If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged - Club CDFreaks

*Crabbyappleton* · 12-09-2006

I cannot verify all of this, but I think it is true. MetaMachine just lost out to the RIAA. They have to pay 30 million dollars to them and cease distribution of their softwares, like eDonkey and eDonkey2000, Overnet -etc.

If you use the eDonkey app now, supposedly you are given an "opportunity" to visit the eDonkey site. Then, you read the following message, (pasted below) and your IP is logged. Then an automatic uninstall of eDonkey is invoked. (this is the part I cannot verify)

I know the page logs the IP, as I went there for investigative purposes.

But I do not use eDonkey so I don't know about the other part concerning an automatic uninstall. Perhaps someone can enlighten us all.

Here's the warnin' message:

The eDonkey2000 Network is no longer available.

If you steal music or movies, you are breaking the law.

Courts around the world -- including the United States Supreme Court --
have ruled that businesses and individuals can be prosecuted for illegal
downloading.

You are not anonymous when you illegally download copyrighted material.

Your IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xx and has been logged.

Respect the music, download legally.

*Nosmartz* · 13-09-2006

(knees knockin)....i've only used the emule/donkey network a few times and i couldn't get but a few files off of it...it was just sit and wait...Not the 1st or last time we'll hear the powers that be threatning will legal action....they seem to be the only ones complaining....not many of the artists do..

wish they knew that IP's are logged everywhere u go....Guess they're too busy sittin back countin the cash

Bobsen · 13-09-2006

So I guess its one of those 'veiled' threats intended to raise the paranoia levels? Log your IP after just reading the message? WTF?
Honestly, why not just say the NSA is reading over your shoulder from now on, everytime you use a cell, send an email or reply in a public forum...
Whoops, they already are.....
Now be afraid, very afraid.

stroppy · 14-09-2006

It won't be long before the rest fall....Limewire, the re-worked WinMX, etc...

pyro_dragun · 14-09-2006

Good thing I don't use garbage like eDonkey.

*Mr. Belvedere* · 14-09-2006

(The following text is not meant to insult posters and viewers, but targets the semi-public opinion about the IP protocol and so-called anonymous communication. If you still feel insulted you should buy an etch-a-sketch and stop playing with them fancy computers)

Oh my god! My IP is logged! I would have never guessed that my IP addresses may actually be logged by some sort of devil machinery!

Your IP addresses will and always be logged. No matter what kind of operating system and no matter what kind of device. If it uses the TCP and IP protocol your IP addresses will be logged. This is how the communication between two IP addresses is actually established! Client seeks out server!

Or put into "IP-talk"

(dialup.verizon.youraccount.com) contacts (www.edonkey.application.sucks.anyway.com) (123.456.789.012:12 connects to 012.345.678.901:65535) ooooh... spooky!

There is no anonymous communication possible. Never! The only thing they can do is strip out the information packages of their details or use very clever routing schematics to make it impossible to search your home on google earth.

"Yeah but this and that application promises anonymous internetting!"

The only thing these kind of services do is strip out info and redirect traffic. Guess what? It still LOGS! It must log. It will always log. It just gained more sources and more destinations, which are still tracable. More difficult to trace, but do you think the justice department is stupid? Do you think they cannot get you because you masked your ip address? Hell no.

SG · 14-09-2006

I think we're all missing something here: this is undemocratic. Why are these laws being made? Why are the governing bodies permitting this when it's not in the people's best interests or wants?

Oh yeah, money.

*Nosmartz* · 14-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Belvedere

Your IP addresses will and always be logged. No matter what kind of operating system and no matter what kind of device. If it uses the TCP and IP protocol your IP addresses will be logged. This is how the communication between two IP addresses is actually established! Client seeks out server!

Indeed......and I just keep on Download'n....*clink*....Nosmartz hears cell doors clang shut...

.....

Sinse Smoka · 16-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsen

So I guess its one of those 'veiled' threats intended to raise the paranoia levels? Log your IP after just reading the message? WTF?
Honestly, why not just say the NSA is reading over your shoulder from now on, everytime you use a cell, send an email or reply in a public forum...
Whoops, they already are.....
Now be afraid, very afraid.

preach :P

Bobsen · 16-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinse Smoka

preach :P

SMACK! Your IP has been logged....
Lol

12-09-2006	#1 (permalink)
Crabbyappleton CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The helm of the Black Pearl Posts: 1,776	If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I cannot verify all of this, but I think it is true. MetaMachine just lost out to the RIAA. They have to pay 30 million dollars to them and cease distribution of their softwares, like eDonkey and eDonkey2000, Overnet -etc. If you use the eDonkey app now, supposedly you are given an "opportunity" to visit the eDonkey site. Then, you read the following message, (pasted below) and your IP is logged. Then an automatic uninstall of eDonkey is invoked. (this is the part I cannot verify) I know the page logs the IP, as I went there for investigative purposes. But I do not use eDonkey so I don't know about the other part concerning an automatic uninstall. Perhaps someone can enlighten us all. Here's the warnin' message: The eDonkey2000 Network is no longer available. If you steal music or movies, you are breaking the law. Courts around the world -- including the United States Supreme Court -- have ruled that businesses and individuals can be prosecuted for illegal downloading. You are not anonymous when you illegally download copyrighted material. Your IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xx and has been logged. Respect the music, download legally. __________________ Vista frikkin' SUCKS!!

13-09-2006	#2 (permalink)
Nosmartz CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,017	Re: If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged (knees knockin)....i've only used the emule/donkey network a few times and i couldn't get but a few files off of it...it was just sit and wait...Not the 1st or last time we'll hear the powers that be threatning will legal action....they seem to be the only ones complaining....not many of the artists do.. wish they knew that IP's are logged everywhere u go....Guess they're too busy sittin back countin the cash

13-09-2006	#3 (permalink)
Bobsen New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 29	Re: If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged So I guess its one of those 'veiled' threats intended to raise the paranoia levels? Log your IP after just reading the message? WTF? Honestly, why not just say the NSA is reading over your shoulder from now on, everytime you use a cell, send an email or reply in a public forum... Whoops, they already are..... Now be afraid, very afraid.

14-09-2006	#4 (permalink)
stroppy CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lost in space! Posts: 898	Re: If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged It won't be long before the rest fall....Limewire, the re-worked WinMX, etc... __________________ Stroppy Stroppy likes happiness Stroppy dislikes arrogance Stroppy likes FOOD! Oh the pain, the pain... William! Where is that Bubble-Headed Booby?

14-09-2006	#5 (permalink)
pyro_dragun CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 208	Re: If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged Good thing I don't use garbage like eDonkey. __________________ insert witty comment here

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14-09-2006	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Belvedere CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cthulhu Ninja Zombie Posts: 14,667	Re: If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged (The following text is not meant to insult posters and viewers, but targets the semi-public opinion about the IP protocol and so-called anonymous communication. If you still feel insulted you should buy an etch-a-sketch and stop playing with them fancy computers) Oh my god! My IP is logged! I would have never guessed that my IP addresses may actually be logged by some sort of devil machinery! Your IP addresses will and always be logged. No matter what kind of operating system and no matter what kind of device. If it uses the TCP and IP protocol your IP addresses will be logged. This is how the communication between two IP addresses is actually established! Client seeks out server! Or put into "IP-talk" (dialup.verizon.youraccount.com) contacts (www.edonkey.application.sucks.anyway.com) (123.456.789.012:12 connects to 012.345.678.901:65535) ooooh... spooky! There is no anonymous communication possible. Never! The only thing they can do is strip out the information packages of their details or use very clever routing schematics to make it impossible to search your home on google earth. "Yeah but this and that application promises anonymous internetting!" The only thing these kind of services do is strip out info and redirect traffic. Guess what? It still LOGS! It must log. It will always log. It just gained more sources and more destinations, which are still tracable. More difficult to trace, but do you think the justice department is stupid? Do you think they cannot get you because you masked your ip address? Hell no. __________________ I might be evil. Want to make dvd movie backups? Take the 5-step or the 2-step process. Fun, fast and free!

14-09-2006	#7 (permalink)
SG CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South West, UK Posts: 714	Re: If you use eDonkey, your IP may be logged I think we're all missing something here: this is undemocratic. Why are these laws being made? Why are the governing bodies permitting this when it's not in the people's best interests or wants? Oh yeah, money.

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