Whisperer OK I well give it a try.(DVDclone) First going to watch the movie. I well let you know if it did what I wanted it to. I compress only because I do so much cant afford them dual dvd blanks. LOL I dont see any real ldifference in my compress ones to be honest.

Try using CloneDVD to split your backups onto two SL media. They are so cheap. DL disks will be under a dollar each some time in 2006, my prediction.
What type of video cable connects your present player to your TV? Wait till you play your compressed backups on an HDTV with your player set to progressive mode. You will see a difference in detail, overall and especially in the shadow areas. If you upgrade your home entertainment equiptment in the future, you will be stuck with a collection of lower quality backups. Please don't take my comments as belittlement. Just don't know if you thought of your future viewing enjoyment. And it's only my humble opinion.

Best regards,
Whisperer

No. PO closed yesterday so Amazon delivery off by a day. They usually time advanced purchases to be recieved on the official day of the DVD release but PO messed up that timing this time.

But this thread started as a no-problem thread right. So no problem expected. Just wish I had the damn movie. I love Jennifer! In or out of anything.

Whisperer

A sticky for example would have prevented this entire post
ie rip guard interferes with the anydvd+ dvdshrink combo gives out of memory error
so use anydvd latest version + one of the following vobblanker, clonecd or directcut and paste to hdd
then use your favorite editor on the rip

zaq,
Only in a perfect world, my friend! Do you think that if we made a media sticky, and it said NEVER uses memorex media, that it would miraculously end all the posts from people whose problem was indeed memorsux. Not! ... and I do get tired of telling different people, again and again that their problem is store shelf media. Why do they resist the advice? It doesn't help that cdf has a big advertisement for Memorex at the top of the page!

It seems like NO body reads the stickies!

As I remember, before AnyDVD was upgraded to combat RipGuard, even CloneDVD gave the out of memory message. Shrink is not updated much right? So you gave good advice to use another backup software.

Worked fine used anydvd and clonecd.

First, this is Not a North American website. BTW, I am constantly amused at posters that think this is an "American" website.

Second, you must first qualify your blanket statements.
Be accurate.
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Third, this is a multi-cultural site with visitors the world over.

Fourth, Just the Tax on one blank DVD-5 is 1.92 Euros which is over 2 U.S. dollars in France. Indeed, there is a significant tax in many other countries as well, in addition to the actual purchase price of the DVD.

Fifth, you must be from the USA.

Sixth, Single layer media is not cheap in many countries (see the above). So, please don't make the untrue blanket statement that "They are so cheap".


Therefore, your above prediction is incorrect unless you are speaking of costs in the U.S.A and BTW, the world does Not revolve around the USA.

Regards,

You seem real angry. Maybe angry about something other than the global inaccuracies you pointed out in my posting. Rack up my blanket statements to provincialism, I guess. Americans don't get out much.

Bon soir mon ami and God bless your President for standing up against our Cowboy.

Whisperer

Whisperer!! LOL lets not make this personnal. That is also for Feedback. Althou Feedback is right on the cost,everyone has there way of doing what they do. Lets not bring our monkey president into this.We as Americans have had enough of his sh*t as it is. Atleast I think 90% of us has. Cant help what he has done.So please dont single us out.I sighned up here for help and advise hoping I could share what I learned down the road. So everyone please.Im at peace at trippycountry maybe you should be to?

Not at all. I like him. He's got spirit!

Whisperer, I dont have a Widescreen HD LCD TV (YET), but intend to buy one in the near future. Just wondering if DVD's that backed up at say 80% Compression will have any noticable problems when viewing them on a higher-end setup? I currently only use the DL discs for backing up my movies that are so large that the compression ratio fell below 70%.

BTW, My monitor blew up so I am typing this on a 15' borrowed monitor until I buy a new LCD..so pardon any typo's

80%!!! Gawd almighty YES ... you are gonna see grainy lower resolution playback.

I prefer regular tube type HDTVs, not LCD. I feel they are cheaper and produce better quality image resolution, subtler color gradations and better contrast. But they are heavy, bulky, and burn more electricity. If that bothers you then go with the LCD, the whole rest of the world is on your side I think.

Here is how you will probably configure a home entertainment system once you get, or add over time, all the other componets to compliment your HDTV. You must have a DVD player that outputs the video in "Progressive Mode". Most new players do this. For this higher bandwidth output, you will need to connect the DVD player's video output to the HDTV with a high bandwidth 3-pronged, red/green/blue "Component" cable (not via low bandwidth red/white/yellow "composite" cables or a single round "RF" cable). Only a component cable can deliver the higher definition bandwidth of Progressive Scan mode output to your HDTV. You will connect your players audio output to a reciever/amplifier via either an optical digital cable or a coaxial digital cable. These cables carry the DTS 5.1 or 6.1 channel or the Dolby Digital 5.1 or matrixed 6.1 channel (I prefer DTS when available) digital streams to your receiver/amp which will then decode the digital stream and output it to either 5 or 6(or 7) speakers and the subwoofer.

Now onward to the visual test of your 80% backup disk vs the original's DVD quality. In CloneDVD, this means the backup is compressed by a factor of 20% or in other words 20% of the original's data-quality has been thrown away in order for it to fit on your 4.7GB media. Find a friend or a store front that has such a progressive scan DVD player setup hooked up as I described above. Play the original and memorize the quality you are looking at. Then play your 80% CloneDVD backup. I'll bet that you will exclaim "OH SHIT!", much to your embarrassment! You will see a very noticeable quality difference in bright scenes and an outright offensive quality difference in shadowy low light scenes. If not, you need to schedule an appointment with your optometrist really badly! Don't drive there yourself!

I can see a difference at 90% and 95% on my rig. I, personally, will settle for no less than 100% original quality. So I split my backups onto two disks. I use a DVD Changer rather than a single disk DVD Player to make watching split backups more convenient. And I'll transition completely to burning DL as soon as media prices drop a bit more. (Qualification): I have been told, however, that both SL and DL media and home entertainment equiptment is not very cheap in many places in the world so this may or may not be economically feasible for you, depending on where you live.

Hope this helps. I'm gonna take all my movies and my rig into the afterlife with me. My pyramid is nearing completion and should be ready in about 5 more years.

Best regards,
Whisperer

PS: Just checked the mail and i got my copy of Dark Water from Amazon. Gotta go back it up and watch it now.

^^^ What the ****?! Whisperer1, have you lost your freaking mind man?

You been on christmas vacation? Been wondering when you would jump in this thread

I have indeed. Been playing some xbox 360 all week and spending time with my kids. But that post from whisperer1....I just couldn't resist! I hope you're also on vacation having fun.

What(?), the pyramid thing? Ya, it was late and I guess I was getting giddy!

Just checked my CloneDVD/AnyDVD backup of Dark Water. Works fine, split point perfect ect.

Whisperer

Kids these days. Of course CloneDVD worked. Was there any doubt? I was simply referring to the 80% thing as I use that as my limit. Anything below that and I DVD-RB it. (I hate split discs with a passion). I realize everything's subjective, but, your post was hilarious.

Thanks, maybe i'll quit cdf and become a standup. Off to work now.

Thanks Whisperer1, I saved that post for when I can afford my new system. After reading that, I think I will be doing all my future backups at 100% DL also. I currently own a very nice Sony component stereo system with some bigass Cerwin Vega speakers for the thump and all the surround, but I need a updated TV bad.

Appreciate your help and am going to load up on the Verbatim DVD+R DL's this weekend

Dark Water R1 didn't work for me. I used AnyDVD 5631 and CloneDVD2 2851. There were no error messages but when I try to play the disc all I get is a black screen and no sound. I sent the IFOs to Slysoft. Don't know what else to do.

Edit: I took the bad disk and clipped the first three seconds from the beginning. Burned the new image and it played. Whatever the problem is its in the very beginning of the image.