Alan you are a rose amongst thorns.

I am assuming you mean't CloneDVD not Clone CD, please correct me if I am wrong.

@Mr. Hugo, I thank you for your comments.

Feel yourself corrected. No, I meant CloneCD. CloneDVD is not a 1:1 image copier, it can't do that. And yes, CloneCD copies DVDs just fine. And yes, CloneCD has a misleading name.

Aww... very nice!

ET

Never knew that! So, assuming an SL DVD, is there a reason to use CloneCD or CloneDVD to backup a DVD? Would one be better than another or the same? Obviously, CloneDVD has menu and chapter features.

If you want an exact copy of a DVD-5, without stripping anything, CloneCD is fine, exactly like DVD Decrypter in ISO mode or Nero with 'Copy DVD'.
It will not see the menus or the VOBs, just working at ISO level.
CloneDVD will analyze the menus (sometimes fixing something that appears incorrect), and works mainly at a 'file' level.

ET

Thank you. I was not aware of the R2/Country issue. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me.

James,
I have mostly used AnyDVD combined with CloneDVD for backups (split BU's mostly). I never bought CloneCD because "I wasn't interested in backing up CD music". So now you tell me CloneCD backs up DVD's! I never paid any attention to CloneCD and always thought of it as the "lightweight" or antiquated (movies to VCD only) product in Elby's product lineup.

OK, so just to be clear, CloneCD will now backup an entire DVD image for 1:1 DL+R backups, yes?

Does it also burn the DL+R media (or only CD's)? Or do we will we use CloneDVD to burn the HDD image to DVD blank media?

If it does burn the DL+R media, how does it handle bitsetting/booktyping or is that still up to the burner and burner manufacturer's included utilities?

How will CloneCD handle block/structure protections, bad sector protections, invalid VOBUs, Arccoss, Puppetlock, Sony, Macrovision etc? Are these all covered by AnyDVD's capabilities and we won't be experiencing "new protections problems" like are now experienced with DVD-D/ImgBurn, Nero Recode (even in combination with your constant need to "tweek" AnyDVD compatibility for same) and other aging or poorly updated backup solutions?

Any chance an entire DVD9 original will contain more data than can fit on DL+R media capacity. Or that either layer of a DVD9 original will contain more data than can fit on the two layer sizes provided by DL+R blank media?

My impulse is to ask what kind of features (like CloneDVD) does CloneCD have but I guess we won't be removing audio streams, previews, extras, or splitting our backups if we are backing up a 1:1 image to DL media, will we?

Sorry if I seem dense, I'm just surprised by this. What is it's overall capability for DL image backups compared to the features of DVD-Decrypter?

Thanks James,
Whisperer

PS: If CloneCD has the above capabilities, I think you need to rename the product. ImageCloneCD/DVD or just ImageClone or some such name. Have a contest for naming the product and give away the whole Slysoft bundle as a prize!

CloneCD Version 5.0.0.0 (and later) copies DVDs, also to DVD+R DL, according to the CloneCD changelog it was released in July 2004.

I thank you for your response and in learning this new information you may have just made another sale. I currently own liscences for CloneDVD and AnyDVD but when this new Version of CloneCD comes out I will be here to buy it, I should have bought the entire package when I first bought AnyDVD but I was wrong and now I can see all the advantages that I have been missing. Thankyou James.

Yes, it does this since almost two years now. It did not move the layer break location from the source to the distination disc. It will do that in the next version.

It burns DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM and DVD+R DL. Next version will burn DVD-R DL as well (but without layer break setting, as DVD-R DL dosn't allow that).

It doesn't do bitsetting for DVD+R media. Same as CloneDVD.

CloneCD relies on AnyDVD to handle protections on Video DVDs.

I have never seen a DVD-ROM bigger than DVD+R DL media. In this case you can use CloneDVD to strip it down a little bit. Next version of CloneCD supports overburning of DVD media as well (current version doesn't).

CloneCD has a different approach. It operates on a sector level. It does not try to understand what is on the source disc, it simply copies it sector by sector. CloneDVD is more intelligent, it allows you to change things. CloneDVD operates on a file level and remasters the disc. There are situations where you don't want this kind of intelligence.

With the next version of CloneCD, they are on the same level.

If you have a well estalblished product name - with over 4 million(!) hits if you type this name in Google - you won't change it. Just think of the name "CloneCD" as non descriptive. Like "Mercedes" or "Red Bull".

same level as dvd decrypter with the next update in regards to DL burning?!

haha I'll admit, I'm yet another normal slysoft user that assumed cloneCD was for...well...CDs haha.

I'll definitely look into getting this when it comes out.

Will surely be a winner, since it will be a supported and updated product.
I am also looking forward to it's debut.

well, at least for me the v5.8.3.1 worked perfectly for the german(!) version. no R2-import, but real german dvd...

Sure, AnyDVD cracks Settec Alpha DVD since version 4.5.5.1 (January 2005) with CloneDVD (and Shrink, Recode & Co.).
It did not remove all read errors, so drag'n'drop or using CloneCD(!) did NOT work. Now it does.

ok, thx for the info.

Thank you James, for answering virtually all my questions. Thank you to Tru too for responding. I'm in , post the $ deal when your marketing people have thunk up the opening promotion.

Best regards,
Whisperer

i have switched to dvd +r dl blank media, when the next update for clonecd comes out should i switch from clonedvd? which one is better for the +r dl.

Can i ask. That CloneCD does DVD's too. How does it fare on backing up PS2 games.

I never knew CloneCD did CD's also. But i have used CloneCD a long while ago in backing up PS1 CD's. As even with the mod chip most backup programs for some reason still couldnt get backups to play on my modded PS1. CloneCD was the exception to this.

Now i was wondering how CloneCD does on backing up PS2 DVD's. Will they be playable on a modded ps2 or are there any special settings/plugins i will need to backup a PS2 DVD with CloneCD.

Also when is the new version of CloneCD due out?

Thanks