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Old 26-03-2005   #76 (permalink)
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drm is a tricky bastard indeed
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Old 27-03-2005   #77 (permalink)
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Darn you DRM. I was able to get around you when I went to sleep, but when I woke up, you turned into a giant pain in the butt. Now we are all stuck recording in real time. It is going to take me a month of non-stop recording just to get all of my Mp3's converted. WTF!
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Old 30-03-2005   #78 (permalink)
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PS Magaman is a great sales rep for music stacker, check his posted messages see how many recomend musicstacker and provide a link, then look at the double and triple posts.

I've tried all the recording software and guarentee you this one sucks compared to tunebite/replay music.
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Yea well lets see how many of your 17 posts include a link to music stacker? like 15.
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PS Magaman is a great sales rep for music stacker, check his posted messages see how many recomend musicstacker and provide a link, then look at the double and triple posts.

I've tried all the recording software and guarentee you this one sucks compared to tunebite/replay music.
Magaman apparently does have a financial interest in Musicstacker.
Musicstacker worked great for me for one day, so I purchased it.
Now I hear the music as it is being "recorded" and find an mp3 file of the proper size, but nothing will play it.
What am I doing wrong?
I have searched the net and there is no FAQ or help file.
The only "reviews" I can find are by Magaman on about every file download site there is.
I am going to PM Magaman and find out what the deal is.
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Magaman apparently does have a financial interest in Musicstacker.
Musicstacker worked great for me for one day, so I purchased it.
Now I hear the music as it is being "recorded" and find an mp3 file of the proper size, but nothing will play it.
What am I doing wrong?
I have searched the net and there is no FAQ or help file.
The only "reviews" I can find are by Magaman on about every file download site there is.
I am going to PM Magaman and find out what the deal is.

Hopefully you didn't get shafted . . . good luck.
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No other software that we know of keeps the song information intact between the burn and rip.
CDMaster32 keeps track all of the song, album name, artist and other song data between the burn and the rip.

This means that by using CDMaster32; all of your MP3s contain the TAG information which was original to the WMA.

If you have the time and/or the patience to retag all your MP3s (from WMA) by hand; then you right... you can use any software (which supports copy protected WMA to AudioCD) you like.

I don't seem to have any problems with the tags using tunebite. Besides, who doesn't usually end up editing the tag info at some point anyway?
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when you use the rpgoram to record the music, like tunebit, doesit workon napster togo,and doesitcreatea different file for each songcreated withproper names intact?
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when you use the rpgoram to record the music, like tunebit, doesit workon napster togo,and doesitcreatea different file for each songcreated withproper names intact?

Tunebite rips the WMA file as an ogg or mp3 file, so yes it creates a completely separate and new file with the same name of the WMA song you are playing.
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Hey, guys...
Have you tried this yet?

http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips858.html

Old version that works well to convert napster WMAs over to mp3... faster than real time. It's worked very well for me thus far.
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Hey, guys...
Have you tried this yet?

http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips858.html

Old version that works well to convert napster WMAs over to mp3... faster than real time. It's worked very well for me thus far.
That doesn't work. I tried it.
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That doesn't work. I tried it.
Acoustica used to work up until a few days ago, then the same thing that happened with Virtuosa and Winamp happened (revoke their license, forces you to upgrade, new version won't convert copy-protected WMAs). Looks like the only way to convert WMAs will be to use something like Tunebite.
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Acoustica used to work up until a few days ago, then the same thing that happened with Virtuosa and Winamp happened (revoke their license, forces you to upgrade, new version won't convert copy-protected WMAs). Looks like the only way to convert WMAs will be to use something like Tunebite.

Now that's something I hadn't heard about . . . or hadn't paid attention to . . . revoking licenses and forcing an upgrade.
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I have a question for you all.

I was using TuneBite to re-encode my music from Napster, and so far in two songs that I've re-encoded there is this weird pause (kind of sounds like a skip) that happens for like half a second and then the music continues. It's annoying...

I read this in the programs FAQ.

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Q: Can I use my PC while I’m recording?

A: Yes. However, this is not recommended, since high load peaks might result in dropouts in the piece of music. External applications might also introduce Wave-Out device signals, which will be audible in the song afterwards.
Would the problem I'm experiencing be a result of using the computer while re-encoding?
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Yes - see your other post.
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What BitRate do you all usually re-encode at? I'm using 192 but I already have 115 songs and I'm using up 550mb. That's a lot...
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Would the problem I'm experiencing be a result of using the computer while re-encoding?
When you are recording a track on a PC in real-time, whether from the playback by another application or from an external source such as the line-in, the recording application needs to have continuous access to the source in order to provide a continuous recording.

If you decide to use your PC during a recording, it is possible for another application to hog enough CPU processing power that the application recording the audio can no longer capture the recording until the CPU usage frees up. When this happens, there is no way for the recording application to tell the player to "go back", so what it does instead is either insert silence in place of the part it missed or continue recording where it left off.

On the other hand, if you are getting silence or drop-outs even when you are not using your PC, then there is likely another application or process in the background that is hogging the CPU periodically. A simple way to look out for this is to bring up the task manager, go to the 'Processes' tab and sort by 'CPU'. Keep an eye on this for a short while or even during the recording. Finally, make sure your screensaver is disabled as this will almost for certain briefly interrupt your recording application.

As a last resort, it may be worth checking your hardware. When I use to have ISDN, my PC would periodically freeze for a few seconds for no apparent reason every now and again. I once saw a similar symptom with a PC with a wireless network card and not being connected to a wireless network. Devices connected to the parallel port can also briefly freeze the PC. For example if you have a Zip drive connected to the parallel port and something decides to access the Zip disk during recording, this will likely cause an interruption.
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actualy, there is still 1 program that still works w/out using real time conversions, but for fear that if i put it on this thread it will eventually get 2 napster and then get updated, making this program useless, i will not post it out in the open................in other wordz, just pm me if u want the program
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actualy, there is still 1 program that still works w/out using real time conversions, but for fear that if i put it on this thread it will eventually get 2 napster and then get updated, making this program useless, i will not post it out in the open................in other wordz, just pm me if u want the program
Thanks for posting that, but I think they have an idea of which programs can get past their copyright. They probably have people hired to find that out. I understand why you wouldn't want it posted here, but I think it's for the wrong reasons.
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I'm not sure why everyone (well not everyone) thinks that Tunebit is a good alternative. The quality sucks, it rips the song slower (and therefore out of tune) than the original and it clips the end or begining of the song sometimes by a few seconds. Its awful. Acoustica's program was the real shit for a few months but thats gone bye-bye now... I hate the RIAA. All I want to do is back up my music, make copies for my wife or kids but they keep f*%king me!
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I'm not sure why everyone (well not everyone) thinks that Tunebit is a good alternative. The quality sucks, it rips the song slower (and therefore out of tune) than the original and it clips the end or begining of the song sometimes by a few seconds. Its awful. Acoustica's program was the real shit for a few months but thats gone bye-bye now... I hate the RIAA. All I want to do is back up my music, make copies for my wife or kids but they keep f*%king me!

What type of quality are you looking for? Go buy the CD if quality is your main concern.

I've never had a problem with Tunebite or any of the other alternatives.
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What type of quality are you looking for? Go buy the CD if quality is your main concern.

I've never had a problem with Tunebite or any of the other alternatives.
I can totally agree. I have never user Acustica or whatever it is called, but the main goal in using such a tool, like Tunebite is to get your music from the internet into your car and portable devices and so on...and this tool does it perfectly, and that is enough for me. If i want crystal clear quality of sound i buy the original CD and stay at home listening to it on my home-theater system
P.S. The quality was ok too
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I'm not sure why everyone (well not everyone) thinks that Tunebit is a good alternative. The quality sucks, it rips the song slower (and therefore out of tune) than the original and it clips the end or begining of the song sometimes by a few seconds. Its awful. Acoustica's program was the real shit for a few months but thats gone bye-bye now... I hate the RIAA. All I want to do is back up my music, make copies for my wife or kids but they keep f*%king me!
What do you mean by "making the song out of tune"? The song does not sound out of tune at all... it's the same thing (minus the DRM protection and a very low quality loss).

It looks like you'll be needing to buy a napster-to-go MP3 player if you don't want to deal with a minimal loss of quality and a second cut off at the beginning of each song.

Also, what's the big deal with one second being cut off your songs?
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The big deal with one second being cut off of MY songs, is exactly that. And I'm not even an audio-phile! What would the world be like if the Beatles did that with Sgt Pepper? Just cut out that little bit at the end! Or if we didn't get to hear... whatever. I totally understand what you mean tho. If it's {free} music, you can't really complain right?

Well, I've noticed that tunebite is one of the most finnicky programs that I've ever used. But I am running an old busted laptop, but still me thinks that a P3 should be sufficient, right? Also, regardless of the P3 issue, does anyone else get that thing where the music will stop, but tunebite won't? I've been getting 30 min 2Pac songs when I just let it run on it's own. And no MusicMatch doesn't work, pal. Unless by "work," you, mean "freeze up 3 seperate machines." But thanx anyway, it was the thought that counted...

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Someone HELP ME!!!! I dont want to resort to tunebite if I dont have to. So can any of you PLEASE send me how to break the drm in a pm. PLEASE HELP!!!!I need something new that Napster(gay @#$@#$ that they are) havent made a patch for it. I havent logged on napster in a week, so something new will work. Please Help Me!!!
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