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Old 20-02-2005   #51 (permalink)
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

Anyone know how to hack tunebite to encode in VBR rather than CBR?

If not, is there any reason not to encode at 128kbps? From what I saw of the sources that's what they are encoded at, but I didn't spend enought time to figure out what encoding they use.
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Old 21-02-2005   #52 (permalink)
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WinAmp Crashes

Anyone else having problems with winamp crashing before the process starts? It usually takes between 5-15 tries to get each instance of winamp running. Once winamp starts running then i have no problems converting the files.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 22-02-2005   #53 (permalink)
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

I've got winamp running on 3 different PCs and no problem. I'm running 5.08 and just the basic plug-ins plus output stacker
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Old 23-02-2005   #54 (permalink)
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it sucks that you pay $14.99 a month for music files and you cant burn them to cd so if your pc crashes what do you do? you lost all your music files.you can back them up using nero if you burn them as data files or if you use cdrwin to back them up to a cue image and then use nero to burn them to disk this way you wont lose your files if your pc crashes.
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Old 24-02-2005   #55 (permalink)
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

Tunebit isn't the only software out there.

My software (CDMaster32)
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDM...MA_to_MP3.html
will allow you to make digital copies of the data inside a legally purchased WMA file.

The only hitch being that you need to have a CD/DVD Burner available on the machine with the legal WMA.

CDMaster32 takes care of transfering the song information from the WMA to the resultant file with little user interaction.

Also; your not limited to the "playback" speed of the WMA file... your only limited by the burn speed of your CD burner.

Best of all; unlike Tunebit... we offer a FREE fully functional trial... not 30second trial limits... You can "rip" a CD full of WMAs without any limitations.

Check out our free download... and our free step-by-step tutorial at:
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDM...MA_to_MP3.html
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Old 27-02-2005   #56 (permalink)
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

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All you need is tunebite, will re-encode the tracks on your drive so you can burn them, etc.

TUNEBITE

just need lame_enc.dll so you can encode in mp3, just google for that.

Works like a charm!

It works great for me . . .
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For those of you that have tried this software on your tracks. What is your impression of the quality of the resulting DRM free recording. How do the CD's sound?

I've been using tunebite for almost 2 months and have no complaints.
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Old 28-02-2005   #58 (permalink)
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

Someone explain to me how this Napster to Go works. If I have my player packed with songs I downloaded then I cancel my subscription how would the player know this? Do I have to frequently connect my player to the pc everyone once in a while or something?
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

Napster To Go is the equivalent to Napster's standard subscription service with the addition that one can also transfer their music to a Janus compatible player. Like Napster's standard subscription, music downloaded as part of Napster To Go expires at the end of the current subscription period if the subscription is cancelled and cannot be recorded to CD.

Going by what I remember, when you transfer Janus based DRM music to a suitable player, the subscription expiration or next renewal date is synchronised in the process. This means that the player will only play its Janus protected music up until this particular date.

However, once you pay the next fee for your subscription, you will also need to connect your player up again so that the new expiration / renewal date is also synchronised.

On the other hand if you decide to cancel your subscription, then your Janus protected music will expire at the end of the current subscription period. In this case, you cannot extend the end date on your player since the expiration date on your PC cannot be extended unless you decide to subscribe again.
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

can you put napster songs on an ipod legally? also about your drm tags, just open the wma with notepad. all the tags are right there and editable i believe, if you need to change artist names it looks just like html tags.
please let me know about the ipod, otherwise it looks like ill be purchasing a zen.
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Old 05-03-2005   #61 (permalink)
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Anyone know if there's a tunebyte version that will output the PCM and not send it to an encoder? (If I was up to speed on the lame.dll I'd be happy to make a dll myself to do this) But, I'm tired and lazy right now...
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Tunebite works nicely, I have napster to go and it's works great
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It is true that you can do this with other programs for free, infact MP3_out.dll from winamp will do it. The advantage to Tunebite is it uses the same file name and creates an ID3 tag. For only $13, the convenience of not having to rename files, or create ID3 is worth it to me.
If you are a technical freak, have time or have no bucks you can use shareware instead of tunebite.

http://www.tunebite.com is cheap, easy to use and legal. I am not a technical guy, I am lazy, so I am a fan of tunebite

For me it was not that problem after I have spent money for online music to buy my http://www.tunebite.com
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

I got Total Recorder 4 and I'm fairly sure I'm doing everything correctly - I'm playing the Napster Windows Media song through the Windows Media Player while recording and converting to mp3 using the Total Recorder. However, without fail, just past the one minute mark, the levels peak into static. The song continues to play, but the recording is wrecked.

Any ideas?
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

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Tunebit isn't the only software out there.

My software (CDMaster32)
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDM...MA_to_MP3.html
will allow you to make digital copies of the data inside a legally purchased WMA file.

The only hitch being that you need to have a CD/DVD Burner available on the machine with the legal WMA.

CDMaster32 takes care of transfering the song information from the WMA to the resultant file with little user interaction.

Also; your not limited to the "playback" speed of the WMA file... your only limited by the burn speed of your CD burner.

Best of all; unlike Tunebit... we offer a FREE fully functional trial... not 30second trial limits... You can "rip" a CD full of WMAs without any limitations.

Check out our free download... and our free step-by-step tutorial at:
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDM...MA_to_MP3.html
what i dont understand is, whats the point of doing all of that? if you paid the $.99 cents for the song, you can use practally any cd burner softwar to burn to a cd, then rip, but i think the main issue is using software that automatically converts wma files downloaded under the unlimited downloads feature to mp3 so you can burn them to a cd and listen to them in your car instead of having to buy a $400 player and not enjoy your car steroes or home entertainment centers.

if napster to go made it truly to go so it works on any player that supports wma instead of only a select few, it be a great deal worth srgining up for
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what i dont understand is, whats the point of doing all of that? if you paid the $.99 cents for the song, you can use practally any cd burner softwar to burn to a cd, then rip,
No other software that we know of keeps the song information intact between the burn and rip.
CDMaster32 keeps track all of the song, album name, artist and other song data between the burn and the rip.

This means that by using CDMaster32; all of your MP3s contain the TAG information which was original to the WMA.

If you have the time and/or the patience to retag all your MP3s (from WMA) by hand; then you right... you can use any software (which supports copy protected WMA to AudioCD) you like.
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Re: Bypassing Napsters Copyright.

dont know if i am repeating this i only skimmed the thread because i am at work but from what i saw there was no mention of virtuosa there are alot of versions that have been fixed by the company but there is still some that work if you look around.....the older versions will convert directly to 192 kbit mp3 drm free and sound great....i cant tell the difference in my car between those and store bought cds....oh and the best part with the latest lame encoder each song takes about 15 to 20 sec...food for thought just thought i would help out those that dont know about it....plus all of the tag info is intact....the gui for the program looks like a third grader drew it but i am not complaining
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winamp + dematars output stacker + lame out = unlimimitid toons for $10 monthly
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Virtuosa that works...

ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/WinSite/winx...tuosaTrial.exe

Virtuosa 5.0 Trial (Phoenix Edition)
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Did anybody get back the new copyright from drm files? Looks like Napster and Virtuosa updated their software to stop the decoding.

Any new ideas?!?!? ")
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Tunebite works.
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Did anybody get back the new copyright from drm files? Looks like Napster and Virtuosa updated their software to stop the decoding.

Any new ideas?!?!? ")
yeah ...virtuosa doesnt work anymore....it was working llast week...what did they do? i didn't even update my virtuosa...

please help
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they updated the napster files with new technology to make it uncompatable most likely
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they updated the napster files with new technology to make it uncompatable most likely
they also update my downloaded wma songs files from napster too?
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the drm on all your wma's is updated every time you play them in any program...
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