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1960's when they had gas wars here. I just remember seeing the signs when i was young and my mom and dad were filling the car's up and them talking about gas wars.

Sorry that is as far back as my brain allows me anymore. I was born in 1956.
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1960's when they had gas wars here.
That's before I was born.

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That's before I was born.

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There's quite a few older than me here.

I edited my post ^

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That makes the program about 72USD. Well worth the price.
In your humble opinion.

Not in mine and probably not in many others.

And, anyway, price and value are relative things. If I can get the same thing for lesser price, I'll buy that. This is one of the basic assumptions of economics - that people are rational.

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In your humble opinion.

Not in mine and probably not in many others.

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I can only speak for myself, I do not pretend to know what others are thinking. But I do know that 21 bucks would not stop me from buying something I know will work and has support as good as anyone in the business. So in the end it will be up to the consumer. We will see. For now you can still buy the software at a discount. This thread was to make people aware that the price will be paid in Euros, not to debate the companys right to do so. There will people who think its expensive, and there will also be people that will buy it and love it. This what make the world go around, if everyone had the same opinion the world would be dull.
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Samuri - that is the risk they must accept (and must have evaluated) with such a price hike.

I'm not advocating piracy of their, or anybody else's material - far from it - but, it will be a fact of life for them (as it already is, I expect). And I think you're right - some potential customers may turn into thieves, for that's what it is (but the counter-argument is that they probably wouldn't have bought anyway). And yes, then the software piracy genie is out of the bottle and you have a whale of a time getting him back in. In reality, he's out for keeps, isn't he?

And such a price hike is liable to make some people angry. I have had discussions on tax rates with people. Many say words to the effect that if the rate were fairer, they wouldn't resort to all sorts of schemes and structures to avoid tax. But they're danged if they'll pay 50% of what they earn in tax, so they do. In SS's case, there will undoubtedly be people who are danged to pay US$115 for a basic decrypter, so they'll find the torrents.

Having said all that, I understand SS is pretty good at licence revocation for torrents etc.

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It is quite unfortunate. Yes, they're good at license revocation, but, it's a pain to deal with. When you're charging nearly double the price literally overnight, there's far more incentive for crackers to target your product. Besides, I'd much rather Slysoft put resources towards cracking disc protections rather than having to deal with anti-piracy crap. But it is where we are likely headed. That being said, I own almost all of their products and love every single one. Would I buy at the new price? I'd like to think I would, but, that's damn expensive even for me...Now, that coming from someone who's a staunch and avid Slysoft supporter should tell you something about the new pricing structure and how people are going to likely react to it I'm afraid.
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It is quite unfortunate. Yes, they're good at license revocation, but, it's a pain to deal with. When you're charging nearly double the price literally overnight, there's far more incentive for crackers to target your product. Besides, I'd much rather Slysoft put resources towards cracking disc protections rather than having to deal with anti-piracy crap. But it is where we are likely headed. That being said, I own almost all of their products and love every single one. Would I buy at the new price? I'd like to think I would, but, that's damn expensive even for me...
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Now, that coming from someone who's a staunch and avid Slysoft supporter should tell you something about the new pricing structure and how people are going to likely react to it I'm afraid.
I'm a fan of all of my apps actually. All my apps have their purpose. Some are free. I donate to all the free ones that accept Paypal.

So basically if your cheap you will stay cheap.
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It is quite unfortunate. Yes, they're good at license revocation, but, it's a pain to deal with. When you're charging nearly double the price literally overnight, there's far more incentive for crackers to target your product. Besides, I'd much rather Slysoft put resources towards cracking disc protections rather than having to deal with anti-piracy crap. But it is where we are likely headed. That being said, I own almost all of their products and love every single one. Would I buy at the new price? I'd like to think I would, but, that's damn expensive even for me...Now, that coming from someone who's a staunch and avid Slysoft supporter should tell you something about the new pricing structure and how people are going to likely react to it I'm afraid.
You mean to tell me that you would not part with an extra 21 dollars if you did not have it already. I think you would, and so will people with any sense. Nobody likes to pay more for something, but when you add features that take man hours of development, they have to be paid. This is why they are so successful because they always have a plan. Either you want to pay for development of hd and bluray or you dont, you cant have it both ways, ask developers to work night and day and then tell them you won't pay a premium for their hard work. You can have a Ford or you can have a Mercedes. Its up to you. Me, I already own the programs but if I did not , I would gladly pay an extra 21 or 22 dollars, and the dollar is getting stronger so it might not even be that. The truth is that people are smarter than you think, they realize quality and my opinion, ( not others) is that they will be proud to own it at the price offered, then and now.
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You mean to tell me that you would not part with an extra 21 dollars if you did have it already. I think you would, and so will people with any sense. Nobody likes to pay more for something, but when you add features that take man hours of development, they have to be paid. This is why they are so successful because they always have a plan. Either you want to pay for development of hd and bluray or you dont, you cant have it both ways, ask developers to work night and day and then tell them you won't pay a premium for their hard work. You can have a Ford or you can have a Mercedes. Its up to you. Me, I already own the programs but if I did not , I would gladly pay an extra 21 or 22 dollars, and the dollar is getting stronger so it might not even be that. The truth is that people are smarter than you think, they realize quality and my opinion, ( not others) is that they will be proud to own it at the price offered, then and now.
You're assuming that I was only referring to the one product. As I said, I own all of them except Game Jackal. Would I purchase all of them at the new prices? I'm not so sure. CloneCD, for instance, while it provides some value to me, I find that I could if I had to live without it. (Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I own it...I'm just saying I'm not sure I'd pay more for it given how little I use it these days.) CloneDVD Mobile is another one that I'm not sure I could justify paying more for. CloneDVD I PROBABLY would buy even at the new prices because I do use that quite a bit. AnyDVD HD? Of course I'd buy it at the new price, yes. That's because I'm a big time HTPC user and contrary to Blu's assertion that he can get the same thing for free, the reality is that no, he can't. In fact, he can't get the same functionality of AnyDVD at any price. I don't find AnyDVD to be a basic ripper as he does. That's an area he and I have debated in the past and have agreed to disagree on. I find MUCH more value in it than he does and that's fine. In any case, my comment was on the entire suite of programs, not just AnyDVD. And to be honest, I would indeed have a hard time justifying purchasing some of them at higher prices.
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So basically if your cheap you will stay cheap.
That's a bit of a sweeping statement. I own and love a product I was sent for review, and I'd definitely buy it if I hadn't been sent it. I also use a mix of free and paid software, that doesn't make me cheap.

I do think this may alienate potential customers when there are other options (paid for and free ) available. I think it's a case of wait and see, personally.
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You're assuming that I was only referring to the one product. As I said, I own all of them except Game Jackal. Would I purchase all of them at the new prices? I'm not so sure. CloneCD, for instance, while it provides some value to me, I find that I could if I had to live without it. (Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I own it...I'm just saying I'm not sure I'd pay more for it given how little I use it these days.) CloneDVD Mobile is another one that I'm not sure I could justify paying more for. CloneDVD I PROBABLY would buy even at the new prices because I do use that quite a bit. AnyDVD HD? Of course I'd buy it at the new price, yes. That's because I'm a big time HTPC user and contrary to Blu's assertion that he can get the same thing for free, the reality is that no, he can't. In fact, he can't get the same functionality of AnyDVD at any price. I don't find AnyDVD to be a basic ripper as he does. That's an area he and I have debated in the past and have agreed to disagree on. I find MUCH more value in it than he does and that's fine. In any case, my comment was on the entire suite of programs, not just AnyDVD. And to be honest, I would indeed have a hard time justifying purchasing some of them at higher prices.
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Thats all I wanted to know, you can buy anydvdhd by itself, you do not have any obligation to buy the other products nor anydvdhd for that matter. Sometimes you have to move profits from 1 product to make others better, like the rumored CloneCDhd, CloneDVD2hd. Do you want these products or dont you? If you don't then tell people that you think the price is too high and the Slysoft development Team do not deserve to be paid for their great work. Prices go up, thats a fact, its not their fault that the American dollar is in the dumps right now, although it is getting stronger, and when it gets closer to par with the Euro all this will be forgotton. This is one product that I would gladly pay an extra few bucks on, and its not double even now, the dollar is trading at 1.47 to the Euro, do the math, its about 72 USD. To me I would be glad to buy it all over again. I enjoy it, in the end like I said before, development costs money, is Vista 400USD better then XP Pro, I think not.
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Yes, I understand the point. As I stated earlier in this thread, I believe Slysoft has a right to charge whatever they wish for their products. I'm a software developer, so I know all about getting paid for one's work and feel they definitely deserve it. My point is that a lot of people are going to look at the price increase and say "no thanks" and that's going to potentially hurt Slysoft. How is future development going to happen when potential new customers decide it's not worth the price to them? WE would pay more for it because we know what's gone into the development of it and all the hard work Slysoft has done and is doing. The average consumer couldn't care less. For them it's a matter of "does this copy the movies I want to back up? Check. Is it now worth X dollars to me to do so?" That's the question that remains to be seen. Again, I'm not saying they don't have the right to raise their prices, just that they should tread cautiously while doing so or they risk alienating a lot of potential customers. *I* still find value in the product...at least AnyDVD HD anyway. But, I know what it's capable of.
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Yes, I understand the point. As I stated earlier in this thread, I believe Slysoft has a right to charge whatever they wish for their products. I'm a software developer, so I know all about getting paid for one's work and feel they definitely deserve it. My point is that a lot of people are going to look at the price increase and say "no thanks" and that's going to potentially hurt Slysoft. How is future development going to happen when potential new customers decide it's not worth the price to them? WE would pay more for it because we know what's gone into the development of it and all the hard work Slysoft has done and is doing. The average consumer couldn't care less. For them it's a matter of "does this copy the movies I want to back up? Check. Is it now worth X dollars to me to do so?" That's the question that remains to be seen. Again, I'm not saying they don't have the right to raise their prices, just that they should tread cautiously while doing so or they risk alienating a lot of potential customers. *I* still find value in the product...at least AnyDVD HD anyway. But, I know what it's capable of.
Thankyou, you have answered my question, if I would have told you a few years ago that the product used to be 29.00 but now its 49.00 would you have balked, I think not. They are constantly developing all these products. This costs money. I think that if you can decrypt 5 discs and save your originals from damage you have paid for the program. Case closed.
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That's a bit of a sweeping statement. I own and love a product I was sent for review, and I'd definitely buy it if I hadn't been sent it. I also use a mix of free and paid software, that doesn't make me cheap.

I do think this may alienate potential customers when there are other options (paid for and free ) available. I think it's a case of wait and see, personally.
I understand you guys get apps and that's not being cheap, it's a luxury.

But if you use free apps and don't donate then yeah i would say that someone is cheap. *ducks and waits for everyone to give me crap*

I was homeless at one time so i guess that has something to do with my behavior.

If you like the app throw a couple (whatever currency you use) to them. I look at the free apps as musicians on a street corner and toss some money in the guitar case or hat or whatever they use. Guess i'm the only one to do this?

yeah they played exactly what i wanted to hear so tip the freebie people ever so often. Online they have a great app so i tip them also.
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I understand you guys get apps and that's not being cheap, it's a luxury.

But if you use free apps and don't donate then yeah i would say that someone is cheap. *ducks and waits for everyone to give me crap*

I was homeless at one time so i guess that has something to do with my behavior.

If you like the app throw a couple (whatever currency you use) to them. I look at the free apps as musicians on a street corner and toss some money in the guitar case or hat or whatever they use. Guess i'm the only one to do this?

yeah they played exactly what i wanted to hear so tip the freebie people ever so often.
You are not the only one Rolling56 I have donated to many free applications, I also donate many other worthy causes, and I am sure many here also do and many don't. The word free means free. No obligation, but if you feel the need to contribute, more power to your character.
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I understand you guys get apps and that's not being cheap, it's a luxury.
My point was that even though I got it free, if I hadn't I would have paid for it, just like everyone else.

Also, regarding donations - there are a multitude of reasons why people wouldn't - no PayPal account or credit card etc (such as myself - I have no personal CC or PayPal account) - doesn't mean a lot of folk wouldn't like to drop a donation here and there. So I wouldn't call people cheap without digging a bit deeper.


Edit: I can buy online using someone else's card (with their permission) but it's not often and it takes quite a bit of sweet-talk.

Anyway, I think we're taking the thread OT, whoops.
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You are not the only one Rolling56 I have donated to many free applications, I also donate many other worthy causes, and I am sure many here also do and many don't. The word free means free. No obligation, but if you feel the need to contribute, more power to your character.
Alan you and i have seen eye to eye on this for as long as i remember knowing you here. I'm sure any amount is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also

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