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Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues Discuss Music download services, peer to peer networks (P2P) and other digital music and legal issues. Peer to Peer and downloading music are todays HOT issues. Discuss here the likes of KaZaa, Ares, Overnet and Edonkey and their legal issues.



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Old 12-02-2005   #1 (permalink)
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LokiTorrent hit with million dollar fine

And that is only half the sad story. Just as a heads up to everybody, the MPAA is using info from the site to go after those that used LokiTorrent, we knew that already. But what I did not know is that they are looking at television programs being downloaded in the same light as movies! We have not discussed this much around here, and maybe it wont fly, but at least for now you are aware that the MPAA is going to try and stop it.

Many of us figured a free transmission of these shows would mean they were fair game, but I guess it does not follow the personal backup paradigm and is actually a distribution of copyrighted material just like movies or music. We can all figure out what the real reason is, these copies of television being passed around would have a negative impact on future DVD sales of televison series. Of course this applies mainly to those of us in the U.S, but let's not get bogged down with that, because we know damn good and well that once the precedent is set, it does not take long to spread to other countries.
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Re: LokiTorrent hit with million dollar fine

Most people just assumed that tv programs can be digitally distributed similar to VCR cassettes, from one friend to the next. I can understand why they want to go after the movie torrents and downloads, it is actually cheaper to rent/or go to movie theater, than the long wait in download, but TV shows???

Downloading TV series may or may not hurt the future DVD sale of the series. I would not purchase the DVD of a TV series I have never seen. But I do purchase TV series DVD of the ones I know that's good, and how do I know it is good? because I have seen it before, one way or another. And there are no way to watch two or more tv shows at the same time, doesn't matter how many TV/PIP you have. Some people have TiVo to record the shows, some have VCR, some do not have them at all.

Then there is also the possibility that some shows might not have DVDs at all, such as cancelled ones. Cancelled does not necessarily mean the show is bad, it just means that the rating might not have met what the stations were hopping, and/or the people with Nielsen box (if they exist) have no taste. There are too many good shows got cancelled due to the idiotic decisions from the network executives such as time slot, plot of the show...etc. Then there is also no garantee for shows that are not cancelled will be on DVD.

What they could do and should have done is do a low quality, such as real media movie, or mwv, upload on to their site, and see how many people watch/download those in a certain time to help determine the real life rating, also use that in determine whether they should produce the DVD for the show.

One way to make money for Movie industries is to have TALENTED PEOPLE!!! They pay millions to actor/actoress who do not know how to act, the only thing they had were face and/or bodies of "star" but no talent. Also, a few million dollar less in salary per movie/tv show per main actor/actoress also would not hurt either.
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Re: LokiTorrent hit with million dollar fine

A million dollar fine - which of course can be paid with access to info of Loki's registered members at roughly $0.50 per individual.

Also, I don't see were the MPAA has any precedent over the trading of TV episodes being illegal. Sony vs Universal (is that right) pretty much determined that and a change in the technology in how it occurs really is irrelevant. The people who trade for them are typically only trying to keep up with the program and the others probably never had any intention of buying the series anyway. By allowing those to view it who missed the shows episode only serves to keep that individual interested in the series> I hardly see how this has a true negative impact.
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