CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing - Club CDFreaks

**Jan70** · 12-08-2005

You can find it here: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/219

Feel free to comment the "1st look" in this thread.

*mrQQ* · 13-08-2005

I don't feel comfortable about manufacturers handling out "new" drives which only bump up one spec. Have a decent read speads, decent cd-r write speeds, great compatibility, perhaps add scanning options, whole bitsetting package, -ram support? that's a new drive. I couldn't care less about 8X -R DL, if it's not packaged with more features, or at least way better compatibility or burn modes

*Bhairav* · 13-08-2005

1)Your 16X -R CDSpeed screencaps are weird, both are showing 11X end recording speeds. Both the Sony and Verbatim discs..

2)You got BSKB? Sweet! How is it?

*alexnoe* · 13-08-2005

What is a CD+RW on page 4?

Quote:

DVD+RW at 8x was not accomplished

Try Ricoh. Those are the only ones supported at 8x on the DVR-A09

*eric93se* · 13-08-2005

so where are the Ritek +DL tests? I'm assuming they failed miserably them?

the 110 seems to be an excellent drive though, benq has some competition now

. Oh and nice review Jan70

*steven2874* · 13-08-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by jan70

You can find it here: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/219

Feel free to comment the "1st look" in this thread.

Interesting that almost all the sites selling this drive list the following specs:

Maximum Write Speed:

16X CAV DVD-R / +R
8X Zone CLV DVD-R DL (Dual Layer), +R DL (Double Layer)
8x CLV DVD+RW
6X CLV DVD-RW
5X Zone CLV DVD-RAM
40X CAV CD-R
32X Zone CLV CD-RW
Maximum Read Speed:

16X CAV DVD-ROM (Single Layer)
12X CAV DVD-ROM (Dual Layer), DVD-R / +R
8X CAV DVD-RW / +RW, DVD-R DL and +R DL
5X Zone CLV DVD-RAM
40X CAV CD-ROM and CD-R
32X CAV CD-RW

And yes, this is what's listed for the 110-D version at ZipZoomFly and others, NOT the D-less 110.
False advertising or mere confusion?

*Scour* · 13-08-2005

Hello!

Great drive again from Pioneer

Please make very soon a review with many writing-quality-tests

timekillr · 14-08-2005

Hey, I'm a new member to this place..

Seems like I was lucky. I live in Canada, and this morning I went to the usual shop I go to to get myself some NICs for my new Linux server.

Much to my surprise, I saw a bunch of 110Ds there for sale at 70$ CDN. I figured it was time I got something to replace my 105, so I got it.

Seems like I was lucky (or something), since these drives are pretty new..

So far I'm liking it, and I can't wait till I can get my hands on updated firmware!

nwg · 14-08-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric93se

so where are the Ritek +DL tests? I'm assuming they failed miserably them?

I have been burning DL+R Ritek Datasafes for ages on a 109. I have never had a problem and can't understand why the 109 review had problems.

I am still pleased with my 109 and can't seem to see much difference, except for RAM writing on the future drive and 8x DL speeds.

*_chef_* · 14-08-2005

Thanks for this, jan70!

More and more scans coming up so we can have an idea of what quality the drive is able to perform.

**Jan70** · 14-08-2005

Verbatim DVD-R 8x:

*Scour* · 14-08-2005

Wow, thats a great scan

*[H]itman* · 14-08-2005

I was hoping Pioneer would offer bitsetting for SL media with their new drive. Don't guess they will ever offer it.

*cantankerous* · 14-08-2005

no, they have their own -R media too far up their arse and won't ever give a pooh about the +R camp.

**Jan70** · 14-08-2005

Some media that is not supported at its rated certified speed with the current firmware 1.08:

DVD+R:

BenQ DVD+R 8x (DAXON AZ2) is supported at max 4x
DataWrite Titanium DVD+R 8x (PRODISC R03 (003)) is supported at max 4x
Emgeton DVD+R 8x (INFOME R20) is supported at max 4x
FujiFilm DVD+R 16x (PHILIPS C16 (001)) is supported at max 4x
Memorex DVD+R 16x (CMC MAG M01) is supported at max 8x
MMORE DVD+R 16x (MBIPG101 R05) is supported at max 12x
Ricoh DVD+R 16x (RICOHJPN R03 (004)) is supported at max 12x
Swisstec DVD+R 8x (Plasmon1 C01) is supported at max 4x
Traxdata DVD+R 8x (RITEK R03 (001)) is supported at max 4x
Traxdata DVD+R 16x (RITEK R04) is supported at max 4x

DVD-R:

DataWrite Titanium DVD-R 8x (CMC MAG.AM3) is supported at max 4x
Emgeton DVD-R 8x (INFOMEDIAR20) is supported at max 4x
NewStar Digital DVD-R 8x (INFODISC-R20) is supported at max 4x
Samsung DVD-R 8x (OPTODISCR008) is supported at max 4x
Sky Media DVD-R 8x (Plasmon1A) is supported at 4x
Traxdata DVD-R 16x (RITEKF1) is supported at max 4x

**Jan70** · 16-08-2005

Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 16x:

**Jan70** · 16-08-2005

Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 8x @ 12x:

*Scour* · 16-08-2005

Great burns

*_chef_* · 16-08-2005

Yeah!

*Scour* · 17-08-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by jan70

Verbatim DVD-R 8x:

Made in ... ?

**OC-Freak** · 17-08-2005

According to what I've seen so far...

LMAO @ Pioneer.

Slower than the competition (NEC, BenQ) except for -R DL...
Very poor media compatibility compared to the competition...
Good writing quality, but that's equally good with the competition too...

This is a completely new drive, so I hoped Pioneer got it right this time - but it doesn't look like that. Looks like an 109 with 8x DL writing to me.

BeardedKirklander · 17-08-2005

Bah. It's all about the BenQ 1640.

**Jan70** · 17-08-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scour

Made in ... ?

Taiwan

**Jan70** · 17-08-2005

DVD+RW at 8x – accomplished with Ricoh media:

*_chef_* · 17-08-2005

Back to the facts: this scan looks nice.

12-08-2005	#1 (permalink)
Jan70 Administrator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA/Norway/Germany Posts: 1,261	CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing You can find it here: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/219 Feel free to comment the "1st look" in this thread. __________________ Intel® Core™2 Quad ASUS P5K-E/WIFI AP (Intel® P35 & ICH9R) with Infineon 2GB RAM and 550 Watt PSU My review PC – (click to view) To become a member of cdfreaks.com just click here to join *2 FAT 2 FLY !*

13-08-2005	#2 (permalink)
mrQQ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lithuania Posts: 731	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing I don't feel comfortable about manufacturers handling out "new" drives which only bump up one spec. Have a decent read speads, decent cd-r write speeds, great compatibility, perhaps add scanning options, whole bitsetting package, -ram support? that's a new drive. I couldn't care less about 8X -R DL, if it's not packaged with more features, or at least way better compatibility or burn modes __________________ who the heck knows what's QQuxa anyway;p

13-08-2005	#3 (permalink)
Bhairav CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bombay,India Posts: 1,297	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing 1)Your 16X -R CDSpeed screencaps are weird, both are showing 11X end recording speeds. Both the Sony and Verbatim discs.. 2)You got BSKB? Sweet! How is it? __________________ Q6600@3GHz\|Gigabyte 8800GT/Zalman Cooler Asus P5Q-E \| 4GB Powerchip DDR2-800 3TB HDD Pio DVR212 Benq 1655 \| Pio 111L Viewsonic vx2025wm

13-08-2005	#5 (permalink)
eric93se CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,864	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing so where are the Ritek +DL tests? I'm assuming they failed miserably them? the 110 seems to be an excellent drive though, benq has some competition now . Oh and nice review Jan70

13-08-2005	#7 (permalink)
Scour CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 888	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Hello! Great drive again from Pioneer Please make very soon a review with many writing-quality-tests __________________ cu Scour Toshiba SD-M 1712 Benq DW 1640 (New)

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14-08-2005	#8 (permalink)
timekillr New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Hey, I'm a new member to this place.. Seems like I was lucky. I live in Canada, and this morning I went to the usual shop I go to to get myself some NICs for my new Linux server. Much to my surprise, I saw a bunch of 110Ds there for sale at 70$ CDN. I figured it was time I got something to replace my 105, so I got it. Seems like I was lucky (or something), since these drives are pretty new.. So far I'm liking it, and I can't wait till I can get my hands on updated firmware!

14-08-2005	#10 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Bender's.Game] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,315	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Thanks for this, jan70! More and more scans coming up so we can have an idea of what quality the drive is able to perform. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

14-08-2005	#12 (permalink)
Scour CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 888	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Wow, thats a great scan __________________ cu Scour Toshiba SD-M 1712 Benq DW 1640 (New)

14-08-2005	#13 (permalink)
[H]itman CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US Posts: 916	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing I was hoping Pioneer would offer bitsetting for SL media with their new drive. Don't guess they will ever offer it. __________________ DVD+-RW: Pioneer: DVR-111 \| DVR-216D DVD+-RW: Lite-On: SHM-165P6S \| SOHW-832S DVD+-RW: BenQ: 1655 \| 1640 SCANS\| 1620 x 2 SCANS DVD+-RW: Plextor 716A - SCANS DVD+-RW: NEC ND-3500A READER: Lite-On SOHD-167T - Firmware=9S16 Patched by Codeguys READER: Lite-On SOHD-16P9S - Firmware=FS09 Patched

14-08-2005	#14 (permalink)
cantankerous CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 552	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing no, they have their own -R media too far up their arse and won't ever give a pooh about the +R camp.

14-08-2005	#15 (permalink)
Jan70 Administrator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA/Norway/Germany Posts: 1,261	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Some media that is not supported at its rated certified speed with the current firmware 1.08: DVD+R: BenQ DVD+R 8x (DAXON AZ2) is supported at max 4x DataWrite Titanium DVD+R 8x (PRODISC R03 (003)) is supported at max 4x Emgeton DVD+R 8x (INFOME R20) is supported at max 4x FujiFilm DVD+R 16x (PHILIPS C16 (001)) is supported at max 4x Memorex DVD+R 16x (CMC MAG M01) is supported at max 8x MMORE DVD+R 16x (MBIPG101 R05) is supported at max 12x Ricoh DVD+R 16x (RICOHJPN R03 (004)) is supported at max 12x Swisstec DVD+R 8x (Plasmon1 C01) is supported at max 4x Traxdata DVD+R 8x (RITEK R03 (001)) is supported at max 4x Traxdata DVD+R 16x (RITEK R04) is supported at max 4x DVD-R: DataWrite Titanium DVD-R 8x (CMC MAG.AM3) is supported at max 4x Emgeton DVD-R 8x (INFOMEDIAR20) is supported at max 4x NewStar Digital DVD-R 8x (INFODISC-R20) is supported at max 4x Samsung DVD-R 8x (OPTODISCR008) is supported at max 4x Sky Media DVD-R 8x (Plasmon1A) is supported at 4x Traxdata DVD-R 16x (RITEKF1) is supported at max 4x __________________ Intel® Core™2 Quad ASUS P5K-E/WIFI AP (Intel® P35 & ICH9R) with Infineon 2GB RAM and 550 Watt PSU My review PC – (click to view) To become a member of cdfreaks.com just click here to join *2 FAT 2 FLY !*

16-08-2005	#18 (permalink)
Scour CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 888	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Great burns __________________ cu Scour Toshiba SD-M 1712 Benq DW 1640 (New)

16-08-2005	#19 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Bender's.Game] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,315	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Yeah! __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

17-08-2005	#21 (permalink)
OC-Freak Senior Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cdfreaks review lab - Norway Posts: 5,663	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing According to what I've seen so far... LMAO @ Pioneer. Slower than the competition (NEC, BenQ) except for -R DL... Very poor media compatibility compared to the competition... Good writing quality, but that's equally good with the competition too... This is a completely new drive, so I hoped Pioneer got it right this time - but it doesn't look like that. Looks like an 109 with 8x DL writing to me. __________________ I'm a real freak in many aspects!

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17-08-2005	#22 (permalink)
BeardedKirklander CD Freak Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,949	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Bah. It's all about the BenQ 1640.

17-08-2005	#25 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Bender's.Game] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,315	Re: CDFreaks' "first look" at the Pioneer DVR-110D with 8x DL writing Back to the facts: this scan looks nice. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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