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Old 22-06-2005   #41 (permalink)
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Re: Hitch

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It would copy fine, up to vts_10_2.vob - then I would get a CRC error.
Ah!!! Now I know why it worked for Slinger07, he copied main movie only without menus. vts_10_2.vob seems to be a dummy file which older AnyDVD versions have replaced with dummy sectors, while newer versions don't.
So vts_10_2.vob is causing a read error. But vts_10_2.vob does not belong to the main movie, if you copy only the main movie, you won't have any problems.
This explains:
1.) Why some people have success, some don't
2.) I didn't see any reason for the failure in the IFO files
3.) Newer versions of AnyDVD report 1 bad sector area less.
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Old 22-06-2005   #42 (permalink)
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Good Job Olli. ok, so then now if I try to copy the whole movie (Menu's/Extra's)..it should'nt work? I will give it a shot when I get home from work tonight. Is this something that needs to be changed or made a option in future versions of AnyDVD?
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I almost have to wonder if thier are several difrent versions of this movie (diffrent copy protection on diffrent lots or something). It's not just a few people having problems. I have looked on several forums trying to figure out how to copy it and lots of people are having problems. It also seems that a particular method/software works for some but will not work for all and their seems to be a few method that have worked for some. I didn't have any luck with two versions of anydvd or three diffrent versions of dvd decryptor. Dvd fab decryptor managed to rip it for me but clone dvd and nero couldn't use the ripped files.
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Dvd fab decryptor managed to rip it for me but clone dvd and nero couldn't use the ripped files.
Pardon my arrogance, but this doesn't surprise me.
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Olli, for me the file with all the protection is in the main movie VTS_01_4. I've only been trying to do the main movie.

I made one final attempt that turned out to be success. even though DVDD keeps reporting bad sectors, I let it run (using SPTI), it took 2 hours, but made a complete movie. Clonedvd2 still could not chug through it, but recode was able to read through.

I previously made a good copy but there was the scene after the krispy kreem donuts scene that disappeared (after hitch says "okay" and they walk into the next room for a motivational talk). Now its there, but with a little bit of blocking in the video, this must be where all those bad sectors were.
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Pardon my arrogance, but this doesn't surprise me.
Why? I don't have any feelings, good or bad about the program so I'm curious. I use anydvd 95% of the time but if it has problems I have always used dvd decryptor. Since it is gone (at least as far as updates), I was just looking for something else and it has been in the cdfreaks news latley so I thought I would give it a try. I take it you don't have a very good opinion of dvd fab decryptor?

@Magnetometer, vts_01_4 is the same file that I have been having problems with. I unintentionally left dvd decryptor running when I went to work (cannot remember which version) and it ran for 7 hours and still didn't get past all the bad sectors in vts_01_4. By dvdd are you refering to dvd decryptor (what version) and what do you mean by spti?
I'm kind of hoping that someone comes up with a bad sector list for this movie and dvd decryptor. Of course if thier are diffrent versions with diffrent copy protection, that won't do us any good unless we get bad sector lists for them all.
Does anybody know how to write a bad sector list for dvd decryptor? I know you just list the bad sectors to skip or whatever but I do not know the format /syntax to try it with.
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Re: Hitch

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Olli, for me the file with all the protection is in the main movie VTS_01_4. I've only been trying to do the main movie.
This seems to be another, completely different problem - a defective disc. Simple as that. (I assume you are talking about the Widescreen version of the movie)

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I made one final attempt that turned out to be success. even though DVDD keeps reporting bad sectors, I let it run (using SPTI), it took 2 hours, but made a complete movie. Clonedvd2 still could not chug through it, but recode was able to read through.

I previously made a good copy but there was the scene after the krispy kreem donuts scene that disappeared (after hitch says "okay" and they walk into the next room for a motivational talk). Now its there, but with a little bit of blocking in the video, this must be where all those bad sectors were.
This backs up my theory - your original disc is defective. I assume, that if you play the original disc in the drive you used for reading, you will see a "hang" at the same spot in the movie.
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Yes, he does. But he doesn't babble as much as I do.
Ok - good to hear. I assumed that if there were no replies from him, then he wasn't aware. Maybe he is just busy fixing the issue instead

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Re: Hitch

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Ah!!! Now I know why it worked for Slinger07, he copied main movie only without menus. vts_10_2.vob seems to be a dummy file which older AnyDVD versions have replaced with dummy sectors, while newer versions don't.
So vts_10_2.vob is causing a read error. But vts_10_2.vob does not belong to the main movie, if you copy only the main movie, you won't have any problems.
This explains:
1.) Why some people have success, some don't
2.) I didn't see any reason for the failure in the IFO files
3.) Newer versions of AnyDVD report 1 bad sector area less.
Excellent detective work Olli
Now - any chance of it getting fixed?

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Hello Guys,

I followed Healey's advice uninstalling the latest Slysoft AnyDVD version 5.2.6.1 after suffering the same failure - the first I have ever experienced since buying Any DVD - on the widescreen version of HITCH. The same thing for me after reinstalling 5.2.2.1 all went well on the widescreen backup of HITCH.

I am going to run 5.2.2.1 until I hit something it does not work with until there is a fix because my experience supports Healey's that something is glitched in the current version of AnyDVD with HITCH acting as a catalyst.

By the way my thanks to you Healey for your earlier post on your cure.

Also, to the folks at Slysoft; I am still a very happy Slysoft customer. Best $40 bucks I have spent on this type of DVD software - I also bought the original CloneCD from Olli and loved it as well - again money well spent to support pro software. Slysoft will figure this out if it needs to be done.

Healey - thanks again for the excellent post
Hi Massada,

I'm glad the "workaround" worked out for you.
I'm also glad (I guess) that there's another verification of something being up in the newer versions of just AnyDVD, with nothing else changing other than the version which will /won't allow a clean copy.

Now.... if we can only get a fix so we can stay current again

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well I hope they were just badly pressed discs (a batch of them), that would be great .
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@Magnetometer, vts_01_4 is the same file that I have been having problems with. I unintentionally left dvd decryptor running when I went to work (cannot remember which version) and it ran for 7 hours and still didn't get past all the bad sectors in vts_01_4. By dvdd are you refering to dvd decryptor (what version) and what do you mean by spti?
I'm kind of hoping that someone comes up with a bad sector list for this movie and dvd decryptor. Of course if thier are diffrent versions with diffrent copy protection, that won't do us any good unless we get bad sector lists for them all.
Does anybody know how to write a bad sector list for dvd decryptor? I know you just list the bad sectors to skip or whatever but I do not know the format /syntax to try it with.
under setting, I/O tab, SPTI - Micro$oft.

version 3540

If they truly are bad discs then it might come down to the error correction abilities our dvd reader.
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well I hope they were just badly pressed discs (a batch of them), that would be great .
That would be fun - trying to determine which version of AnyDVD to use - the one that will copy a badly pressed disc, or..........

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Re: Hitch

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@Magnetometer, vts_01_4 is the same file that I have been having problems with. I unintentionally left dvd decryptor running when I went to work (cannot remember which version) and it ran for 7 hours and still didn't get past all the bad sectors in vts_01_4. By dvdd are you refering to dvd decryptor (what version) and what do you mean by spti?
I posted about problems copying Beyond the Sea. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....=2#post1025849
You describe the exact problem I had, down to the same problem file: vts_01_4. This can not be a coincidence. I returned 3 brand new copies all with the same problem. Couldn't copy it with AnyDVD/ CloneDVD but finally got a passable copy with DVD Decryptor/Shrink (after several tries) by setting DVDD to ignore all errors. It took a couple of hours and 30 ignore files w/ 200 tries, but I got a copy that was good except for 3 secs. of pixelization at the trouble spot. Again, this can't be a coincidence, it sounds like the same problem people descrtibe trying to copy the UK version of Closer. I hope someone with more knowledge then me investigates. This was my first failure with AnyDVD/DVD in hundreds of successes. I am a big fan, but am bummed. I have always bragged to my friends that I wouldn't use anything else.
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Old 23-06-2005   #56 (permalink)
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I am having a similar problem here.... i've made 3 copies already... seems to work fine on the computer.... but for some reason causes a read error in the PS2 and xbox. Any ideas? I haven't been able to try in a real dvd player yet however. Newest version of any dvd says 2 sectors... 5.2.2.1 says 3.

I haven't tried the older version yet but the burned copy from using the newest version of AnyDVD info says everything is gone except for the "Found & removed wrong DVD structure!"... now obviously that is the problem. For some reason it says it has been removed before I copy but when I copy the copy says it is still there. Any ideas before I go wasting more disks Olli?

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Re: Hitch

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Hi Massada,

I'm glad the "workaround" worked out for you.
I'm also glad (I guess) that there's another verification of something being up in the newer versions of just AnyDVD, with nothing else changing other than the version which will /won't allow a clean copy.

Now.... if we can only get a fix so we can stay current again

Cheers,

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Hello Healey -

You are right on track - I signed up on the forum to make the confirmation because no one else had done it. By the way mine was also crashing at about 82.3 percent completion. Something obviously has changed when the old one copies and the new one does not copy HITCH with the same cure working for both of us. Slysoft will figure it out - when they do I will start upgrading again - meanwhile I will just download the updates but not install them.

Thanks again Healey !
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Re: Hitch

Just finished copying Hitch using AnyDVD 5.2.6.1 and CloneDVD2 2.8.4.1.

I used the normal defaults copying first to an ISO then ripped to a disk.
No error messages and no usual problems. previewing movie during copy to ISO worked fine.

Only thing I noticed was that it took a long time. It took over 4 hours to make an ISO file, but used to take only 18 minutes average. I complained to Slysoft - no reply yet.
It took only 20 minutes to rip.
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Ok - good to hear. I assumed that if there were no replies from him, then he wasn't aware. Maybe he is just busy fixing the issue instead
Exactly.

Please be so kind to try this version. Let me know, if it works:

http://update.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD5271.exe

5.2.7.1, 2005 06 23

- New: Added support for a new version of the "Sony ARccOS
protection" as found on "Hitch" R1 (US) to the
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- Fix: Problem introduced in 5.2.4.2 - not all unreadable
areas of ARccOS protected discs were replaced with dummy
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- Some minor fixes and improvements
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Just finished copying Hitch using AnyDVD 5.2.6.1 and CloneDVD2 2.8.4.1.

I used the normal defaults copying first to an ISO then ripped to a disk.
No error messages and no usual problems. previewing movie during copy to ISO worked fine.

Only thing I noticed was that it took a long time. It took over 4 hours to make an ISO file, but used to take only 18 minutes average. I complained to Slysoft - no reply yet.
It took only 20 minutes to rip.
You copied just the main movie..right? Region 1-Widescreen? Sounds like you did the same as I did.
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