Hmm. I don't quite get that interpretation. I don't understand what you mean by "proper ripper". By copy and pasting with AnyDVD active, it is decrpyting (which is where the word ripping comes from) on it's way to the hard drive. I never have understood why some use DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD running. For example. If there is a DVD movie that DVD Decrypter can decrypt without AnyDVD running, the result on the hard drive would be the same if you just copied and pasted that DVD over with AnyDVD active.

The problems I have seen with people stating issues with DVD Shrink was when trying to have DVD Shrink take it straight off the DVD disk (with AnyDVD active). Something to do with DVD Shrink doing random sector reads (where there would be some issues with that method on some DVD movies)? When copying and pasting the DVD over to hard drive first (with AnyDVD active), DVD Shrink then had no problems processing it.

If I'm missing something in the way I'm understanding all this, I'm all ears.

It seems with have another daily soap like loveboat

I have used it from time to time with scratched discs - with the ability to set read retries to high numbers, it will usually keep retrying and most often will get the data.

Also for the people who use DL discs, using DVD Decrypter will keep the layer break in exactly the same position. But I guess the new CloneCD will take care of that part - and the new CloneDVD going to have automatice read retries!!

On my machine DVD Decrypter moves the files to my HD quite a bit faster than a copy and paste does.

not only wil rippers often work fast thatn copying and pasting, many have the ability to fix mastering/structure errors as they rip.

Intuitively, I undersand where the difference doesn't make sense. I think we need Jame sin herto explain this more clearly.

I've ALWAYS been under the impression, anydvd or not, that using a RIPPER is much more rpeferable to copying and pasting, and since I'ce drawn the similarity between this new anydvd ripper and a copy and paste function, and since James mentioned this was a last resort I assumed it was for the same or similar reasoning.

Hopefully he can shed som elight on the topic because aside from the arguments already given it seems like there should be something more substantive behind it, and I can't provide that backup...It's just somethin gI've always been told and alwyas followed (a software ripper is better than copying an dpasting)

James, honey, where are youuuuu?

(also, i apologize for my typing...'m layingin bed and my computer is across the room...the receiver for my wireless keyboard is slightly too far away for my typing to be decent...that or I might be hung over. whoops.)

Yeah, I'd like some clarification on this as well. AnyDVD advertises that it is all you need to decrypt ANY DVD movie. It doesn't say for best results you also need a separate ripper (that essientially does the same thing that AnyDVD does). I'm still having a problem with this so called difference between Decrypting and Ripping. My understanding has always been that "Ripping" was just a slang word for Decrypting). Now some are saying they are not the same thing. Makes no sense to me.

I don't use DVD Decrypter since I bought AnyDVD, never had a need to. The DL break doesn't really interest me since I don't copy to DL disks. I'm a simple "movie only" guy. Gimme the movie, forget the frills. I'll have to give it a shot to see if running the DVD through DVD Decrypter (with AnyDVD active) gets it to the hard drive quicker than copy and paste. I have a hard time believing that (no way around the time it takes to move over 7 gigs off a DVD to a hard drive) but I"ll test it to see for myself. I wonder if the comments from those who state this are subjective or if it has actually been timed one way vs the other (on the same movie).

anydvd does succeed in its claim that it's all you need to decrypt. it makes it so your computer thinks the disc is unprotected, but tha'ts where its decrypting capabilities end.

anydvd has never made any claim about being a "ripper" (until the new feature in this beta version that slysoft has said to use sparingly...)

i think the difference between decrypting and ripping are getting mixed up here.

I'm not saying you're confused, let me just state the following my my own clarification...

if you copy and paste, you're essentially ripping, but you're not using anydvd to rip. you're using windows explorer. this copies the information from the dvd and that's about it. You are able to do this because anydvd has decrypted it for you...not because anydvd has any sort of ripping ability. using this method of "ripping" doesn't allow for any error correction or layer break detection or anything like that.

now, say for example, you use anydvd to decrypt (like before) and CloneDvd to rip. From what I understand, clonedvd goes through and makes sure everything looks as it should as it copies the files to your hard drive. it sort of autocorrects structural errors and things of that nature.

if you go a step further and say you're ripping a DL disc with dvd decrypter, DVDD even goes so far as to create a file that preserves and transfers the layer break information to your backup...something that certainly can't be done with a copy and paste function.

hopefully someone can pop in and confirm my assumptions above or tell me I'm a moron...either way, this is what i've always believed about the differences between using ripping software and copying and pasting...

Thanks for your info. It makes things a little clearer to me. One thing you mention.

I think AnyDVD is doing a bit more than that. Taking out the copy protection is one thing but other adjustments have to be made to the DVD movie (with now having the copy protection stripped out) to get it to play. There has to be some structure adjustment going on that AnyDVD is doing. Can't just take something out without adjusting/putting something back in so the encoder knows what its reading.

Heh heh, you're being too kind. I'm confused as a MF!

Including the FixVTS tool in AnyDVD is just a great idea!
Some DVDs are so deadly crippled that it's not possible to create a backup
(using AnyDVD) without having a f*cked up timecode (so that you can't
use the slider and jump to a specific point/scene within the movie without
having to wait a minute).
And that's where FixVTS comes in... Thx!

Lol at hte beginning i didn't like anydvd but know i'm using it a lil bit.(good program).
BTW: i'm ripping a movie with Anydvd new feature RIP dvd to hard disk. I tryed to copy this movie 'Mulan' for maybe 1o times(not joking) but there is a problem with one of the movie files(to manny scratches). It's now ripping, it will tell you if it work.
If it work i think this anydvd would be my favourite.

It's now http://sandbox.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD5901.zip

Release Notes?

Be careful with this. I tried to experiment with it (the 5900 download) on my old Win2K backup system and once 5900 was installed, it refused to reboot until I went in via "safe mode" and uninstalled AnyDVD completely. Maybe it is something about my system (I tend to try lots of things on this box, so remnants of something could be the issue & I don't have a DVD burner in the box at the moment). Just a caution to proceed carefully with this beta.

Never had any issues installing any version of AnyDVD. I just first close AnyDVD, install, reboot, Done.

That's all well and good, Mike. I'm perfectly capable of installing a relatively simple software driver.
I was just providing a caution to folks to be careful with this beta if you have an environment like I described.

Never suggested you didn't. I was simply stating my experience. I don't think one person's problem warrants a "Be careful with this one" to everyone else. I installed the 5900 and the 5901 with no issues, just like all the other versions I have installed.

It seems to work fine... the release notes, at first glance, look identical to 5.9.0.0. It must have been a tiny tweak..

I just ripped a movie with the AnyDVD ripper. All I can say is James (from Slysoft) must be a perfectionist cause he said the interface looks ugly. I thought it looked pretty nifty.

Nice simple Windows interface with 4 bars.
Source Directory.
Destination Directory.
Progress Bar. (for each VTS file)
Total Progress Bar. (shows percent of progress, speed of transfer, and time left before completion)

The only thing I could think to add would be the size and percent of progress of each VTS as it's being processed (on the first progress bar).

All in all, Mikey likes it! I liked it a lot better than that goofy cartoon that shows while CloneDVD2 is ripping (now THAT is ugly James). I love this feature and will use it for ALL my DVDs (I always copied and pasted before anyway).

@rich86 I too had probs with 5901 thought I would trial this also I installed it and tried
to open a disc with shrink but all my drives locked up so I unistalled and rebooted and my drives were still locked up so I reinstalled 5841 and problems were gone . Could be still some teething problems with the beta version yet

Hi
Call me stupid but isn't that the idea of naming something 'beta'. It's posted here so that those who wish can try prerelease s/w. As a 'test' group we then post/report any findings. So yes there could be 'teething' problems. If you keep the previous version, you can always go back to what worked for you. If this is too much hassle just wait till the next upgrade is posted on the main site. I believe that it's good that slysoft are prepared to put up with/& work with us to resolve problems as they arise. This is a rarity indeed.
slysoft & cdfreaks who will try anything new .
Rant over.