physical sharing - Club CDFreaks

ikkedus · 13-07-2004

Hi, I was wondering if it would be legal to give away CD's. For example, I have pile of disks I don't ever look after anymore. Would it be OK to dump them on a site and give them to anyone who has interest in them? And have other people do the same? And have some sort of rating list of 'good people' and people that don't participate like the ratings at ebay.

Maybe the idea is stupid, but I get irritated about all the lawsuits. Even though I don't actually use anything like kazaa or such. I think companies should innovate if they fail to keep up with current standards or else bleed to death. I mean no one is obligatory to buy a typewriter next to a computer if they only want to type a letter in Word. So update your typewriter so it's better than word or die.

Second issue of pain is the royalties that go to the artists. Well, they're not exactly suffering in poverty, are they. And the artists who are, aren't of interest to the companies.

**Da_Taxman** · 13-07-2004

Depends on the country (read http://www.euro-copyrights.org/ )

I'd say that if you hand over backups to people who don't have the originals...it is illegal. But read the above-linked website for all the legal stuff...

*ZigZagMan* · 14-07-2004

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Originally Posted by ikkedus

Hi, I was wondering if it would be legal to give away CD's. For example, I have pile of disks I don't ever look after anymore. Would it be OK to dump them on a site and give them to anyone who has interest in them? And have other people do the same? And have some sort of rating list of 'good people' and people that don't participate like the ratings at ebay.

Maybe the idea is stupid, but I get irritated about all the lawsuits. Even though I don't actually use anything like kazaa or such. I think companies should innovate if they fail to keep up with current standards or else bleed to death. I mean no one is obligatory to buy a typewriter next to a computer if they only want to type a letter in Word. So update your typewriter so it's better than word or die.

Second issue of pain is the royalties that go to the artists. Well, they're not exactly suffering in poverty, are they. And the artists who are, aren't of interest to the companies.

If you live in the USA, and these are commercial discs (cd / DVD ) or you personal back-ups of discs you own.......it's illeagle, period. If they are back-up of discs you no longer own..it's already illeagle just to own the b-ups....

Personally, I agree that it's bullshit, but thats the legal wind here in the states...

ikkedus · 14-07-2004

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If you live in the USA, and these are commercial discs (cd / DVD ) <snip> it's illeagle

IC, I always thought it was legal to resell (or give away) a product that was legally bought. Just like I can resell my computer or my garden hose.

**Da_Taxman** · 14-07-2004

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Originally Posted by ikkedus

IC, I always thought it was legal to resell (or give away) a product that was legally bought. Just like I can resell my computer or my garden hose.

You were referring to the originals, rather than the backups...
Sorry, my misunderstanding.

If you are selling (giving away) the originals (and not keep a backup copy), there should be no problem as far as I know.

*ZigZagMan* · 15-07-2004

My misunderstanding also, I thought by your original post that you were physically uploading tracks to a website to give away for free. If what you meant was, upload a list of old cd's (originals) with the idea of free cd's email me if you want any of these rather than me throw them away.........thats legal. It's still not legal to keep back-ups of the originals though....

*bcn_246* · 07-08-2004

i wudnt risk giving away copyed disks even if they are backups

13-07-2004	#1 (permalink)
ikkedus New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2	physical sharing <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hi, I was wondering if it would be legal to give away CD's. For example, I have pile of disks I don't ever look after anymore. Would it be OK to dump them on a site and give them to anyone who has interest in them? And have other people do the same? And have some sort of rating list of 'good people' and people that don't participate like the ratings at ebay. Maybe the idea is stupid, but I get irritated about all the lawsuits. Even though I don't actually use anything like kazaa or such. I think companies should innovate if they fail to keep up with current standards or else bleed to death. I mean no one is obligatory to buy a typewriter next to a computer if they only want to type a letter in Word. So update your typewriter so it's better than word or die. Second issue of pain is the royalties that go to the artists. Well, they're not exactly suffering in poverty, are they. And the artists who are, aren't of interest to the companies.

13-07-2004	#2 (permalink)
Da_Taxman Senior (non-technical) Admin Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands Posts: 13,504	Re: physical sharing Depends on the country (read http://www.euro-copyrights.org/ ) I'd say that if you hand over backups to people who don't have the originals...it is illegal. But read the above-linked website for all the legal stuff... __________________ By registering to our forum you accepted our rules and policies (Dutch), so respect CD Freaks by respecting these rules and policies; Please read these helpful tips and links for all (newbies and oldtimers) Please describe your problem as clear as possible in your topic title, so that others can see what it is about and are more inclined to help if it is something they know something about; I do not provide technical support over E-mail or Private Message (emails with such requests will be bounced); Please post your questions as clear as possible, so others can help you get a correct answer sooner; Please use our search, you might get an answer to your question sooner that way; For any forum related issues you can contact me through PM; I don't dislike newbies, just lazy people who expect others to do their work for them.

15-07-2004	#6 (permalink)
ZigZagMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,277	Re: physical sharing My misunderstanding also, I thought by your original post that you were physically uploading tracks to a website to give away for free. If what you meant was, upload a list of old cd's (originals) with the idea of free cd's email me if you want any of these rather than me throw them away.........thats legal. It's still not legal to keep back-ups of the originals though.... __________________ My Current Rig:Nvidia Gforce4 MX 4000 128meg, Biostar M7NCD, AthalonXP 2500+, 512meg DDR2700 1x 512, NEC 2510A, Matshita DVD-RAM LFD310, 160gig via 2x 80gig IBM Deskstar, 400watt ps, Win98SE, Chieftech Tower with extra fans and flashy lights,,,,I find the lights annoying and cool at the same time..hmm Rig 2:Nvidia Riva TNT2 Pro 32meg, Gigabyte 7ZXE F9, AthalonXP 2100+, 640meg PC133 2x 256 / 1x 128, LG 52x24x52x, Creative DVD-Rom DVD2240E, 120Gig via 1x 40gig WDC400BB-00DKA0 / 1x 80gig ST380021A, 300watt ps, Firewire, XpPro SP1, Generic Mid tower case. Rig 3:800 Duron, Crap ass cirrus 2 meg video card, 55 gig via 1x 15 gig seagate, 1x 40 gig IBM deskstar. 512 meg ram pc133 (I'm so proud..lol ) ____________________________ *Hurray for boobies!!!*

07-08-2004	#7 (permalink)
bcn_246 Top Referrer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 3,520	Re: physical sharing i wudnt risk giving away copyed disks even if they are backups __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks... do it or I will dead you.

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