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| New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2003
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| Has anyone tried recode2 to burn a dual layer+ disc.The burn speed is greyed out to max and not able to set a speed.Does anyone know a fix or is there one.Recode burns great for 1st layer then speeds up and then heaps of errors.I would love to be able to control the burn speed manually. Any help apreciated' |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maine
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed I've only used recode2 a couple of times for DLs, it was ok, but certainly not my first choice...I used it just to send data to VSO (they're in the process of improving the LB issue in the future release of Fab). IMHO, dvd decrypter in combo with AnyDVD and Img for the burn, is the best choice for DLs...flawless bkup everytime... Anyway, the write speed is greyed out on recode2 for me as well. I'm pretty sure all DL media is rated for 2.4X. The only decent DL media is verbatim, which generally burns at 2.4X. I just looked at the burnlog on recode2 and it apparently burned at 4X. The bkup plays just fine...I had no problems at all. I'm sorry, I know this isn't much help; I'll be happy to post the burnlog if you wish.
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Hi Maineman It would be better if the area for burn speed was not greyed out.I hope nero people could do something about it. My media was verbatim 2.4x and it burned at a very high speed on 2nd layer which caused it to have more errors.I would prefer same speed throughout the burn and to be able to select the speed I want manually. I like the imageburn way too but would like to choose movie only burns which nero can do. Please nero do a fix for this issue as you can do it with most other programs. I have sent a email off to Nero and awaiting a repy. thanks Dennis |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maine
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Agree...nero's support has deteriorated markedy over the past couple of years and v. 7.* is very buggy, or so I hear. I have version 6.6.0.14 and have no problems with it. Also agree with you re: main movie option and DLs...which is one more reason that I use fab. They're working on one more minor issue with the LB and then it should be a one click process for a DL burn, main movie or complete disc... ![]()
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed hi Maineman thanks for the info on fab will keep an eye on it. I havent received a reply from Nero yet.Not expecting to get one from them. I will let you know if they bother to answer thanks dennis |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Hi all Had a reply from nero--great They wanted a whole lotta stuff---logs etc. I have sent a reply just asking if you can set the burn speed manually in nero recode---a simple question really. Will await their reply thanks |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed I have had a reply from nero and was told to update nero 6 to later version. Tried that still no luck.Nero techs wont answer my question so have sent yet again for the umteen time.Not gettting the answer I have plainly been asking --so have sent another asking.Getting sick of their run around. Here is my last reply to them. This has not fixed the burn speed issue that I have been talking for weeks with you about. I am finding more and more people having the same issue. You cannot adjust the speed on dual layer discs with your program recode2. --period. Mine burns at 8x when the discs is only 2.4x PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION I KEEP ASKING---- DOES NERO RECODE2 ALLOW FOR MANAUL BURNING SPEED CONTROL LAYER MODE. ![]() |
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| CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Recode does allow manual burn speed setting for dual layer DVDs, just like for all other discs. It seems in your case the burner has trouble correctly identifying the disc. You could try the following and see if it makes any difference: - use different media (manufacturer, max. speed, etc.) - upgrade burner firmware - use a different burner |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Hi cinemascope I have tried both my pioneer and benq burners and both have the same issue. I have seen others with the same problem with the speed burn area greyed out. Is yours not greyed and able to select the speed when dvd-9 0r 8.5gig selected. I would be very intested in knowing what burner you are using and what media. I am using verbatim DL 2.4x thanks |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed I have used Verbatim media (2.4x and 8x) on an NEC burner. I did not actually start the burn process, I just checked if the combo box worked, and it did, for both media. The available selection did not 100% match the max. specified burn speed, though. E.g. for the 8x medium I could only select "Maximum", "4x" and "2.4x" ("Maximum" means the maximum for the respective medium, so in this case "4x"). I will do some test burns next week. The Recode version was 2.3.0.8, btw. |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Hi Guys, just tried nero express to burn but not luck with the burning speeds again. Think nero is screwing up after updates now. Still no reply from nero about the recode and burning speed issues in recode2. I only asked a simple yes or no ---does recode allow manual burn speed for dual layer discs. God how difficult is that for them.Its been weeks emails back and forth to them and they wont answer this simple question. I was going to update to version 7 but heard there is plenty of bugs in that too by responses here. Starting to get rather peeved with them now. |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed The best answer to your question for now is "yes, but...". More specifically: NeroAPI detects the burn speeds which are allowed for the inserted media and gives you only those to choose from in Recode. However, this detection can go wrong sometimes (depending on drive/firmware/media combination), causing problems like the one I mentioned (8x not being available when it should be). As far as I know, there is no possibility at the moment to force a burn speed which has not been detected. Btw. I work at Nero, so you can take this as a semi-official answer for now, if you like... :-) Anyway, I will try to investigate further. |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Thanks Cinemascope, Very much appreciated on your input. The problem is my media is verbatim 2.4x which is very common and very good quality and I would like it to burn at a maximiun of 4x. This I have found is the best with other burning software. With nero recode the speed setting is greyed out so not able to do anything. When I look at the burning log it does it at 8x on the 2nd layer. The first layer burns slow and an excellent 99% on nero cd speed. The second layer burn speeds up and you can hear drive speed up. The errors start mounting fast then. I really like recode2 and see this as the only issue for me. I have 2 dvd burners a benq 1640 and a pioneer. Hope this will be of some help. |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Some additional info I could use: Windows version, exact version of Nero, Recode and NeroAPI.dll and exact burner model info (including firmware revision). And could you please try some other media (both single and dual layer, from different manufacturers, if possible) and report for which media the combo box is and is not greyed out. |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed I just tried burning a Verbatim 2.4x DVD+RW DL in the BenQ DD DW1640. The combo box was not greyed out in Recode 2.3.0.8, although I could select up to 8x as burn speed, which is probably due to buggy firmware. Burning worked fine with 2.4x, though, without any speedup on the second layer. |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Hi Cinemascope, here is my version of nero. Ahead Software AG - Nero BackItUp Restore Version 1, 2, 0, 61 * Ahead Software AG - Nero BackItUp Scheduler Version 1, 2, 0, 61 * Ahead Software AG - Nero BackItUp Version 1, 2, 0, 61 * Ahead Software AG - Nero Burning ROM Version 6, 6, 1, 4 * Ahead Software AG - Nero MediaHome Version 1, 3, 0, 4 * Ahead Software AG - Nero Photosnap image editor Version 1, 1, 0, 6 * Ahead Software AG - Nero Photosnap Viewer Version 1, 1, 0, 6 * Ahead Software AG - Nero Recode 2 Version 2, 2, 6, 17b * Ahead Software AG - Nero StartSmart Version 2, 1, 0, 5 * Ahead Software Gmbh NeroCheck Version 1, 0, 0, 2 * ahead - Nero - Burning Rom 1A20-0203- ahead - Nero Fast CD-Burning Plug-in 1A20-0203- ahead - NeroVision 1A20-0203- MY BURNERS ARE BENQ DVD DD DW1640 PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 All single layer media is not greyed out will get some more info thanks dennis |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed Hi Guys Thanks cinemascope for your insight and help. I have tried recode2 in nero7 and all is fine. You were indeed spot on in what you said. I am very disappointed in the tech at nero not knowing this or denying it.I have had many emails from them saying its my burners\firmware etc. My friend has exactly the same problem on his computer like many others using nero 6. This has gone back and forth for weeks not even acknologing that I have no burn speed at all--just blanked out.I have told him many times I have changed firmware numerous times on both drives. Funny now that same drives same media same firmware and now works fine with nero7 Here is the latest response from him which doesnt shed good light on the technical responses that has been given. Dear valued customer, thank you for your email and your interest in our software. Yes it is possible to change the burn speed in Nero Recode2. But Nero Recode just displays the write speeds which are both supported by the recorder and the disc you use. So if a certain write speed isn't displayed, you either have to use another type of disc or you have to upgrade the firmware of your recorder. Please contact the manufacturer of the recorder in order to get the latest firmware for your recorder. An old firmware can cause compatibility problems as well as burn failures. Firmware upgrades for your recorder are provided only by the Manufacturer of your recorder. All firmware upgrades and support for upgrading your recorders firmware must be provided by either the recorder manufacturer or the OEM you purchased your recorder bundle from. We can not assist you in this, sorry. For example if you have a Yamaha Recorder, you would go to the www.yamaha.com website in order to obtain the latest firmware for your recorder and instructions on how to upgrade your recorders firmware. Same goes for all other recorder manufacturers, such as Sony, Pioneer, LG, etc... To determine what kind of recorder you have, assuming you do not know for sure, you can use our Nero InfoTool to obtain this information. To locate the Nero Info Tool, follow the steps below. For Nero Burning ROM 6 or Nero Express 6 go to: 'Start->All Programs->Nero->Nero ToolKit->Nero InfoTool' For Nero Burning Rom 5.5 or Nero Express 5.5 go to: 'Start->All Programs->Ahead Nero->Nero ToolKit->Nero InfoTool' Once Nero InfoTool is launched, make sure your recorder is selected in the top left of the window. Use the drop-down box located there to select your recorder or any recorder. Once selected, it displays the manufacturer as well as the model of the recorder you have. Be sure to make a note of this. Also, once you have your recorder selected, you can click on the 'DRIVE' tab and in the top right of this window you will see the current firmware version (among other information) you have on your recorder. Compare this version with the latest firmware provided by the manufacturer of your recorder and upgrade if available. Legal disclaimer: "Nero AG is not liable for firmware updates as these updates are not offered by Nero AG. All updates are performed at ones own risk. Nero AG will not be liable for the legality of the firmware." Should you have any other request, please don't hesitate to contact us again. Best regards Marco Jäckle Technical Support Nero AG Im Stoeckmaedle 18 76307 Karlsbad Germany Fax : ++49 (0)7248 928 499 http://www.nero.com |
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed You can just burn to a image recorder (IE image file) to your hard drive instead of directly to your DVD recorder with recode2 (nero6). then open Nero burning rom (or Imgburn for that matter) and choose your image file then set the speed you want to burn at and burn.
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| Re: recode2 and dual layer cant set burn speed hi Jamos I wanted to burn movie only. I wanted to be able to control the burn speed consistently throughout the burning process. When media is placed it gives you the options to your burn speed ie:-2.4x 4x 8x etc. This is the problem with version 6 nero. Now I have loaded nero7 the burn speeds are present to select. The burn went smoothly all the way through. This solved my problem which cinemascope was right about and many thanks to him. |
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