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Old 12-11-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Media compatibility: bad results

I would like to use this thread for all reports of bad burning experiences.

If possible, please keep your message short and to the point.

I propose a standard format, so we can all find the relevant data easily.

For example:

Brand name: DataWrite
Media type: DVD-R 4X
MID code: PRINCO
Firmware used: V0045
Burn software used: Nero 5.5.10.33
Write contents: DVD movie (The Matrix)
Number of media tried: 3 pcs.
Burn result: 3X write error
Verification result: 3X unreadable
Verification program: CD Speed 2.10


Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.

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Benq DVD-R for General

Brand name: Benq
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: Sony
Firmware used: V0043 + V0045
Burn software used: DVD-Clone 1.3.10
Write contents: Movie
Speed: 1x - 2x
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn result: 1X write errror
Verification result: 1X unreadable
Verification program: CD Speed 1.02g
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MMore DVD-R

Brand name: MMore
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: EuroDig-Disc
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: DVD-Clone 1.3.10
Write contents: Movie
Speed: 1x - 2x
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn result: 1X write errror
Verification result: 1X unreadable
Verification program: CD Speed 1.02g
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Princo DVD-R 1-4X

Brand name: Princo 1-4X
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: PRINCO (4XH6924U0495)
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.19
Write contents: DVD movies
Number of media tried: 9 pcs.
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: all failed
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a

Media works OK with firmware 0039!

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Datamart DVD-R 1-4X

Brand name: Datamart DVD-R 1-4X
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: Not present on disc
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.19
Write contents: DVD movies
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: failed - power calibration error
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a
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MAXdisc DVD-R

Brand name: MAXdisc DVD-R 1-2X
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: Not present on disc
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.19
Write contents: DVD movies
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn speed: 2X
Burn result: failed - power calibration error
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a
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Princo DVD-RW Ver.1.1

Brand name: Princo DVD-RW 1x Ver.1.1
Media type: DVD-RW
MID code: Princo
Firmware used: V0045
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: Data DVD
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn speed: 1X
Burn result: sems to be ok but than non readable ?
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a
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Brand name: MEGA Ritek G04 "The One"
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: RITEKG04
Firmware used: V0039 / 43 / 45
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: Movies
Speed: 1x - 4x
Number of media tried: 7 pcs.
Burn speeds tested: 1X, 2X and 4X
Burn result: All 7 failed while writing Lead-In
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a
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Brand name: Princo
Media type: DVD-R (Serial: 4XPB03X40006792-23198)
MID code: PRINCO
Firmware used: V0039 / 43 / 45
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: Data
Speed: 1x - 4x
Number of media tried: 13 pcs.
Burn speeds tested: 1X, 2X and 4X
Burn result: 8 failed while writing Lead-In and 5 have about 80% of inaccesible files.
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a
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Brand name: PrimeOn
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: AN31
Firmware used: V0039 / 43 / 45
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: Data
Speed: 1x - 4x
Number of media tried: 5 pcs.
Burn speeds tested: 2X and 4X
Burn result: All 5 failed while writing Lead-In
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a
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Brand name: Verbatim DataLifePlus
Media type: DVD+R
MID code: MCC
Firmware used: 0043 and 0045
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: Data
Speed: 1x - 4x
Number of media tried: 5 pcs.
Burn speeds tested: 4X
Burn result: 3 failed (inaccessible files at disk end), 2 worked ok
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a

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Brand name: Mistai CD-RW 650Mb
Media type: CD-ReWritable
ATIP: 97m 26s 65f
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corp.
Assumed Dye type: Phthalocyanine (Type 5)
Recording Speeds reported: min. 2X - max. 2X
nominal Capacity: 658.89MB (75m 00s 00f / LBA: 337350)

Firmware used: V0045
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: Data CD
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: sems to be ok but than the disk is unreadable
Second verification tell us the disk is empty.
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a

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Memorex DVD+RW 1-4X

Brand name: Memorex DVD+RW 1-4X
Media type: DVD+RW
MID code: PHILIPS.041
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23
Write contents: DVD movie
Number of media tried: 1
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: OK
Verification result: Unreadable in other DVD-ROM drive
Verification program: K's DVD Probe 1.1.26
Comment: The Probe scan clearly shows bad write strategy for this media
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Medianca DVD-R (MID: PRODISCG02)

Brand name: Medianca
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: PRODISCG02
Firmware used: v0043 and v0045
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23; Nero 5.5.10.49; NTI CD & DVD Maker v6
Write contents: data and movies
Number of media tried: 11 pcs.
Burn result: 1X and 2X OK
Verification result: lot of errors by the end of the DVDs
Verification program: Nero CD-DVD Speed 2.10.2


** INFO : DVDRW IDE1004 [FW 0045]
** INFO : [DVD-R:PRODISCG02]
** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 2770 KBPS (2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 1385 KBPS (1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
Descriptor #1 = 2770 KBPS (2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 1385 KBPS (1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 50 00 02 87 0d 13 88 99 80 00 .@....P.........
0010 : 03 50 52 4f 44 49 53 00 04 43 47 30 32 00 00 00 .PRODIS..CG02...
0020 : 05 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
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Old 03-12-2003   #15 (permalink)
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Noctulo,

Can you please use FILE TEST, instead of SURFACE SCAN, and then show the result.

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For Marco

Is this OK ???
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LG 1-4x

Brand name: Lg 1-4X
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: d0820 1002GM1 01 B-1 486884
Firmware used: V0045
Burn software used: Clonr DVD 1.3.10.1
Write contents: DVD movies
Number of media tried: 1 pcs.
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: failed after fews seconds
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a

When blank k'probe show me the following output
******************************************
Disc Type = DVD-R
Manufacturer =

<< Disc Information >>
Erasable = False
Status of Last Session/Border = Empty Session/Border
Disc Status = Empty Disc
Number of First Track/RZone on Disc = 1
Number of Sessions/Borders(LSB) = 1
First Track/RZone Number in Last Session/Border(LSB) = 1
Last Track/RZone Number in Last Session/Border(LSB) = 1
Disc Identification Valid(DID_V) = False
Disc Bar Code Valid(DBC_V) = False
Unrestricted Use Disc(DRU) = True
Disc Type = CD-DA or CD-ROM Disc
Disc Identification = 00000000h
Lead-in Start Time of Last Session = 00:00:00(00:00:00h)
Last Possible Start Time for Startof Lead-out = 00:00:00(00:00:00h)
Disc Bar Code = 0000000000000000h
Number of OPC Table Entries = 0

<< Track Information >>
Number of Complete Sessions on Disc = 0
*********************************************

after it fail is impossible to get info on disk
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Old 06-12-2003   #18 (permalink)
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Marco

Hi Marco

Please make this thread "sticky/read first" - like the one with good results. This thread might be even more important, since it will save users from burning coasters with media already tested by others.

I assume that the info from this thread is forwarded to the BTC lab so that the media can be supported in future firmwares. Or are we wasting our time here?

Cheers,
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Network DVD-R

Cost: € 3,29
Brand name: Mitsui
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: MCI G01
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.19
Write contents: avi video files
Number of media tried: 3 pcs.
Burn result: 3X write error
Verification result: 3X unreadable
Verification program: nero cd-dvd speed
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Hy, here some more bad results


Brand name: Sony DVD-R DMR47
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: SONY
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.23 / 28
Write contents: Homevideo
Number of media tried: 2 pcs.
Burn speed: 1X
Burn result: 2x failed
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a

Brand name: Swisstec
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: n/a
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Cyberlink Powerproducer, Nero 6.0.0.9
Write contents: Homevideo
Number of media tried: 2 pcs.
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: 2x failed
Verification result: n/a
Verification program: n/a

ädit: both media are working with fw0048 without probs

greetings

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Brand name: BeAll/Samsung
Media type: DVD-R 2X (possibly 4x, don't know)
MID code: G00001
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: DVD Decrypter 3.1.7.0 in ISO write mode
Write contents: DVD movie (The Manchurian Candidate)
Number of media tried: 2 pcs.
Burn result: I/O Error after initial burn of LeadIn
Verification result: N/A
Verification program: N/A
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Quote:
Originally posted by hankholmes
Brand name: BeAll/Samsung
Media type: DVD-R 2X (possibly 4x, don't know)
MID code: G00001
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: DVD Decrypter 3.1.7.0 in ISO write mode
Write contents: DVD movie (The Manchurian Candidate)
Number of media tried: 2 pcs.
Burn result: I/O Error after initial burn of LeadIn
Verification result: N/A
Verification program: N/A
Update your firmware to 0047 - they are not supported by firmware 0043. I use same media and the burnquality is absolutely great according to K's Probe. The best I have seen with DVD-R and this drive so far.

Just for the record. The correct MID is BeAll.G00001 and they are 2X, not 4X.
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Bad results with the following media:
(silly me expected the product to work on any standard media since there's no mention of "supported media only" on the box and I purchased a spindle of these)

Brand name: Laser 4x
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: AML
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 5.5.10.33 (Bundled with burner)
Write contents: DVD Video
Number of media tried: 4 pcs.
Burn speed: 4X
Burn result: 4x failed

2x failed totally writing lead-in... drive spins for ages with dud disc inserted.
2x seemed to succeed in writing to entire disc, but failed to
be readable even by the 4001IM itself.

From DVDInfo...

Entire Media Code...
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0E 15 .l...@....R.....
00000010 98 9A 90 00 03 41 4D 4C 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 .....AML........
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 CC C0 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 10 11 ................

Failed complete burn disc....
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID AML
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 10
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1C
4x Write Strategy field 4 13 A8 88 65
4x Write Strategy field 5 98 9A 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
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network dvd-r

Quote:
Originally posted by cafaldo
Network DVD-R

Brand name: Mitsui
Media type: DVD-R
MID code: MCI G01
Firmware used: V0043
Burn software used: Nero 6.0.0.19
Write contents: avi video files
Number of media tried: 3 pcs.
Burn result: 3X write error
Verification result: 3X unreadable
Verification program: nero cd-dvd speed
Have you tried to burn 1x ....I think that this dvd-r need it ......
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MID codes AML and AN31 are both manufactured by Umedisc in Hong Kong. We have contacted them and we're in the process of trying to get our firmware ready for these MID codes !

I'm also in the process of getting MID: DDD (Digital Disc Dessau) media for future tuning.

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