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| CDFreaks 'Dogbert' Resident Join Date: Apr 2005
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Very thorough review, Kipper! ![]() 1 thing sticks out in my mind: Dynex typically doesn't have genuine MCC 004 or MCC 03RG20, and it is generally a borrowed media code that results in poor quality. Do you think that mentioning that by the Dynex 16x DVD+R MCC 004 result would be helpful? Because when I saw the resulting scans, I said "That figures". However, some people may not know that the media is fake. ![]()
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Thanks Albert This Dynex media is labled as MIT and not HK and in CDSpeed it shows as manufactured by Verbatim. |
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
MIT for once...wow. Thanks for responding. ![]() [Tip: the manufacturer reported in CDSpeed works off of the media code. It will show the same for faked media. ]
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| CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review I've tested this drive for few days , medicore burner at best compared to my other burners . Thank you for the review , I will check it out . I was hoping for Asus to get back to rebadging Pioneer ![]()
__________________ C2Q Q6600 L804@3.4 (426x8) 1.425 Bios (1.36 CPU-Z) Vcore with stock HSF ![]() Foxconn MARS A-Data 2x1GB EE 1066+ Gigabyte 8800GT TF @700-2100 Asus MW221C 22" Widescreen LCD 2x500GB WD SE16 Audigy2 ZS-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital HEC ACE 420 watt PSU Samsung 203B SB03 ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB Benq DW-2000@LiteOn 20A4P 9PV1 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media |
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| Admin & Review Coordinator N.America Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
After discussions with (and investigation by) Verbatim GmbH, we found out that the media code MCC004 in Dynex brand is not genuine, so we've decided to remove the Dynex media tests from the review. ![]()
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Thanks Albert Good question on the validity of that media; caused us to do some double and triple checking and as zevi said above it has been removed. |
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| Moderator & Software Editor Join Date: May 2005 Location: Watching you
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Congrats Kipper this is one of the best reviews yet, I really enjoyed reading it and your accessments are right on. Maybe a few others that have read these reviews and bought this drive can add what their opinions are. I would like to see how the Lightscribe function work in comparison to other drives. I am glad they are not using Pioneer rebadges, as most would rather have the Retail Pioneer. Stiil a great review and give me a true idea of what this can and cant do. I look forward to these reviews, they help me make a decision on whether to buy a drive or not. ![]()
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Thanks Alan While doing this review I could not help but notice that when burning 20X media that the drive behaves very similar with the new pioneer 115. Take a look and compare the slow down and look at the write curve on the two drives. ASUS engineering informed me that this happens with some 16X media and is a built in feature of the drive to protect the write quality. |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2004
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review am I the only one interested in the fake MCC results? I think it's interesting to know how a drive handles fake MIDs especially since they are hard to avoid in certain parts of the world, drives such as the px-760a, liteons since 1635s and benq 1650 have features that would mitigate this to some degree, and it would be interesting to note how this drives (and others) would compare. |
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
I will be out of town tomorrow, but I will run some of the MIChina and MIHK MCC stuff and post it here for you, probably on Sunday. | |
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Raining to hard to Ride; so here are some "fake" media results: Drive - firmware: ASUS DRW-2014L1T 1.00 MID: Nexxtech (CircuitCity) DVD+R AML 003, Made in Hong Kong Burned with: CDSpeed Burned at: 16x Time: 6.06 The 2014L1T is installed via Galaxy eSTAT enclosure. Below is a capture of the Disc Info, Burn, Disc Quality, and TRT. http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment....1&d=1200163522 |
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Drive - firmware: ASUS DRW-2014L1T 1.00 MID: Dynex (BestBuy) DVD+R MCC004, Made in China Burned with: CDSpeed Burned at: 16x Time: 5:20 Nero CD-DVD Speed reports this media as made by Verbatim but that is tired to the MID and does not confirm that this media is or is not a True Verbatim product. The drop in Writing Speed is a feature of the Drive to ensure quality; this is the feed-back we received from the ASUS engineers. The 2014L1T is installed via Galaxy eSTAT enclosure. This time I will throw in a Burst Rate Test so you can see how this drive measures up when used in an external enclosure. http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment....1&d=1200167012 |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Western Australia
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review @The Kipper: No offense or anything, but as a reviewer at CD Freaks, you should realise that the slow-downs in the write curves are caused by the drive's OPC functions. Regards, TerminalVeloCD
__________________ TerminalVeloCD - ODD Enthusiast from Western Australia ASUS DRW-1608P, DRW-1608P3S, DRW-1814BL, DRW-1814BLT BenQ DW1620 Pro, DW1640, DW1650, DW1655 LG (HL-DT-ST) GSA-4163B, GSA-4167B, GSA-H10N, GSA-H22N, GH20NS10, GGC-H20L LiteON SOHW-1693S, LH-18A1P, LH-20A1P, DH20A4P NEC ND-2500A, ND-3500A, ND-3520A, ND-3540A Pioneer DVR-106D, DVR-107D, DVR-108, DVR-109, DVR-110D, DVR-111D, DVR-112D, DVR-212, DVR-115D, DVR-215, DVR-116D, DVR-216, BDR-101A, DVR-213LS Plextor PX-716A, PX-755SA, PX-760A, PX-760SA Shuttle CR40 Sony DRU-830A Sony NEC Optiarc AW-G170A, AW-G170S, AD-7200A, AD-7200S Samsung (SST Corp.) TS-H552U, SH-W162C, SH-S182D, SH-S203B, SH-S203D |
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| CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern California
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review No offense taken; just quoting what the ASUS engineers presented to us. We questioned ASUS since this drop in speed was occuring with virtually all media when burning at 20X. I understand the need for drive to reduce speed to ensure a more reliable burn, however, there was concern on my part that this happened with all media the drive reported to be writable at 20X. |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
I'd personally be interested to see how it does at slower speeds if anyone here has some scans (12x or lower).
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| CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
TYG03 @8X / 12X /16X and 20X OPTODISC @8X /12X MCC004 @8X / 16X CMC MAG E01 @8X The media I have are perfectly consistent with all my other burners , but this particular Asus "Always" produces lower quality burns (Higher PIE/PIF and way higher Jitter) . I will try to borrow it again after I return the borrowed Samsung 203D that I am testing against 203B ![]() On the bright side : It does quality scanning ![]() EDIT : Here are some scans : http://club.cdfreaks.com/f87/asus-dr...62/index2.html Note the burn with OPTODISC R016 media , jitter is too high and ALL my other burners produce jitter ~7.5% at the same speed
__________________ C2Q Q6600 L804@3.4 (426x8) 1.425 Bios (1.36 CPU-Z) Vcore with stock HSF ![]() Foxconn MARS A-Data 2x1GB EE 1066+ Gigabyte 8800GT TF @700-2100 Asus MW221C 22" Widescreen LCD 2x500GB WD SE16 Audigy2 ZS-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital HEC ACE 420 watt PSU Samsung 203B SB03 ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB Benq DW-2000@LiteOn 20A4P 9PV1 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media | |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Thanks for the link, I agree that your other burners produce better scans with their burns but to be honest, the Asus seemed to perform quite ok in those pics. I would be more than happy with some results like that. IMO, saying mediocre at best is a little harsh.
__________________ Best DVD media: Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R Ritek G05 media = My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L. |
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| CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Quote:
![]() I was just very angry because Asus stopped rebadging Pioneers and that was the "only" way to get Pioneer in Egypt ![]()
__________________ C2Q Q6600 L804@3.4 (426x8) 1.425 Bios (1.36 CPU-Z) Vcore with stock HSF ![]() Foxconn MARS A-Data 2x1GB EE 1066+ Gigabyte 8800GT TF @700-2100 Asus MW221C 22" Widescreen LCD 2x500GB WD SE16 Audigy2 ZS-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital HEC ACE 420 watt PSU Samsung 203B SB03 ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB Benq DW-2000@LiteOn 20A4P 9PV1 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media | |
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| New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2007
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review Is it really quiet?Could someone who owns this drive try it with cd bremse 1.47(free drive throttle utility,works with foobar!) and post the lowest dvd and cd read speed and percieved noise impressions?I would be most grateful ![]() |
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| CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008
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| Re: CDFreaks Presents: the Asus DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Multi Writer review That drive has a firmware update 1.01 "1. Improve burning quality" http://support.asus.com/download/dow...del=DRW-2014L1 |
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