AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? - Club CDFreaks

saint327 · 01-02-2007

I have posted this in the LiteOn forum, but also here incase someone knows about the issue already.

I have the 20A1H with LL06 and AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 (latest released Jan 29), and I am unable to sucessfully make backups of any dvd I own. I was trying to use DVD Shrink, and it kept giving encryption errors. Same with Nero, and DVDDecrypter.

I put the discs in another drive on the same sytem..and it works--as it should. So I'm thinking Slysoft needs to be notified?

Anyone else having same prob?

ISSA2005 · 01-02-2007

as 18ap lite on + nero (not sure if it anydvd or nero?)

see

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=207918

*BeLooken* · 01-02-2007

saint327 -

There is a distinct possibly that the problem lies in the LiteOn 20A1H DVD Burner Firmware.

You should contact LiteOn and inform them that you believe that there could be a glitch in the LiteOn 20A1H DVD Burner Firmware.

In many DVD Copying Forums there are postings related to problems with LiteOn LH20A DVD Burners Coping DVDs.

BeLooken

**alan1476** · 01-02-2007

It is .in the firmware of the Liteons, just the newers drives though, may I ask what backup program you are using ?
I have read where others are also having this problem. A new firmware update should fix it. Hopefully

saint327 · 01-02-2007

I have tried copying older DVD's (ones that dvddecrypter can handle without any help from anydvd) and they copy and burn just fine. Whenever I try using the ElbyCDIO engine in dvd decrypter I get the error. As soon as I go back to the default SPT1 from MS it works great. Of course I have to use anydvd to back up anything that is recent or that I purchase in the future.

That makes me think that its something in the elby engine that conflicts with the drive. Could it still be the firmware? I emailed LiteOn about it..hopefully they'll respond and I will post it here if that happens.

*BeLooken* · 02-02-2007

saint327 -

SlySoft Technical support has previously explained that SlySoft/Elaborate Bytes software makes a unique querying to DVD Burner Firmware/DVD Media MID that differs from most other DVD software. This different unique DVD Burner Firmware/DVD Media MID querying process requires that DVD Burner Firmware comply with a strict standard and sometimes DVD Burner Firmware is written in a manner that does not strictly comply with this standard.

BeLooken

DetroitBaseball · 02-02-2007

This appears to be a firmware update for your drive.

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2341

TeKnIcLe · 02-02-2007

I have the LiteOn 20A1H with LL06 firmware and haven't experienced any problems or conflicts with AnyDVD..

Does AnyDVD show or recognise your LiteOn 20A1H??

*coolcolors* · 02-02-2007

I also have a LiteOn LH-20A1H LL06 and haven't yet had any problems other then having to set my region setting on my drive. It would also help the forum reader if - saint327 - would state what the exact error is would go a long way to clear up what is the cause of the problem in drive reading or burning. Maybe also saint327 should try to use CloneDVD2 with AnyDVD and see if the same problem appears or go away.

KISSTHAT · 02-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcolors

I also have a LiteOn LH-20A1H LL06 and haven't yet had any problems other then having to set my region setting on my drive. It would also help the forum reader if - saint327 - would state what the exact error is would go a long way to clear up what is the cause of the problem in drive reading or burning. Maybe also saint327 should try to use CloneDVD2 with AnyDVD and see if the same problem appears or go away.

LiteOn LH-20A1H LL06 will work with anydvd/clonedvd combo - but will not work with anydvd/shrink or anydvd/recode combo- but being the drive -recode - shrink will work on an uncoded disk and also work with dvdfab platinum- seems anydvd has problem with these newer drives(HP DVD WRITER 940D 3H2 also) anydvd is always updated to work with clonedvd 1st , then later updates will take care of the rest-

Pelvis Popcan · 02-02-2007

I have this drive and have found many dual layer discs fail at 50% during the read process. Not all dual layer discs fail, but many do, and they consistently fail.

It appears this problem affects some other drives as well.

Slysoft's response so far is:

Quote:

I have seen drives which have problems at the layer break. These were Pioneer DVD ROMS if I remember correctly.
Maybe the Lite-On has a similar problem. I don't have this drive, so I can't check.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=201534&page=2

It looks like this may be a classic case of "It's the firmware, complain to the hardware company," "It's the software, complain to the software company." For the record, I have read some posts from people who say rolling back to a much older version of AnyDVD fixes the problem, so I lean more towards the software side of things. I can only hope for a fix from Slysoft. I offered to donate a 20A1H to them, but have not heard anything back.

Lord Croft · 02-02-2007

Plextor Drives: THE BEST!

**alan1476** · 02-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Croft

Plextor Drives: THE BEST!

I hear you Lord Croft but how does this help someone with a Liteon that is having problems, please keep your posts on topic please.

ISSA2005 · 05-02-2007

hay people the 18a1p has the same problem with the latest firmware?

**~KIPPER~** · 05-02-2007

My 165P6S and 16A7S both rail to read (rip) with AnyDVD running with Recode and CloneDVD2. Both drives rip fine with AnyDVD disabled while using Ripit, DVDFab Plat, and Magic Copier; it looks to me that the conflict is something between AnyDVD and the newer Liteon firmwares.

*Tru* · 05-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kipper

My 165P6S and 16A7S both rail to read (rip) with AnyDVD running with Recode and CloneDVD2. Both drives rip fine with AnyDVD disabled while using Ripit, DVDFab Plat, and Magic Copier; it looks to me that the conflict is something between AnyDVD and the newer Liteon firmwares.

Are these SATA drives? What SATA drivers are you using?
I don't think it is a firmware problem, but a driver problem.

**~KIPPER~** · 05-02-2007

165P6S is an External USB drive; the 16A7S is SATA. The only Ripping error occurs with AnyDVD running. Use either of these drives with other decrypting software and they rip without error.

jhtalisman · 05-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISSA2005

hay people the 18a1p has the same problem with the latest firmware?

AFAIK it doesn't. At least mine doesn't.

**alan1476** · 05-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhtalisman

AFAIK it doesn't. At least mine doesn't.

Neither did mine. But there must be some kind of conflict because I am hearing alot of this lately.

*BeLooken* · 05-02-2007

I believe that problem with recent LiteOn DVD Burners is that the Firmware contained on these DVD Burners does not strictly comply for the lack of correct technical terms I’ll take the liberty to call “DVD Firmware standard specification”. There are a couple of Forum postings that SlySoft (James) has responded to commenting of this “DVD Firmware standard specification” that in the past some DVD Burner’s Firmware versions failed to meet.

In the below 2 Forum postings are some comments by SlySoft (James) concerning this “DVD Firmware standard specification”. Unfortunately these 2 referenced Forum posting are a little drawn out but they explain the problems incorrectly written DVD Burner Firmware can cause.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....32#post1432932

In the above posting suggest reviewing postings #26/ #29/ #31 comments by SlySoft (James).

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....47#post1514847

In the above posting suggest reviewing postings #8 / #16/ #23 comments by SlySoft (James).

The above referenced Forum posting are just a couple of postings that deal with DVD Burner Firmware problems that SlySoft (James) has commented on. There are more but I am just too lazy to continue searching the Forum.

I believe Forum Members who are experiencing problems with their LiteOn DVD Burners and SlySoft AnyDVD should contact LiteOn and make them aware of the problem.

BeLooken

shawn_nee · 06-02-2007

I have the SHM-165h6s model and it has just rescently started to act up it just started in the last 2 months. Before then it has just run through many DVD's with no problems, but now It wont touch anything at all. Error's up all around. I use my older Liteon and it runs fine.

**~KIPPER~** · 07-02-2007

I am thinking that Slysoft hates liteOn. LOL

Pelvis Popcan · 07-02-2007

If it is a problem specific to Liteon firmware, then they have reason to.

*coolcolors* · 07-02-2007

I wonder since users been having problems with liteon 20A1H drive-why won't they post which dvd media they are having problem with so the rest of us can test that media to see if we get the same problem?

**~KIPPER~** · 07-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcolors

I wonder since users been having problems with liteon 20A1H drive-why won't they post which dvd media they are having problem with so the rest of us can test that media to see if we get the same problem?

These problems are not media caused; its mainly a problem ripping with the liteOns (later models) while using AnyDVD.

01-02-2007	#1 (permalink)
saint327 CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 38	AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I have posted this in the LiteOn forum, but also here incase someone knows about the issue already. I have the 20A1H with LL06 and AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 (latest released Jan 29), and I am unable to sucessfully make backups of any dvd I own. I was trying to use DVD Shrink, and it kept giving encryption errors. Same with Nero, and DVDDecrypter. I put the discs in another drive on the same sytem..and it works--as it should. So I'm thinking Slysoft needs to be notified? Anyone else having same prob?

01-02-2007	#2 (permalink)
ISSA2005 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 54	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? as 18ap lite on + nero (not sure if it anydvd or nero?) see http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=207918

01-02-2007	#3 (permalink)
BeLooken CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 655	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? saint327 - There is a distinct possibly that the problem lies in the LiteOn 20A1H DVD Burner Firmware. You should contact LiteOn and inform them that you believe that there could be a glitch in the LiteOn 20A1H DVD Burner Firmware. In many DVD Copying Forums there are postings related to problems with LiteOn LH20A DVD Burners Coping DVDs. BeLooken

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saint327 CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 38	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? I have tried copying older DVD's (ones that dvddecrypter can handle without any help from anydvd) and they copy and burn just fine. Whenever I try using the ElbyCDIO engine in dvd decrypter I get the error. As soon as I go back to the default SPT1 from MS it works great. Of course I have to use anydvd to back up anything that is recent or that I purchase in the future. That makes me think that its something in the elby engine that conflicts with the drive. Could it still be the firmware? I emailed LiteOn about it..hopefully they'll respond and I will post it here if that happens.

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02-02-2007	#6 (permalink)
BeLooken CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 655	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? saint327 - SlySoft Technical support has previously explained that SlySoft/Elaborate Bytes software makes a unique querying to DVD Burner Firmware/DVD Media MID that differs from most other DVD software. This different unique DVD Burner Firmware/DVD Media MID querying process requires that DVD Burner Firmware comply with a strict standard and sometimes DVD Burner Firmware is written in a manner that does not strictly comply with this standard. BeLooken

02-02-2007	#7 (permalink)
DetroitBaseball CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 251	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? This appears to be a firmware update for your drive. http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2341

02-02-2007	#8 (permalink)
TeKnIcLe New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 27	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? I have the LiteOn 20A1H with LL06 firmware and haven't experienced any problems or conflicts with AnyDVD.. Does AnyDVD show or recognise your LiteOn 20A1H??

02-02-2007	#9 (permalink)
coolcolors CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,936	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? I also have a LiteOn LH-20A1H LL06 and haven't yet had any problems other then having to set my region setting on my drive. It would also help the forum reader if - saint327 - would state what the exact error is would go a long way to clear up what is the cause of the problem in drive reading or burning. Maybe also saint327 should try to use CloneDVD2 with AnyDVD and see if the same problem appears or go away.

02-02-2007	#12 (permalink)
Lord Croft CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 264	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? Plextor Drives: THE BEST! __________________ My System Configuration: MB - ASUS P4B533 (Rev. 1.04 BIOS FW 1015) \| CPU - Pentium 4 2.4B/533 @ 2.6 \| POWER SUPPLY - Enermax EG465P-VE (460W) MEMORY - Corsair VS 512 + 512 MB DDR \| GRAPHICS - MATROX G400Max (Agp) \| AUDIO - Sound Blaster Audigy PLAYER DRIVE 1 - Master Primary Maxtor 40G (7200, U-ATA/133, UDMA5) \| DRIVE 2 - Slave Primary Maxtor 80G (7200, U-ATA/133, UDMA5) OPTICAL 1 - Master Secondary Plextor PX-755A (UDMA4, FW 1.08, TLA #0001, Jan 2006) OPTICAL 2 - Slave Secondary Plextor PX-760A (UDMA4, FW 1.07, TLA #0000, Feb 2006) OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 BURNING SWs: Feurio 1.68 \| Nero 8.3.2.1 & Recode 3 \| CloneDVD 2.9.1.9 & AnyDVD 6.4.5.9 & CloneCD 5.3.1.3 \| EAC 0.95b4 Speed Burnings CD-R for AUDIO: 4x or 8x \| Speed Burnings CD-R for DATA: 16x Speed Burnings DVD (+/-R) for MOVIE: 4x or 8x \| Speed Burnings DVD (+/-R) for DATA: 8x Speed Burnings DVD (+/-R(DL)) for MOVIE: 4x \| Speed Burnings DVD (+/-R(DL)) for DATA: 4x (Only!) Media Brand used: Verbatim

05-02-2007	#14 (permalink)
ISSA2005 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 54	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? hay people the 18a1p has the same problem with the latest firmware?

05-02-2007	#15 (permalink)
~KIPPER~ CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,289	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? My 165P6S and 16A7S both rail to read (rip) with AnyDVD running with Recode and CloneDVD2. Both drives rip fine with AnyDVD disabled while using Ripit, DVDFab Plat, and Magic Copier; it looks to me that the conflict is something between AnyDVD and the newer Liteon firmwares.

05-02-2007	#17 (permalink)
~KIPPER~ CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,289	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? 165P6S is an External USB drive; the 16A7S is SATA. The only Ripping error occurs with AnyDVD running. Use either of these drives with other decrypting software and they rip without error.

05-02-2007	#20 (permalink)
BeLooken CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 655	I believe that problem with recent LiteOn DVD Burners is that the Firmware contained on these DVD Burners does not strictly comply for the lack of correct technical terms I’ll take the liberty to call “DVD Firmware standard specification”. There are a couple of Forum postings that SlySoft (James) has responded to commenting of this “DVD Firmware standard specification” that in the past some DVD Burner’s Firmware versions failed to meet. In the below 2 Forum postings are some comments by SlySoft (James) concerning this “DVD Firmware standard specification”. Unfortunately these 2 referenced Forum posting are a little drawn out but they explain the problems incorrectly written DVD Burner Firmware can cause. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....32#post1432932 In the above posting suggest reviewing postings #26/ #29/ #31 comments by SlySoft (James). http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....47#post1514847 In the above posting suggest reviewing postings #8 / #16/ #23 comments by SlySoft (James). The above referenced Forum posting are just a couple of postings that deal with DVD Burner Firmware problems that SlySoft (James) has commented on. There are more but I am just too lazy to continue searching the Forum. I believe Forum Members who are experiencing problems with their LiteOn DVD Burners and SlySoft AnyDVD should contact LiteOn and make them aware of the problem. BeLooken

06-02-2007	#21 (permalink)
shawn_nee New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? I have the SHM-165h6s model and it has just rescently started to act up it just started in the last 2 months. Before then it has just run through many DVD's with no problems, but now It wont touch anything at all. Error's up all around. I use my older Liteon and it runs fine.

07-02-2007	#22 (permalink)
~KIPPER~ CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,289	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? I am thinking that Slysoft hates liteOn. LOL

07-02-2007	#23 (permalink)
Pelvis Popcan CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 177	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? If it is a problem specific to Liteon firmware, then they have reason to.

07-02-2007	#24 (permalink)
coolcolors CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,936	Re: AnyDVD not compatible with LiteOn 20A1H? I wonder since users been having problems with liteon 20A1H drive-why won't they post which dvd media they are having problem with so the rest of us can test that media to see if we get the same problem?

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