Go Back   Club CDFreaks - Knowledge is Power > International Chat: General Topics > Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues


Commercial message

Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues Discuss Music download services, peer to peer networks (P2P) and other digital music and legal issues. Peer to Peer and downloading music are todays HOT issues. Discuss here the likes of KaZaa, Ares, Overnet and Edonkey and their legal issues.



Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-01-2004   #1 (permalink)
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3
Downloading music/movies advise

My son wants to pay for unlimited CD / DVD downloading services. He has found about 4 or 5 sites that all cost around $20-$30 per year for unlimited downloads of music and movies. The services that he is looking at are kazaa, mp3 rox, easymusicdownload and other sites like this. From a legal standpoint, this doesn't seem much different than Napster. How legal and how reputable are these types of services. At these prices, it seems inconceivable that they are paying any royalties to the music artists. If these are borderline legal/not legal, I would rather he not do it. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks.
jmadigan3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2004   #2 (permalink)
Senior (non-technical) Admin
 
Da_Taxman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Posts: 13,434
What country do you live in?
Legal implication vary per country...
__________________
  • By registering to our forum you accepted our rules and policies (Dutch), so respect CD Freaks by respecting these rules and policies;
  • Please read these helpful tips and links for all (newbies and oldtimers)
  • Please describe your problem as clear as possible in your topic title, so that others can see what it is about and are more inclined to help if it is something they know something about;
  • I do not provide technical support over E-mail or Private Message (emails with such requests will be bounced);
  • Please post your questions as clear as possible, so others can help you get a correct answer sooner;
  • Please use our search, you might get an answer to your question sooner that way;
  • For any forum related issues you can contact me through PM;

  • I don't dislike newbies, just lazy people who expect others to do their work for them.
Da_Taxman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2004   #3 (permalink)
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3
We live in the US
jmadigan3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2004   #4 (permalink)
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sweden
Posts: 20
@ jmadigan3:

I have also found sites like the ones you describe. They are all a big scam! He'll pay and he won't get shit. First of all, they aren't legal (what is?). Second, if your son would want these kind of wares, he shouldn't pay for them. The whole "Warez" concept is that people should get software, music, movies etc. for FREE! The ones "selling" and earning money on things they get for free are frauds and should be castrated.

I advice you and your son not be involved in such things.

Y.s
Farre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2004   #5 (permalink)
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3
Thanks Farre. I am somewhat a novice on this, and appreciate your response.

Any suggestions on how to tell which are legit and which are scams. It seems to me that any service that offers unliminted downloads for a nominal fee can't possibly be paying any royalties to the record companies or artists. Is a good rule of thumb that if there is a per song charge, say .99, that it is a legitimate legal service.
jmadigan3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2004   #6 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
Mr. Belvedere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Cthulhu Ninja Zombie
Posts: 14,666
Quote:
Originally posted by Farre
@ jmadigan3:

I have also found sites like the ones you describe. They are all a big scam! He'll pay and he won't get shit. First of all, they aren't legal (what is?). Second, if your son would want these kind of wares, he shouldn't pay for them. The whole "Warez" concept is that people should get software, music, movies etc. for FREE! The ones "selling" and earning money on things they get for free are frauds and should be castrated.

I advice you and your son not be involved in such things.

Y.s
I think that , by telling everything is illegal , you overreact a little.

There are several legal download/sharing services. Even in the United States. Rhapsody is a nice example for instance. And what to think about iTunes ?

Thing is ; Most legal download/sharing services have various (somtimes extreme) content protection , to make sure that person #1 doesn't " give " away his music to person #2. This makes such services very very unpopular.

I'm not saying that there are much legal download and sharing services on the internet , but please give them a fair chance.

If one would like the latest in games in a legal way. I would suggest to take a peek at the GameSpy website , which offers some excellent content for the eager (legal) gamer.

Legal music and no downloads ? Try Shoutcast. Zillions of music radio stations.
__________________
I might be evil.

Want to make dvd movie backups? Take the 5-step
or the 2-step process. Fun, fast and free!
Mr. Belvedere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2004   #7 (permalink)
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sweden
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Belvedere
I think that , by telling everything is illegal , you overreact a little.

There are several legal download/sharing services. Even in the United States. Rhapsody is a nice example for instance. And what to think about iTunes ?

Thing is ; Most legal download/sharing services have various (somtimes extreme) content protection , to make sure that person #1 doesn't " give " away his music to person #2. This makes such services very very unpopular.

I'm not saying that there are much legal download and sharing services on the internet , but please give them a fair chance.

If one would like the latest in games in a legal way. I would suggest to take a peek at the GameSpy website , which offers some excellent content for the eager (legal) gamer.

Legal music and no downloads ? Try Shoutcast. Zillions of music radio stations.
I don't think you can compare iTunes with the big Warez sites that are invading the Internet. If I'm not mistaking, the iTunes company has a legal contract with each and everyone of the artists, saying that they have the legal right to share their music.
The site that claims to have unlimited CD/DVD download services for the small amount of 20-30$ a year are making money on things that they get for free. Thats whats bothering me so much. Thats what I wanted jmadigan3 to know, that he shouldn't support these kind of companies.

But sure, the examples you gave are good for the one that does it "the legal way" but as you also told, the files that are downloadable from www.GameSpy.com and iTunes aren't the same thing. I'm not such a big fan of games, but I don't think you can download full games from GameSpy. Please enlighten me on this issue.

To round it up, I think you have a good point, and I think these companies has a good idea, but I can assure you that I wouldn't use these services, and I don't think the majority of the Internet users will either when you can get the same files (almost) for a lot cheaper price (free). And that's what's bugging me about the sites jmadigan3 asked about.

Maybe I'm not making my self clear, but what the heck. I'm Swedish..
Farre is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
downloading music and movies dizzy blonde Newbie Forum 2 31-12-2006 04:13
Need advise on downloading movies Theard Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues 5 21-04-2006 21:50
Advise on downloading movies Turtle Boy Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues 11 07-03-2006 11:32
no more music downloading clownpatrol Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues 7 23-03-2005 14:53
downloading only music mantra Music Download, Peer to Peer (P2P) & Legal Issues 0 20-03-2005 17:50


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 16:38.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0