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Old 15-03-2006   #21 (permalink)
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anydvd's ripper does retain the original layer break.
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Old 15-03-2006   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Movie "Flightplan"

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DVD Decrypter doesn't like something AnyDVD is doing with Flightplan R1.
At the risk of repeating myself . . . "right clicking on the fox icon in your toolbar and selecting "rip video-dvd to harddisk" would have fixed the structural errors anyway (you should then be able to process the video_ts folder with decrypter without issue)." Use Anydvd ripper, first.
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At the risk of repeating myself . . . "right clicking on the fox icon in your toolbar and selecting "rip video-dvd to harddisk" would have fixed the structural errors anyway (you should then be able to process the video_ts folder with decrypter without issue)." Use Anydvd ripper, first.
I'm not using Decrypter to process the video_ts folder, I'm using it to make an ISO/MDS that retains the original layer break info to burn to a DVD+R DL disc. I don't believe that can be accomplished by ripping a DVD9 to a video_ts folder using AnyDVD's internal ripper.

I know the authors have worked in the past to increase compatibility with Decrypter so my replies have mostly been a heads up to them that Decrypter was reporting pack header warnings on this title and CloneDVD2 was seeing IFO errors. On this particular DVD I wanted to create a DVD5 with trailers and foreign languages stripped so I used CloneDVD2, on Decrypter's mounted ISO/MDS image of this disc, which also fixed the IFO errors in the process.
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I'm not using Decrypter to process the video_ts folder, I'm using it to make an ISO/MDS that retains the original layer break info to burn to a DVD+R DL disc. I don't believe that can be accomplished by ripping a DVD9 to a video_ts folder using AnyDVD's internal ripper.
I don't use Decrypter normally (if at all, actually), but I just used Anydvd ripper, then created an iso and mounted it. Decrypter worked as expected. I am unable to determine if burning from decrypter would retain the original layer break (because I don't trust what the program tells me--nor do I have any reason to back up the movie I tested), and I am reluctant to use a DL disc to find out.

That said, if you have both Anydvd and Clonedvd2, I'm not sure why you'd bother with Decrypter at all for burning +R DL discs.

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I know the authors have worked in the past to increase compatibility with Decrypter so my replies have mostly been a heads up to them that Decrypter was reporting pack header warnings on this title
Fair enough

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and CloneDVD2 was seeing IFO errors.
I don't believe the combination of Anydvd and Clonedvd2 is having an issue with this particular title.

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On this particular DVD I wanted to create a DVD5 with trailers and foreign languages stripped so I used CloneDVD2, on Decrypter's mounted ISO/MDS image of this disc, which also fixed the IFO errors in the process.
I must not be understanding something. Why are you using Decrypter at all if you also own Clonedvd2? You can remove trailers and foreign languages with Clonedvd2. And if need be, Clonedvd2 can create an ISO.

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Re: Movie "Flightplan"

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I don't use Decrypter normally (if at all, actually), but I just used Anydvd ripper, then created an iso and mounted it. Decrypter worked as expected. I am unable to determine if burning from decrypter would retain the original layer break (because I don't trust what the program tells me--nor do I have any reason to back up the movie I tested), and I am reluctant to use a DL disc to find out.

That said, if you have both Anydvd and Clonedvd2, I'm not sure why you'd bother with Decrypter at all for burning +R DL discs.

Fair enough

I don't believe the combination of Anydvd and Clonedvd2 is having an issue with this particular title.

I must not be understanding something. Why are you using Decrypter at all if you also own Clonedvd2? You can remove trailers and foreign languages with Clonedvd2. And if need be, Clonedvd2 can create an ISO.
As far as I'm aware, the only way to retain the original layer break position on a DVD is to rip it with either DVD Decrypter in ISO Read mode (ISO/MDS) or the latest version of CloneCD.

Whether I use DVD Decrypter to burn a DVD+R DL is determined on a case by case basis. Try compressing any of the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition series to a DVD5 and it leaves a lot to be desired even if re-encoding using DVD Rebuilder and CCE. In those situations you want a dual layer backup that retains the original, and assumingly proper, layer break so your stand alone player doesn't hiccup or freeze at the layer transition.

If I am going to backup to a DVD5 then it doesn't matter if the layer break is retained and I rip to a VIDEO_TS folder, strip out the trailers and foreign languages with CloneDVD2, and then re-encode to DVD5 using DVD Rebuilder for the highest quality backup.

AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 isn't having an issue with Flightplan R1. It may or may not be having an issue with DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD for dual layer backups. I'm not going to waste a DVD+R DL on this movie either. Again, this is just a heads up to the AnyDVD authors who have commented in their changelogs that they were attempting to fix the pack header warnings DVD Decrypter sometimes gives when using AnyDVD.
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@ LivingDay,

Besides DVD Decrypter and CloneDVD there is another program by LIGHTNING UK! who authored the DVD Decrypter software program.. The program is named ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com). LIGHTNING UK! has made a lot of improvements to ImgBurn over the ISO burning functions contained in DVD Decrypter.

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In those situations you want a dual layer backup that retains the original, and assumingly proper, layer break so your stand alone player doesn't hiccup or freeze at the layer transition.
My apologies . . . Yes, I understand now. Thank you. I didn't fully understand your previous post). You're right: Clonedvd2 does not maintain the original layer break. I, personally, haven't experienced a huge issue with Clonedvd2 and Verbatim +R DL discs (I didn't notice a significant pause on my standalone player), but I appreciate that many people do wish to maintain the original layer break using decrypter.
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Using, AnyDVD and CloneDVD2,I have no problems...Why would you use recode...When you got CloneDVD2 and anyDVD...some times ,just for a change I use Shrink with Decrypter,to burn the movie.Dont forget to defrag the PC now and then.Really helps.
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