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| New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2005
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| Firmware problem, have tried everything I upgraded the firmware on my 6100a drive (IBM FRU 92P6110) to 2.23 from tdb site and now Windows sees it as a standard CDROM drive. I have tried the drive in several IBM laptops all with the same results. The drive is not detected on boot, and Windows does not recognize it properly. I have loaded DOS onto a USB key, and have been trying to change the firmware that way, once I am in dos the drive is not recognized, if I run the "Normal" package it reports "the drive already has the latest firmware" and DOS then recognizes the drive. I cannot upgrade/downgrade the firmware, any flashing program reports that there was an error and the opperation timed out. Does anyone have any suggestions? I just bought this drive, and only have a few days to return it.. |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything When running nec6x00a.exe -sec -mas -flash I receive the error "Drive not responding correctly". The drive light then flashes off and on, and I cannot eject the drive and when I attempt to flash again the drive is not recognized. |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
Is this the correct commandline??
__________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. 'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR] Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon ***HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!*** If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH. | |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Try the win32 gui version of Binflash. If the firmware doesn't match your drive you should get an error message.
__________________ You need to flash or dump your NEC DVD burner firmwares on your Mac, Windows, DOS or Linux machine? Just try Binflash. Visit Liggy's and Dee's Optiarc and NEC firmware and tools page for all kind of information about NEC and Optiarc drives. Unrequested PM about drive problems will not be answered! |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
The I get the same error when I boot to DOS, run Normal, and then try binflash. Only NEC6x00a.exe finds my drive once I've run Normal. I bought this off Ebay off a knowledgeable user, so returning it and saying "it's broken" won't work.. I'm willing to put a "bounty" on this (paypal) as I need to get this fixed, or at least back to reporting as a 6100a so I can return it.. I'm at your mercy | |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie]
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
How it is recognized in Devicemanager?
__________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. 'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR] Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon ***HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!*** If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH. | |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything I have tracked down a copy of the original firmware (v1.01) and attempted to flash again using nec6x00a.exe in DOS. Again the program recognizes the drive, starts flashing, and then reports "The drive did not respond correctly" (the drive light then flashes forever). Binflash does not recognize the drive, so that's not an option. Are there any other flashing programs that may work? |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Try to delete the IDE controller and let Windows redetect it. I remember reading that somewhere.
__________________ M$ Windows XP SP3 & Vista SP1 LiteOn SOHD-16P9S Fw FS0J NEC ND-2100A@2510A Fw 2.0A NEC ND-6750A Fw 2.42 NEC AD-7170A Fw 1.05 NEC AD-7170S Fw 1.03 NEC AD-7590A Fw 1.01 Plextor PX-W1210TA TLA#0202 Fw 1.10 ![]() Plextor Premium TLA#0005 Fw 1.06 ![]() Plextor PX-708A TLA#0204 Fw 1.12 ![]() Plextor PX-716UF TLA#0306 Fw 1.11 ![]() |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
http://www.mottie.com/tmp/NEC6100a.JPG is how the registry is reporting it. After deleting all references to NEC from the registry, the drive is now recognized properly. I then run binflash and the drive isn't recognized. Screenshot = http://www.mottie.com/tmp/NEC6100a2.JPG is Last edited by jmot; 27-09-2005 at 23:59. Reason: new info | |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Perhaps your ND-6100 drive needs to be changed (using the NEC Drive Converter) to a ND-6500 before flashing the firmware? Either that or try one of Liggy's ND-6500 2.xx firmwares. Also it's kind of weird that you have two entries under the ND-6500 in the registry. Is this possibly the master/slave issue?
__________________ M$ Windows XP SP3 & Vista SP1 LiteOn SOHD-16P9S Fw FS0J NEC ND-2100A@2510A Fw 2.0A NEC ND-6750A Fw 2.42 NEC AD-7170A Fw 1.05 NEC AD-7170S Fw 1.03 NEC AD-7590A Fw 1.01 Plextor PX-W1210TA TLA#0202 Fw 1.10 ![]() Plextor Premium TLA#0005 Fw 1.06 ![]() Plextor PX-708A TLA#0204 Fw 1.12 ![]() Plextor PX-716UF TLA#0306 Fw 1.11 ![]() |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
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__________________ You need to flash or dump your NEC DVD burner firmwares on your Mac, Windows, DOS or Linux machine? Just try Binflash. Visit Liggy's and Dee's Optiarc and NEC firmware and tools page for all kind of information about NEC and Optiarc drives. Unrequested PM about drive problems will not be answered! | ||
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything After hotplugging the drive in windows DiscInfo (http://hijacker.rpc1.org/discinfo/) reports that there are no cdrom drives present. I have ordered a slimline IDE adapter from Ebay it should arrive in the next 3 weeks. I will reboot to dos and see what "Binflash -scan -v -v" reports as soon as I can. It's a bit of a pain because my T21 doesn't support boot from USB, so I have to take the drive and my USB thumb drive to another machine. Is there a way to boot from my slimline dvdrom/floppy drive and then do a hotswap in dos? |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
__________________ You need to flash or dump your NEC DVD burner firmwares on your Mac, Windows, DOS or Linux machine? Just try Binflash. Visit Liggy's and Dee's Optiarc and NEC firmware and tools page for all kind of information about NEC and Optiarc drives. Unrequested PM about drive problems will not be answered! | |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything Quote:
necflash.exe -scan -v -v Binflash - NEC version - (C) by Herrie and Liggy Visit http://binflash.cdfreaks.com - http://www.herrie.org List of supported devices: Trying to open device \\.\C: ... Trying to open device \\.\Z: No supported devices found But when I put a cdrom in the drive and access the data, the drive is found. Trying to query device \\.\D: Device : D: Vendor : _NEC Model : DVD+-RW ND-6500A Firmware : 2.23 This only works during the autorun, if I let the drive spin down it ceases to exist. | |
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| Re: Firmware problem, have tried everything While the drive was autorunning I managed to get it flashed back to it's original firmware! I haven't been able to burn a DVD yet, the FujiFilm DVD+R that I have here is detected as type "CDROM". Hopefully it's just crappy media. I have successfully burned a CD-R, so I'm better off than I was before. Discinfo Results: DISCINFO VERSION : 1.5.5.9 VENDOR : _NEC MODEL : DVD+RW ND-6100A REVISION : 1.01 VENDOR SPECIFIC : 04031200 LOADING MECHANISM : Tray NUMBER VOL. LEVELS : 256 BUFFER SIZE : 2048KB INTERFACE : ATAPI RPC2 SCHEME : YES STATUS : Not Set USER CHANGES : 5 VENDOR CHANGES : 4 CURRENT REGION : Not set ANALOG AUDIO PLAY : YES COMPOSITE OUTPUT : NO DIGITAL PORT-PORT1 : NO DIGITAL PORT-PORT2 : NO READ UPC CODE : YES MULTISESSION READ : YES MODE 2 FORM 1 : YES MODE 2 FORM 2 : YES READ ISRC CODE : YES READ BAD CODE : NO BUFFER UNDER-RUN : YES MT. RAINIER : NO CAN READ CDR : YES CAN READ CDRW : YES CAN READ CDRM2 : YES CAN WRITE CDR : YES CAN WRITE CDRW : YES CAN TEST WRITE : YES CAN READ DVD-ROM : YES CAN READ DVD-R : YES CAN READ DVD-RW : YES CAN READ DVD-RAM : NO CAN READ DVD+R : YES CAN READ DVD+RW : YES CAN WRITE DVD-R : NO CAN WRITE DVD-RW : NO CAN WRITE DVD-RAM : NO CAN WRITE DVD+R : YES CAN WRITE DVD+RW : YES MAX CDR READ SPEED : 24 MAX CDR WRITE SPEED: 24 Last edited by jmot; 29-09-2005 at 23:32. Reason: CD-R works |
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