blutach your acting like a something for nothing person. You have very good knowledge of free apps from the posts i've seen.

blutach do you own any of SS products or see a future in purchasing from them?

BLutach
You really have me and maybe others confused
You don't own and it seems you don't intend to own any SS products, nor do you like them, yet here you are, again.
So really none of you arguments hold water this time around
You certanily are not an affected customer or potential customer
Right?

Its like me saying I don't smoke, but get mad if the price of cigarettes goes up

In fact you should be happy since you see nothing but doom for SS beacuse of the price change , and if they do it to themselves all the better
Heh?
Regards to you

blutach has a right to gripe. I just wanted to get down to the reason why Thanks for replying blutach

I particularly enjoy your logic! The developer got caught, therefore he can't be that clever! By that logic, Lightning UK! isn't very clever either ...
I feel that lots of people would disagree with your conclusion here! (I would be the first to! )
Jean

I agree, Blu, your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's on this topic. Anyone who says otherwise is COMPLETELY wrong. I don't think you've handled yourself in any manner for which you should be ashamed in this thread. You've stated your opinion and given reasons why you feel that way. That's completely valid. I also agree that the price increase is probably going to hurt Slysoft in the end. That sucks, but, that is their choice to make. To think that this price increase WON'T have an effect on sales is naive.

I would have to agree with you I think. Being caught is not a sign of not being clever, more unlucky. Besides, many people feel that LUK and the author of R4M didn't do anything wrong. I am one of those people. They provided a tool that allowed for fair use backups of legally purchased media. That, apparently, is bad because some people might use that to make backups of media they did not legally purchase. The logic doesn't fit there, either, I think.

I just look at it like it's their problem to get sales. If they go under then i have other apps i paid for to do the same thing. yeah i try to cover my rear end so to speak Life goes on.......

Rolling, that's problematic if you're dealing with HD media, however. There is no "other app" at the moment that will work on the latest titles, much less on BD+. If they go under, I will not be able to backup my discs anymore and that will make me cry. I like having them on my HTPC so I can just mount an image and watch my movie. Lazy? You betchya!

Same here Rolling I own just about all of them right now.

Oh it will but what makes me start to wonder is the fact of the lifetime of free updates, how's this price hike going to affect that? I own all of Slysoft's apps and love them dearly but also still wonder what about the future too. When something is a great product one hates to see it gone.

I agree with you, my take is that a tool to backup HD is a lot more valuable than a tool to backup regular DVDs. The pricing should probably reflect that. I don't own any HD discs, and don't plan to in the immediate future, so paying big dollars for something that I won't use does not make much sense to me at this point...
Jeanl

I understand that totally SamuriHL. But it's not up to us what they are going to do. By the way they haven't gone under anywhere that i know of yet

I know people are upset but they will do what they want to and we'll just have to wait.

Sorry, I dont agree. Poor planning is not clever. I never mentioned LUK, when he had his problems noone knew what lengths authoritys would go to. I respect his new decisions and love his program. On the other hand , I guess the author of Ripit4me did not learn from others mistakes, that is not clever or smart. The program was just a compilation of other peoples work. Sorry I don't agree, bad decisions were made and the program paid the price. Its sad.

sorry
I didn't say you don't have a right to an opinion
if you want to be a customer that is all fine
It just that your logic escapes me
regards

jeanl or LUK! know how to write s/w so we have to wait for something available. More power to you guys and whomever else. But like Alan said learn from others mistakes and we all benefit.

zaq i'm just saying this is a public forum and he has the right to post.

My turn to have to disagree with you! I don't know where you get the info that the program was just a compilation of other people's work. Stating this as a fact does not make it a fact! In fact, the program appeared to do a lot more than simply call decrypter and fixvts, all you needed to do was read the log to figure that one out... But that entire point is now moot... BTW, judging from what happens in general in such cases, I would guess that it was not just the program that paid the price!
Jeanl

Alan, I seriously have to respectfully disagree with you on this point. R4M was *FAR* more than a compilation of other people's work. I know you probably didn't mean any disrespect to the R4M program, but, the author should be given credit where it's due. And on R4M, the work they did was far more than was obvious.

That's an extremely true, and VERY unfortunate statement. We all need to remember that there are two sides to this issue...people who wish to restore fair use rights by providing tools to backup media and those who wish to destroy them. NOT kuel.

Rolling
re-read the posts
I never said he has no right to post
He said that himself
Everybody has a right to post, and an opinion
I just cannot not find any logic or sense of his posts/opinions in this thread,
and that is what I said

This thread on a simple price notification and a good oppurtunity to take advantage of a sale is quickly going down hill.
and wasn'tt meant to be a primer on the economics of elasticity

And that is my opinion and my final comment
Regards