? Opterondo is using a NEC dvd-rom drive and managed to import fine using his burner. Granted, I can't be positive this is the same issue, but it's consistent with the problem I'm describing.
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BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROBLEM OCCURS WHEN NERO 7.X IS USED, OR CLONE CD, OR CLONE DVD, ETC.

Holy cow.



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You replied saying there is an issue with Nero Recode and Nero 6.x, and that's what Opterondo's problem is.
No. I stated there's a problem with Nero Recode found in Nero 6.x versions. And I suggested this might be related. At no time did I state, unreservedly, this was the exact same issue. However, it seems to me as though it could be.

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I think it's more likely to be the latter, since Opterondo did not say anywhere that he is using Nero Recode.
What seems more likely to you? You believe he is using Nero Burning Rom?

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I'm done arguing. I made my point. So did Slysoft.

James, if I can help in getting you a Liteon 20A1H drive for troubleshooting purposes, please let me know via PM. I'd like to help solve this problem for everyone however, not just me.
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

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I'm done arguing. I made my point. So did Slysoft.
James has not explicitly supported your position concerning Opterondo. So mentioning "Slysoft" here has no bearing on this discussion.

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James, if I can help in getting you a Liteon 20A1H drive for troubleshooting purposes, please let me know via PM. I'd like to help solve this problem for everyone however, not just me.
Well, if everyone were using a Liteon 20A1H then I suppose everyone's problem might be solved if Slysoft received one to test. But since everyone isn't . . .
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I have the same problem as Opterondo in my Liteon 20A1H drive: the read fails.
Opterodo is not using a Liteon 20A1h. He's using a nec dv-5700b, which is a dvd-rom drive.

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It fails doing a 1:1 "Copy DVD" in Nero
After re-reading Opterondo's posts, it has become more evident to me that he or she may not be using Nero Recode. I did not read carefully enough (I missed the "NRG image" description given).

However, "DISK 1 Movie ripped fine" presumably using a nec dv-5700b dvd-rom drive. So, it's possible that either upgrading to 6.1.1.4 (see http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=208145 ) or using his or her Plextor burner (which may possibly be a better reader in this case) fixed Opterondo's problem.

Regardless, all evidence presented points heavily in favour of the fact you do not have the same problem as Opterondo.

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What I see you projecting is that Opterondo's problem is a Nero 6.x problem, one that only occurs when using Nero Recode. Opterondo said he was doing a 1:1 rip with Nero. I personally believe the problem he's having is more likely to do with the recent read issues, not the Nero 6.x + Recode issue.
No. Based on what I've read your Lite-on is failing constantly, whereas Operatando's nec dv-5700b isn't. No. There's no way this is the same issue.

The reason why I posted this issue concerning Nero Recode (in Nero 6.x) having problems when not using a burner (in systems with two optical drives or more) is to help people who might be having problems importing into Recode when not using a burner to do so. My mentioning this has nothing to do with trying to filter blame away from Anydvd; I find the suggestion insulting.

And again, for what it's worth, I hope your problem is resolved. You have my apologies if I offended you, but I still feel (strongly) your initial attack against me is completely unfounded.

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My Liteon is not failing constantly. In many cases it reads dual layer originals with no problems. In other cases it fails at around 50%. It consistently fails with these specific titles.

It doesn't appear to be a problem with protections other than CSS. R1 Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning is one of the titles that fails at 50% in my Liteon 20A1H. AnyDVD only detects CSS protection on this disc.

It also doesn't appear to be a problem specific to applications; it fails whether Nero, CloneDVD, CloneCD, Alcohol, or even drag-and-drop are used to read the original.

I'd be willing to donate a drive to Slysoft if it will help them work towards fixing this problem for everybody. As you correctly mention, not everyone is using a 20A1H drive, so that might not be the best model to donate.

My Panasonic LF-D200 drive works in all cases where the Liteon 20A1H fails. This appears to be consistent with other reports... failure occurs in one drive, but works fine in another of a different make and/or model.

So, I do have a workaround, and am not really after "help" just for me. It worries me that if this is a problem that can't be fixed for people, it makes me wonder if other hardware-specific aspects of AnyDVD are going to start to fail in future versions, and only delayed (or worse yet no) fixes will be available.
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

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My Liteon is not failing constantly. In many cases it reads dual layer originals with no problems.
I'm getting the impression that some Liteon 18x and 20x burners are failing constantly with Anydvd:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...64&postcount=9

But I could be wrong

Anyway, I hope your problem is solved.
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

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I'm getting the impression that some Liteon 18x and 20x burners are failing constantly with Anydvd:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...64&postcount=9

But I could be wrong

Anyway, I hope your problem is solved.
sure thing- have both of these drives and neither(along with hp 940i) will work with anydvd at the moment - i have to use another drive(hp 740i-TSSTCORP CD/DVDW TS-H552D GA01 1110M - and an old liteon dvd rom) to decrypt - just use other drive to save to hard drive then burn with liteon 20x- maybe this will be addressed with future updates funny thing is though all 3 mentioned drives will work with dvdfab,just not with anydvd
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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 2

Hey guys, im not too technicall on this sorta thing so exuse me lol. I just got a dvd burner, and I simply use DVD Shrink to rip it to my Hard Drive then the trail version of DVDclone2 to burn it. But when ever i try to rip it i get the Check blah blah error, you mentioned it before. Really not sure what to do on this one
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My bad the error is "Cyclic redundancy check"
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