SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media - Club CDFreaks

BigMan · 16-12-2004

Is it possible to make a backup of a SafeDisk2 protected CD (more specifically of OED 2 v3) so that you do not need to enable "Hide CDR Media" in order to run the software.

*bcn_246* · 16-12-2004

Not with a CD-Burner, only if you used a proper CD press to make the discs, thats if the protection version has a ATIP check.

Ben

*VirusHack* · 16-12-2004

@ben iv made 1:1 copies of SD 2.6 wiv my Lite-on!

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*bcn_246* · 16-12-2004

But the ATIP check was introduced in SafeDisc 2.41, and it is impossible to play a CD-R backup of a game in a burner without some kind of ATIP hider.

Ben

*VirusHack* · 16-12-2004

Ah well

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*$CyBeRwIz$* · 16-12-2004

As ben said the ATIP hider blocks the commands from the computer to read the ATIP. Sometimes you may think that you have no ATIP hider on and your backup's work, but sometimes the options can be secretly running in the background. If you were able to erase the ATIP Signal, then I don't know what would happen.

Good Luck

BigMan · 17-12-2004

Thanks, folks!
I'd like just to put in that since most CD Readers (not writers) cannot read the ATIP block (or header) a copy of any SafeDisk protected piece of software should run just as smoothly as the original even w/o "Hide CDR Media" enabled. Am I right? What about DVD Readers - do they read the ATIP block/header?

BigMan · 17-12-2004

Here's one more issue related to SafeDisk & Nero CD Speed: I get "Error initializing test" and cannot perform a Disc Quality test on a SafeDisc 2 protected software. The reason should be the presence of bad sectors. However, all of them are part of the protection which I verified by successfully reading all the data on the CD. Having this in mind, is it possible to do a Disc Quality test on a CD that's been copy protected with bad sectors?

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 18-12-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMan

Thanks, folks!
I'd like just to put in that since most CD Readers (not writers) cannot read the ATIP block (or header) a copy of any SafeDisk protected piece of software should run just as smoothly as the original even w/o "Hide CDR Media" enabled. Am I right? What about DVD Readers - do they read the ATIP block/header?

In theory, yes.

Of course you'd need a burner to make a good enough copy.

DVD Readers, as well as CD Readers (DVD-ROMs & CD-ROMs) cannot read the ATIP signal simply because it has no reason to. ATIP is usually used for burning purposes only.

Good Luck.

16-12-2004	#1 (permalink)
BigMan New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Is it possible to make a backup of a SafeDisk2 protected CD (more specifically of OED 2 v3) so that you do not need to enable "Hide CDR Media" in order to run the software.

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bcn_246 Top Referrer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 3,520	Re: SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media Not with a CD-Burner, only if you used a proper CD press to make the discs, thats if the protection version has a ATIP check. Ben __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks... do it or I will dead you.

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bcn_246 Top Referrer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 3,520	Re: SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media But the ATIP check was introduced in SafeDisc 2.41, and it is impossible to play a CD-R backup of a game in a burner without some kind of ATIP hider. Ben __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks... do it or I will dead you.

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16-12-2004	#6 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media As ben said the ATIP hider blocks the commands from the computer to read the ATIP. Sometimes you may think that you have no ATIP hider on and your backup's work, but sometimes the options can be secretly running in the background. If you were able to erase the ATIP Signal, then I don't know what would happen. Good Luck __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

17-12-2004	#7 (permalink)
BigMan New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	Re: SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media Thanks, folks! I'd like just to put in that since most CD Readers (not writers) cannot read the ATIP block (or header) a copy of any SafeDisk protected piece of software should run just as smoothly as the original even w/o "Hide CDR Media" enabled. Am I right? What about DVD Readers - do they read the ATIP block/header?

17-12-2004	#8 (permalink)
BigMan New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	Re: SafeDisk2 w/o Hide CDR Media Here's one more issue related to SafeDisk & Nero CD Speed: I get "Error initializing test" and cannot perform a Disc Quality test on a SafeDisc 2 protected software. The reason should be the presence of bad sectors. However, all of them are part of the protection which I verified by successfully reading all the data on the CD. Having this in mind, is it possible to do a Disc Quality test on a CD that's been copy protected with bad sectors?

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