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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Quote:
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also I agree with you here but isn't there a better method than to make a program and just release it? I mean like take it to the courts again and not have a program out?
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Sure, for those that have money to do that. Fighting something in court is not free. Releasing a free application makes the statement you want to make.
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Quote:
Alan, I find some of your recent statements strange in that they have no factual basis. Regards
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also The fact is that if you want quality, you have to pay for it. For the people that write these programs knowing full well the consequences that go along with such a program always have a plan. Slysoft has the right to charge whatever they choose, and people have the right to buy it or not too, its as easy as that. My bet is that they will, and the dollar won't stay weak forever, everything will balance out in the future. For people reading this, if you have not bought the program by now, you never will. Slysoft announced their intentions in plenty of time to buy the program. For the new users that get into this hobby, they will have to pay what the program costs and knowing Slysoft there will be plenty of promotions to make everyone who wants the program accessible at a fair price.
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Alan, Irrespective of whether or not I intend to buy something, I can still have - and politely voice - my opinion about it. The price hike may not personally affect me, but I can see outwards enough to see it can affect other people. To take zaq's example ... I don't smoke but if cigarette prices double, I can see that would be bad for smokers. It would be bad for disposable income in the economy as a whole. And I can opine that it would not be good (or maybe I would opine that it would be, on health grounds). So, you see, it is totally irrelevant that I won't buy SS products. Regards
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also The fact is that this is the Slysoft Forum and as you have so politely taken this thread off topic ( as have I ) The fact remains, that you can be the champion of the people and still lose. If you want a quality product you have to pay for it, these programs all need updates to keep up with the protections. Yes people can still use them and then come here everyday and complain that they wont work with this or that title. Then the programs that have financial support come to the rescue. That is a fact. The programmers have to be paid, there is overhead in any business that is successful and that has to be paid for. What you choose to do is of no consequence here, what the authors chose to do is. I could go on but after all these post there is no point because you will never understand. I politely will now leave you all to champion all the freeware that is no longer updated, I for one own all the Slysoft products and love them, they do what they say and they work hard to satisfy their customers. Only the future will tell if their decision to raise their prices will be successful, and if its not I am sure they have a plan for that also. There is more to just slapping a few programs together to make freeware if you want to succeed in the long run. I politely leave you now and wish you all a Happy Holiday.
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Alan i was wondering when you would have had enough and it's a hard decision. To close or not to close this thread...........
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Quote:
Everyone is entitled to their opinions - and what the outcome of Slysoft's price increases remains to be seen. Tune in next year for the next chapter in this little free enterprise drama bought to you by the Elby/Slysoft software group . . . . | |
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Quote:
I am a potential customer for Bill gates Mansion so he better not put anymore stuff into it or well he just better not Regards sheesh what logic | |
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also To be fair, Rich86, there is at least one copy protection scheme R4M will fail on every time. Yes, I know that's a very small percentage of discs out there, but, R4M is not flawless. It will, however, do the majority of titles without problems so I agree that there's absolutely no reason to not use it if that's what you've been using all along. On the rare occasion that you run into a disc that it can't handle, another solution will be necessary. With AnyDVD, I haven't had many problems. And when I do, I know that an update is going to be released to handle the problem. Paid support vs freeware app no longer supported, I suppose.
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also None of this (including stuff on whether DVD Shrink and RipIt4Me are dead or still useful, and especially zaq's last post) has anything to do with the thread's topic - ie SS's across the board price hikes. I, for one, am trying to have an intelligent discussion about that. I don't suppose we can stick to the topic as Alan mentioned in post 84? Having said that, I acknowledge that it's zaq's thread and he can take it where he wants to (within forum rules) but I do find interesting, the discussion about this huge price hike. Again, if SS can get away with anything less than a 32% drop in volume they will be laughing all the way to the bank. But, if the number of special price promos we see from them every year is anything to go by, I suspect the company is quite desperate to rev up its sales (software engineers and cryptographers don't come cheap, whether you're in St Johns or Upper Gumbukta West and perhaps the market isn't expanding). One way to increase revenue is a massive price hike, counting on the quality of the product (as alan1476 has mentioned). Another, more usual method, is price discounting, tempting potential customers away from the competition - a tactic they have used in the past. And a 3rd is to offer more for the same price (eg chuck in a gamejackal - or whatever it is called - for free with new purcahses of product X). It will be interesting to see the results in a few months. As I said before, I suspect there are more than a few potential customers who will be very turned off by the price and turn to the competition, which will result in (perhaps severe) price discounting. Regards
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also You're probably right, Blu. What worries me, though, is what Rolling and I discussed earlier on in the thread...piracy. A price hike will push some "would be" pirates who were considering an actual purchase over the edge into the "screw that, it's too expensive but I want it" category. I'm certainly *NOT* advocating that action at ALL. I am very much against that, but, I'm not naive enough to think it won't happen. The problem with that is once you've turned potential customers into freeloading pirates, all the price cuts in the world aren't usually enough to bring them back to being paying customers. Ask the music industry, as an example, as to how that's working out for them. I truly worry that a huge price increase like this will decimate the potential customer field, possibly damaging it permanently I REALLY truly hope that does not happen, but, my gut instinct tells me it's most definitely a possibility. ![]()
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Samuri - that is the risk they must accept (and must have evaluated) with such a price hike. I'm not advocating piracy of their, or anybody else's material - far from it - but, it will be a fact of life for them (as it already is, I expect). And I think you're right - some potential customers may turn into thieves, for that's what it is (but the counter-argument is that they probably wouldn't have bought anyway). And yes, then the software piracy genie is out of the bottle and you have a whale of a time getting him back in. In reality, he's out for keeps, isn't he? And such a price hike is liable to make some people angry. I have had discussions on tax rates with people. Many say words to the effect that if the rate were fairer, they wouldn't resort to all sorts of schemes and structures to avoid tax. But they're danged if they'll pay 50% of what they earn in tax, so they do. In SS's case, there will undoubtedly be people who are danged to pay US$115 for a basic decrypter, so they'll find the torrents. Having said all that, I understand SS is pretty good at licence revocation for torrents etc. Regards
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also has anyone thought of this scenario.........that maybe their trying to get the on the wallers? to buy their products before the big hike in cost? or maybe their going to add more stuff (like in this old thread) we'll have to wait and see. Oh thanks this thread is pretty entertaining to read though. ![]() |
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Being the forum whore that I am, I've noticed that this price increase hasn't been as much of a hot topic over at the slysoft forum as it is elsewhere. I see some familiar faces here, the same as there and it baffles me that the community over there isn't in an uproar.... http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=10439 |
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Could it be that it is because the majority of them, me included, already own all the products they want and are thus less concerned with increases? |
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also I guess so, considering this is a "ME" world. Everyone must be smiling thinking, "I've got mine, if you don't have yours too bad." |
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| Re: Anybody note the intended price change after Jan 1/08 = buy licenses fast and use X_mas 20% off also Quote:
Sad to say this is what kind of world we live in. The OP simply meant if you don't own them or any get them now before the hike.
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