Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem - Club CDFreaks

vtchaser · 28-05-2007

I have always had speed issues with this burner. Today I tested the speed with Nero CD-DVD speed and I could not even finish the test as it was going to take over an hour. It got about halfway finished with an avg speed of 0.96X.

Also, even though it takes a long time, I have still managed to burn a good amount of discs and about 1 out of 3 will not play in any of my players. I have been using Taiyo Yuden DVD-R's. And the main player that i use is a LiteOn LVW-5115ghc+.

Firmware update? Bad burner?

vtchaser · 28-05-2007

Also, I am completely new to updating firmware. I have read that I need a program called Binflash and I have dl'd it. How do i determine which firmware is what i need for my burner/problem?

*_chef_* · 28-05-2007

First, make sure DMA mode 2 is enabled.

Also a warning about updating slimline drives, it can be dangerous. Read more:
http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/de/NEC-ND-6750A/

Which firmware is on the drive?

vtchaser · 28-05-2007

Firmware is 2.01.

I went to device manager, IDE ATA/APAPI controllers, and the primary and secondary controllers both say DMA if available. I don't see an option to change it on the Intel 82801CAM ultra ATA storage controlle-248A. Is that how you make sure DMA mode 2 is enabled?

*_chef_* · 28-05-2007

Then you have IAA running?

I would stay with a 2.01 firmware, one of them.

vtchaser · 28-05-2007

I'm not sure what you mean by IAA. How do I check that? If you mean IDE/ATA/APAPI then yea i think its running bc it says the primary and secondary controllers are working properly.

This is driving me crazy

vtchaser · 29-05-2007

I just flashed the 2.01 firmware (the same firmware the comes with it) and it didn't make any improvements. Should i try a different version? Or is that probably not the problem?

**Arachne** · 29-05-2007

You said your IDE channels said "DMA if available" in Device Manager...what's the Current Transfer Mode?

Also - IAA = Intel Application Accelerator.

vtchaser · 29-05-2007

Primary device 0: Ultra DMA Mode 5
Primary device 1: PIO Mode

Secondary device 0: Not applicable
Secondary device 1: Not applicable

**Arachne** · 29-05-2007

Ouch, PIO mode.

"Primary Device 1" - is that your burner? If it is, right click it, click "Uninstall", reboot and let Windows re-detect it.

That should put it into the correct DMA mode.

vtchaser · 29-05-2007

how do i tell if that is my burner? Sorry about my noobish self

**Arachne** · 29-05-2007

Do you only have one Primary and one Secondary channel?

If so, Device 1 on the Primary channel will be your burner

vtchaser · 29-05-2007

yea only 1 channel for each

vtchaser · 29-05-2007

so uninstall the channel?

**Arachne** · 29-05-2007

No, just the "Device 1" on your Primary channel. Then reboot

vtchaser · 29-05-2007

ok it has now changed to Ultra DMA mode 2. The burning now caps out at 4.1X and after the burning process is done it doesn't seem like there has been anything written to the disc. My computer just sees it as a blank disc.

*_chef_* · 29-05-2007

Then burn with VERIFY enabled.

**Arachne** · 29-05-2007

Keep an eye on this thread about NEC read problems - a lot of people seem to be experiencing similar things, and they might come up with a fix in there.

vtchaser · 30-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by _chef_

Then burn with VERIFY enabled.

ok just did that, it burns, then when it gets to verifying it freezes at 1% and doesn't budge.

vtchaser · 30-05-2007

should i just give up and get a new burner?

28-05-2007	#1 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I have always had speed issues with this burner. Today I tested the speed with Nero CD-DVD speed and I could not even finish the test as it was going to take over an hour. It got about halfway finished with an avg speed of 0.96X. Also, even though it takes a long time, I have still managed to burn a good amount of discs and about 1 out of 3 will not play in any of my players. I have been using Taiyo Yuden DVD-R's. And the main player that i use is a LiteOn LVW-5115ghc+. Firmware update? Bad burner?

28-05-2007	#2 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Also, I am completely new to updating firmware. I have read that I need a program called Binflash and I have dl'd it. How do i determine which firmware is what i need for my burner/problem?

28-05-2007	#3 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 23,950	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem First, make sure DMA mode 2 is enabled. Also a warning about updating slimline drives, it can be dangerous. Read more: http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/de/NEC-ND-6750A/ Which firmware is on the drive? __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

28-05-2007	#4 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Firmware is 2.01. I went to device manager, IDE ATA/APAPI controllers, and the primary and secondary controllers both say DMA if available. I don't see an option to change it on the Intel 82801CAM ultra ATA storage controlle-248A. Is that how you make sure DMA mode 2 is enabled?

28-05-2007	#5 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 23,950	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Then you have IAA running? I would stay with a 2.01 firmware, one of them. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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28-05-2007	#6 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem I'm not sure what you mean by IAA. How do I check that? If you mean IDE/ATA/APAPI then yea i think its running bc it says the primary and secondary controllers are working properly. This is driving me crazy

29-05-2007	#7 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem I just flashed the 2.01 firmware (the same firmware the comes with it) and it didn't make any improvements. Should i try a different version? Or is that probably not the problem?

29-05-2007	#8 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 23,918	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem You said your IDE channels said "DMA if available" in Device Manager...what's the Current Transfer Mode? Also - IAA = Intel Application Accelerator. __________________ Current drives: Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

29-05-2007	#9 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Primary device 0: Ultra DMA Mode 5 Primary device 1: PIO Mode Secondary device 0: Not applicable Secondary device 1: Not applicable

29-05-2007	#10 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 23,918	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Ouch, PIO mode. "Primary Device 1" - is that your burner? If it is, right click it, click "Uninstall", reboot and let Windows re-detect it. That should put it into the correct DMA mode. __________________ Current drives: Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

29-05-2007	#11 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem how do i tell if that is my burner? Sorry about my noobish self

29-05-2007	#12 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 23,918	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Do you only have one Primary and one Secondary channel? If so, Device 1 on the Primary channel will be your burner __________________ Current drives: Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

29-05-2007	#13 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem yea only 1 channel for each

29-05-2007	#14 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem so uninstall the channel?

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29-05-2007	#15 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 23,918	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem No, just the "Device 1" on your Primary channel. Then reboot __________________ Current drives: Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

29-05-2007	#16 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem ok it has now changed to Ultra DMA mode 2. The burning now caps out at 4.1X and after the burning process is done it doesn't seem like there has been anything written to the disc. My computer just sees it as a blank disc.

29-05-2007	#17 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 23,950	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Then burn with VERIFY enabled. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

29-05-2007	#18 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 23,918	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem Keep an eye on this thread about NEC read problems - a lot of people seem to be experiencing similar things, and they might come up with a fix in there. __________________ Current drives: Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

30-05-2007	#20 (permalink)
vtchaser New on Forum Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Re: Problem with ND-6750a v.Low speed and burning problem should i just give up and get a new burner?