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Old 04-01-2007   #1 (permalink)
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I'll assume AnyDVD will handle this

Anyone care to speculate if this is really any different than CSS?
Studios approve movie-copying technology
Hollywood studios have approved a new technology and licensing arrangement that should remove a major obstacle consumers now face with burning movies they buy digitally over the Internet onto a DVD that will play everywhere.
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Also, most consumers will need a new DVD burner that includes the latest software. Some burners can be updated, Sonic said, and companies such as Plextor, a Qflix partner, are expected to market Qflix-enabled DVD burners that connect with a USB cable.
Looks as it's not on the market yet.
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Looks as it's not on the market yet.
and read the whole article - it requires new software put out by Sonic - and a new dvd burner loaded with firmware compliant with the new burning software - and even after all that, the movie studios have typical drm type capabilities to determine what you can or cannot do and how many times you can do it. Exciting, huh? I'll pass . . . .
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It a nice concept
having disks pop out of vending machines on demand, or downloaded to your home pc
but given that most consumers can't even program their hardware clocks, I don't think it will fly

As far as the protection goes, I think AD can already bypass if not this particular one yet, but another similar dowloaded movies' protection
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As far as the protection goes, I think AD can already bypass if not this particular one yet, but another similar dowloaded movies' protection
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6.0.4.5, 2006 08 01
- New: Added preliminary support for the FluxDVD protection
to the option to remove "Protection based on unreadable Sectors"
To copy DVDs downloaded from CinemaNow, you need to use CloneCD

6.0.5.0, 2006 08 18
- New: Improved support for the FluxDVD protection found on DVDs
created from downloads from CinemaNow (needs CloneCD, CloneDVD
2.9.0.1 or better or CloneDVD mobile 1.1.1.0 or better to make
a copy)

6.0.8.0, 2006 10 08
- New: Improved support for the FluxDVD protection found on DVDs
created from downloads from CinemaNow (needs CloneCD, CloneDVD
2.9.0.1 or better or CloneDVD mobile 1.1.1.0 or better to make
a copy)
I've never had occasion to rip a FluxDVD protected DVD, though.

I, personally, think it would be nice if AnyDVD added the ability to handle the new protection when it begins being used but I seriously doubt that I'd ever need it. I still like to have the original factory DVD case with all the relevant stuff that comes with a DVD. Downloading a DVD for a slightly cheaper price that then makes me have to use my own computer + DVD burner + blank disc - no case or cover, etc = a pure waste of my time, IMO.
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... I still like to have the original factory DVD case with all the relevant stuff that comes with a DVD. Downloading a DVD for a slightly cheaper price that then makes me have to use my own computer + DVD burner + blank disc - no case or cover, etc = a pure waste of my time, IMO.
Yah, yah, exactly(!) ... me too. I like the artwork, the boxed sets, the fold-out digipak cases and information inserts & flyers ... it makes me feel like I'm hefting a pressed version of a $20,000,000 -$100,000,000 movie production in my hands! I hate the hollywood suits but I love the directors, actors, crew and stage production people who all work together to make a gem I can own and hold in my hands.

I wanna touch it. I don't really warm up to this download stuff ... And you are locked into a proprietary marketing trap i.e. "their" software, "their" format, "their" rules, "their" price. They know who you are and have your credit card#, email address, etc, etc., because they have to own you before they will provide to you. Trapped! I like the simple anonymity of buying retail ... and of course backing up my investment.

Fair use should continue as defined already by a hundred years of legal precedents, not by some bunch of marketing suit's ploy rules ... or some graft ridden bunch of industry-lobbied, bought and paid for legislators trying to make it illegal to protect our purchase invenstment. My pen, my book, my wire-recorder, my tape recorder, my mimeograph machine, my copy machine, my tape recorder, my VCR, my DVD-RW drive!

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Yah, yah, exactly(!) ... me too. I like the artwork, the boxed sets, the fold-out digipak cases and information inserts & flyers ... it makes me feel like I'm hefting a pressed version of a $20,000,000 -$100,000,000 movie production in my hands! I hate the hollywood suits but I love the directors, actors, crew and stage production people who all work together to make a gem I can own and hold in my hands....
Not to get too far away from AnyDVD here...

One huge reason I do not plan to support or download any movies via the acceptable methods when Hollywood agrees is that I find it isn't about helping the consumer at all. It's all about more money for the industry.

In order to download a movie you need the appropriate hardware and a broadband connection. Forget dial-up. You need the computer that is powerful enough along with the DVD burner and the blank DVDs. Computer prices are falling these days for a computer that can burn DVDs but you are still talking an investment that will become obsolete in time and throw in the evolution in media standards (ie DVD, HD-DVD, BR-DVD). So essentially you need to buy your own DVD production system [which will need to be upgraded or replaced in time] and also pay for an internet connection. Break down the expenditure of money and I don't really see how the oh so wonderful and nice price reduction that Hollywood gives to be of any value whatsoever. They're saving money by not even having to press the DVDs, the cost of cases, the cost of labels, the cost of inserts, etc. I want to see them drop retail costs. Retail costs are over-priced already so the online cost is also over-priced since it's hardly much cheaper.

The people who can't get or afford broadband get left out. The people who don't have a computer or who can't afford one are screwed, as well. A stand-alone DVD player [not HD or BR] and an alright TV cost practically nothing these days. This is all about the industry leveraging the internet in a way to make more money for themselves. I hope industry-supported online downloading of movies completely and utterly flops.

Ahem... alright then. I'll end this here. Sorry for the mini-rant.
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Getting off topic but........I can copy a tape cassette (for all who are old enough know what that is) I can copy a CD. I can copy a VHS tape. I can copy TV shows. All for my personal use. Why dose the movie industry forbid us from copying a DVD? Yes I understand people copy and then try and resell the DVD's but there are laws designed to adress Pirating DVD,CD,Tape,TV and so on. The movie industry needs to wake up and stop being so greedy. I will never pay for a service that will "legaly" let me make Backups or copies of DVD's. The movie industry profits from the price of tickes, Rentals, in movie advertising, and finaly from Telivsion.........Yes I am ranting and it has been said before. I'll stop now.
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