I wanted the best of both worlds

Dee-27: The patcher is meant only for my firmware.. but there is no limit in the patcher that prevents patching other firmwares too. =)

rolling56: Write Power.. experimental feature in the upgraded patcher.

bilemke: It's not only my decision. Somwhere in the future there will be a patcher released to public however. A patcher must be easy to use.. the current one isn't and it also doesn't support all the features so it's rather useless as you can't even change the supported speed.

Guess i missed out on the upgraded one lol Can i have upgraded one please?

I just hope this patcher won't get killed in a "Mine"-"Yours"-"NEC´s" firmware war...

Sorry Dee, I also used "your" (LD) firmware on this patcher. Hope you don't mind.

pinto2 > You left out Maddog...... And ditto

It was a simple question i put, which was answered. Absolutely no need for you to try and read something more into it than there was.

LOL!

It seems I started quite something

But when loading a LD firmware in the patcher, one can notice that it's already heavily been modified, so it's not advisable to do strat swaps. You never know what will be the side effects. Therefore, I only used it to adjust the WP. This seems pretty safe to do. Still be carefull, though!

CMC MAG E01 Squirrel strats

Base firmware: Quikee V3B3R4

CMC MAG E01 -> Philips C08 (4x-8x)
CMC MAG E01 -> MCC02RG20 (10x-12x)
CMC MAG E01 -> YUDEN000T02 (14x-16x)

MID: CMC MAG E01
Brand: 1st TDK, 2nd ESA
Type: DVD+R 8x
Write speed: 16x
Written as: Create Data Disc

I always wanted to test these at 16x. Well not good at all. Oh well. 12x it is. The ESA (Circuit City brand) seems to be the better of the 2.

I'm also maxing them at 12x now. Most Infinity's burn well at 16x, but some don't and I don't want to take the risk. Besides, the speed gain is only a few secs....

Did you get a chance to play with the write power at 12x-16x on your CMC MAG E01's?

Yes I did. With about the same results: on the discs that burned well at 16x, the mountain was lower than usual, but every once in a while a disc failed at 16x. That means, it wasn't a coaster, but the AOPC dropped the speed to 6x or even 4x for the last part of the disc, causing so much overhead time that the speed gain of the higher max. speed was lost completely. In other words: when a 12x burn always succeeds without problems or speed slowdowns, it's way faster than a problematic 16x burn!

I get the idea that in the case of problems, the AOPC drops to the lowest specified speed for that media at once. It would be nice if it was a multi-stage speed drop, starting at the first lower speed and then further down if the problems stay. That means, for a 16x burn failing at 16x, the speed should drop to 14x first, then to 12x, and so on...

Bump! Anybody still playing around with the patcher?

Quikee, how's progress going on the patcher, did you have any time to spend on development lately?

Not anymore, it's for the 3500 drive and not for my 3520 drive

Quikee, any update about the patcher? Are you still working on it, or on a 3520/30/40 version, or did you have to suspend the whole project?

This thread/project has been dead for ages - unfortunately. I really thought Quikee would do what LD never wanted to do - but I guess we'll never see any public patcher for the NEC drives. Too bad IMHO.

@Quikee
Could you enlighten us please. Why did you decide to stop further development of the patcher?? Did NEC threaten you? Or maybe LD???

No NEC didn't threatened me neither LD. I just lost interest in making a patcher.. also making a stable fool proof patcher for public isn't a easy job and I lack of knowledge about the Nec firmware. Liggy could do it but he just isn't interested and LD firmwares are so good we really don't need a patcher.. or my firmwares. I'm also working on a other project that is more interesting for me.

I'm not sure if I could do it. My current patcher was the best way I could write such a program. Maybe I could improve it a bit further, but I don't think it would ever be possible to create a completely fool proof piece of software. Plus I'm absolutely bad when it comes to writing GUI applications and many people don't even now how to handle stuff on the commandline.

I'm currently writing some routines that try to find some more information in NEC firmwares and allow an easy way to change some values again. But progress is very slow at the moment (it's too warm here), so it will probably take quite some time to finish - if it will ever finish at all.

OK, thanx for the update, Quikee and Liggy! I would be very pleased if there ever will be a finished patcher, but if it's not possible, so be it! Thanks for all your efforts!

(Maybe it's an idea to co-operate? Quikee seems to be pretty good at the GUI and Liggy can supply the knowledge he's lacking...)

Good idea Squirrel and maybe I can host the program on my site

Quikee and I both have some space on CDFreaks' servers. So the main place would probably be here, of course you could mirror the files.

But it will probably still take quite some time to finish everything that's needed.

@liggy
we have time
if we could wait for the new firmware for the 3500ag then we could wait for the patcher