Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes - Page 2 - Club CD Freaks

bcn_246 · 11-12-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorz

What is the reason for that the LTR-52327S cannot play a backup? Is it not enough to use Hide CDR media?

I dont know, my ASUS 5232AS and Lite-On 52327S are both great burners (the ASUS is one of the few drives that can copy and play Tegas backups) however they both just wont play SafeDisc after 3.10 (unless with CloneCD emulation).

Ben

merther02 · 11-12-2004

Tegas? Ive always known it as Tages :P .

hristoforos · 12-12-2004

[quote=Cantab]Prince of Persia Warrior Within
(SafeDisc 4.00.001)

Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 build 1705: SafeDisc 2/3 profile

Hi guys,

Yesterday I bought NEC DV-5800C and NEC ND-3500A(G). For the newcomers the first is a DVD-ROM and the second is a DVD+-R+-RW(DL).
Since then I backed up with TOTAL SUCCESS Syberia I, Syberia II, Need For Speed Underground II, Rome: Total War and ... PRINCE OF PERSIA Warrior Within.

All the above using the DVD-ROM as reader (SafeDisc 2/3 profile) and the ND-3500A(G) as writer (same profile, MAX speed).

Note: None of the above plays on the writer (which is expected without an ATIP hidder, BUT all of them play just FINE on the reader).

I recommend buying reader and writer of the same brand. I read that the same really good results you can achive using a combination of LiteOn devices.

Note II: There is no problem at all playing PRINCE OF PERSIA Warrior Within from Alcohol's fake device (virtual DVD-ROM). I do not think that up to this point there is a protection that can trace Alcohol. On the other hand CloneCD is practically useless on SafeDisk above 3.15. The games refuse to play even from the original CD.

gmann68 · 15-12-2004

Thanks for your assitance...invaluable.

However, one answer still eludes me. I am running a Toshiba P35-S629 with a super multi-drive;

D: MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-820S
E: AXV CD/DVD-ROM

which came with the system. I'm using the Matshita for both reading and writing at 2x and 2X with the Safedisc 2/3. However, after using both CloneCD and Alcohol 120% I am still unable to run the game (Prince of Persia- The Warrior Within) on this machine. Are you suggesting that I purchase an external CD drive to run the backup.

Thanks again.

Thorz · 16-12-2004

Is the Plextor Premium a better all arround drive for this protection? I have Alcohol for burning it but have no space to buy a separate reader as copying source. I have seen that some members have copyed this SD reading and writting with the Premium but no members have copyed it using the LTR-52327S as a source reader.

Cantab · 16-12-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmann68

D: MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-820S
E: AXV CD/DVD-ROM

which came with the system. I'm using the Matshita for both reading and writing at 2x and 2X with the Safedisc 2/3. However, after using both CloneCD and Alcohol 120% I am still unable to run the game (Prince of Persia- The Warrior Within) on this machine.

I have the same drive on my Laptop. It's not bad but I sincerely doubt it can write SafeDisc 2/3/4 properly (can't even do RAW). On the other hand, it is an unfussy reader, so backups that won't play e.g. in my Toshiba drive will play in this one.

hristoforos · 16-12-2004

Well guys,

I am not that experienced in the backup 'business' but as far as I know, writers cannot read backups without an ATIP hidder. From my experience I can tell you that there was no problem until safedisk 3. For example AOM and the TITANS worked just fine (both use safedisk 2.9). When the version 3 appeared thinks changed a bit. First of all the original game before running does a quick scan in the registry for emulation software (it traces CloneCD BUT NOT alcohol, even the newest 4.00.010). So, remove all this programs before trying to run the game.
Before trying to write the image, first try to play it from the the fake drive (that is the AVX device).
If so far everything is cool, try to burn it (personally I find Alcohol by far better than GamesXCopy, CloneCD and the Blind Suite).
I am not in a position to tell you for sure that if you buy an external drive the copy will be readable but worth trying it.
BE CAREFUL to find on the net the brand of the mechanism used in your MASTUSHITA drive (e.g. ASUS uses PIONEER, SONY uses LiteOn e.t.c.) and then procced to the purchase.
Hope the above helped.
Please let me know ...

gmann68 · 16-12-2004

Thanks for your help. How did you get yours to work?

Gracias

gmann68 · 17-12-2004

What I mean to say is...Thanks and ευχαριστίες

I've removed the CloneCD from my registry and will try it from the AVX.

Best Regards

VirusHack · 18-12-2004

Game: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Reader: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H)
Writer: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H)
Program(s): CloneCD 5.0.4.5 and Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705
Profiles and/or Settings used: "Protected PC Game" in CloneCD, SafeDisc 2/3 in Alcohol 120%
Results (works/fails in): Fails in Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K and Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-103

Additional Notes: Hide CDR Media Blacklisted. Dam

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bcn_246 · 18-12-2004

Could somebody try making a mini-image of a SafeDisc 4.0 game and see if it works?

VirusHack · 18-12-2004

And thats a no Ben

You still see the wonderfull "Cannot find CD-ROM" msg

Tested with game Nexus: The Jupiter Incident protected by SafeDisc 4.00.001

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bcn_246 · 18-12-2004

Guess this is the death of my wonderfull mini-images

I guess SafeDisc have added some checks at the end as well as the start of the disc

Ben

CD 1986 · 18-12-2004

Have got a mini image of Prince Of Persia - Warrior Within (safedisc 4.0) that works just fine here!

Made with alcohol - file 2.5Mb - read errors cancelled after sector 1014.

VirusHack · 18-12-2004

Just my liton drive then

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VirusHack · 18-12-2004

Game: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Reader: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H)
Writer: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H)
Program(s): Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705
Profiles and/or Settings used: SafeDisc (not 2/3) in Alcohol 120%, Read @ 1x
Results (works/fails in): Fails in Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-103
Additional Notes: Hide CDR Media Blacklisted. But A120%'s ignore media type works

\\\\VH////

Budster · 01-02-2005

SUCCESS
Game: FLAT OUT
Reader: HL-DT-ST CDRW GCE-8400B
Writer: HL-DT-ST CDRW GCE-8400B
Program(s): Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705
Profiles and/or Settings used: SafeDisc 2/3 in Alcohol 120%
Results (works/fails in): Fails in SAMSUNG sw-240b, Works IN PIONEER 107D, HL-DT-ST CDRW GCE-8400B
Additional Notes: Made the iso in Alcohol and burnt in nero. Works without alcohol running in tray or any other emulations.

Diranar · 08-02-2005

Game: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Reader: Lite-On LTR 48246S
Writer: LTR 48248s
Program(s): Alcoholer andAlcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705
Profiles and/or Settings used: modified SafeDisc 2/3 profile in Alcohol 120%
(read: 4x read subchannel data / write: 4x correct sub channel data
Results (works/fails in): Image Work/ Works in Lite-On LTR 48246s and Teac DVD-Rom ???
Additional Notes: Blacklisting bypassed by vorbidden admin read Scsi Driver rights

;-)

seinfeld · 09-02-2005

hopefully the liton dvd rom wil work i just bought one
amd 64 4000+
2gig 3200 XMS XL
Gigabyte nforce 3
X800 PRO baby
gigaworks 7.1

squinty · 09-02-2005

Quote:

Guess this is the death of my wonderfull mini-images
I guess SafeDisc have added some checks at the end as well as the start of the disc
Ben

They probably added the ability to customize where and how many times it checks for the protection. IIRC, there where a few Safedisk protected games a year or so ago that would check at each level, not just at game start. I think Safedisk is made customizable in this way for the game publishers, just not many utilize it.

It'll have to be taken on a game by game basis.

iamthatonedude · 03-03-2005

The Sims 2: University (Success

)

SafeDisc 4.00.001

Alcohol 120% v1.9.2 (Build 1705) Safedisc 2/3 Profile

Reader: Liteon ltd-166s

Writer : Plextor Premium fw 1.05

Read at 1x

Write at 4x.

Works in Liteon ltd 166s (Only drive tested)

Does not detect emulation software with CloneCD 5.1.0.0 installed.

Black Diamond · 05-03-2005

I have to query the results as posted by iamthatonedude.
Safedisc 4, as modified for EA, checks the reader to see if it is a Liteon, if it is it won't run a copy.

My results for Sims 2 University Expansion.

SafeDisc 4.00.001

Alcohol 120% v1.9.2 (Build 1705) Safedisc 2/3 Profile.

Reader Liteon ltd-166s

Writer Lliteon 482448s

Read and write at MAX.

Works in TEAC Cdr-55s

Does not work in Liteon ltd 166s, Liteon 482448S or Pioneer A05

iamthatonedude · 05-03-2005

Query away my friend. I have been playing that backup for a couple days now with no troubles. It is indeed a liteon 166s that I am running my backup from.

I will say this: That post was my second attempt. My first attempt everything was set the same except I read it at 4x instead of 1x. While I was installing the first attempt it would freeze a little over halfway way through the installation (still installing from the first disc), it said that it could not read some file and everytime I tried to 'retry' it wouldn't get any farther. I have been using RiData (Ritek) 48x CD-Rs as my media. I trashed that one, gave up for a day and played from the original disc. The next day I decided to try it again as I don't like being beaten down by a protection! First I uninstalled University and restarted my computer, then I did what I posted above and everything has been working like a charm. No problems whatsoever. The installation of 'The Sims 2' is done from a backup of the CD version of the game. Also, I noticed the initial load time is a few seconds longer than the official disc, but to me that's no biggie.

iamthatonedude · 05-03-2005

Sorry for the double post, but Black Diamond got my curiosity sparked. I tested Sims 2: University backup play disc in my other two drives, as well as in my litey again for good measure. Results (See sig for model #'s and firmware releases):

Litey: Loaded (a few seconds slower than the official disc) and played the game.

Plex Premium: Loaded (regular speed) and played the game.

Philips DVD+R/RW: Failure. Loaded the splash screen and asked to put disc in drive after a couple minutes of searching.

I dunno where that info about it not playing in Litey's came from Black Diamond, but I sure am having a good time playing it in my Litey!

Cardi · 07-03-2005

I've just backed up Sonic heroes - Safedisc 4.00.000 SUCCESSFULLY! No one else on the forum seems to have mentioned this game, given that it is one of the first to incorporate v4.00.

Read + Wrote with LiteOn SOHW-1633S + Alcohol 120%. Successful. Fantastic drive!
Funny, but the image file loaded into a virtual drive would not work - stated 'Please insert correct Cd/Dvd and press OK.' Maybe virtual drives are something programmed to be hated by Safedisc 4?

Copy also works in LitOn SOHD-167T. Ignore media type is only emulation. Strange also that doom 3 backup won't work in this drive but will in the SOHW-1633s, and that is Safedisc 3.2!

11-12-2004	#27 (permalink)
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12-12-2004	#28 (permalink)
hristoforos New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes [quote=Cantab]Prince of Persia Warrior Within (SafeDisc 4.00.001) Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 build 1705: SafeDisc 2/3 profile Hi guys, Yesterday I bought NEC DV-5800C and NEC ND-3500A(G). For the newcomers the first is a DVD-ROM and the second is a DVD+-R+-RW(DL). Since then I backed up with TOTAL SUCCESS Syberia I, Syberia II, Need For Speed Underground II, Rome: Total War and ... PRINCE OF PERSIA Warrior Within. All the above using the DVD-ROM as reader (SafeDisc 2/3 profile) and the ND-3500A(G) as writer (same profile, MAX speed). Note: None of the above plays on the writer (which is expected without an ATIP hidder, BUT all of them play just FINE on the reader). I recommend buying reader and writer of the same brand. I read that the same really good results you can achive using a combination of LiteOn devices. Note II: There is no problem at all playing PRINCE OF PERSIA Warrior Within from Alcohol's fake device (virtual DVD-ROM). I do not think that up to this point there is a protection that can trace Alcohol. On the other hand CloneCD is practically useless on SafeDisk above 3.15. The games refuse to play even from the original CD.

15-12-2004	#29 (permalink)
gmann68 New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Thanks for your assitance...invaluable. However, one answer still eludes me. I am running a Toshiba P35-S629 with a super multi-drive; D: MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-820S E: AXV CD/DVD-ROM which came with the system. I'm using the Matshita for both reading and writing at 2x and 2X with the Safedisc 2/3. However, after using both CloneCD and Alcohol 120% I am still unable to run the game (Prince of Persia- The Warrior Within) on this machine. Are you suggesting that I purchase an external CD drive to run the backup. Thanks again. Last edited by gmann68; 15-12-2004 at 22:21.

16-12-2004	#30 (permalink)
Thorz CD Freaks Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 210	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Is the Plextor Premium a better all arround drive for this protection? I have Alcohol for burning it but have no space to buy a separate reader as copying source. I have seen that some members have copyed this SD reading and writting with the Premium but no members have copyed it using the LTR-52327S as a source reader.

16-12-2004	#32 (permalink)
hristoforos New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Well guys, I am not that experienced in the backup 'business' but as far as I know, writers cannot read backups without an ATIP hidder. From my experience I can tell you that there was no problem until safedisk 3. For example AOM and the TITANS worked just fine (both use safedisk 2.9). When the version 3 appeared thinks changed a bit. First of all the original game before running does a quick scan in the registry for emulation software (it traces CloneCD BUT NOT alcohol, even the newest 4.00.010). So, remove all this programs before trying to run the game. Before trying to write the image, first try to play it from the the fake drive (that is the AVX device). If so far everything is cool, try to burn it (personally I find Alcohol by far better than GamesXCopy, CloneCD and the Blind Suite). I am not in a position to tell you for sure that if you buy an external drive the copy will be readable but worth trying it. BE CAREFUL to find on the net the brand of the mechanism used in your MASTUSHITA drive (e.g. ASUS uses PIONEER, SONY uses LiteOn e.t.c.) and then procced to the purchase. Hope the above helped. Please let me know ...

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16-12-2004	#33 (permalink)
gmann68 New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Thanks for your help. How did you get yours to work? Gracias

17-12-2004	#34 (permalink)
gmann68 New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes What I mean to say is...Thanks and ευχαριστίες I've removed the CloneCD from my registry and will try it from the AVX. Best Regards

18-12-2004	#35 (permalink)
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 984	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Game: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident Reader: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H) Writer: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H) Program(s): CloneCD 5.0.4.5 and Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705 Profiles and/or Settings used: "Protected PC Game" in CloneCD, SafeDisc 2/3 in Alcohol 120% Results (works/fails in): Fails in Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K and Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-103 Additional Notes: Hide CDR Media Blacklisted. Dam \\\\VH//// __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! So don't even think about it. Spread the Fire with FireFox Reclaim Your Inbox with Thunderbird Speed up FireFox My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F3) 2GB 'DOMINATOR' Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 140GB Western Digital Raptor - System storage (SATAII 10k RPM 16MB Cache) 400Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 - File storage (SATAII 72k RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX 768MB PCI-E (163.75) Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

18-12-2004	#36 (permalink)
bcn_246 Top Referrer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 3,520	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Could somebody try making a mini-image of a SafeDisc 4.0 game and see if it works? __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks... do it or I will dead you.

18-12-2004	#37 (permalink)
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 984	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes And thats a no Ben You still see the wonderfull "Cannot find CD-ROM" msg Tested with game Nexus: The Jupiter Incident protected by SafeDisc 4.00.001 \\\\VH//// __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! So don't even think about it. Spread the Fire with FireFox Reclaim Your Inbox with Thunderbird Speed up FireFox My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F3) 2GB 'DOMINATOR' Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 140GB Western Digital Raptor - System storage (SATAII 10k RPM 16MB Cache) 400Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 - File storage (SATAII 72k RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX 768MB PCI-E (163.75) Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

18-12-2004	#38 (permalink)
bcn_246 Top Referrer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 3,520	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Guess this is the death of my wonderfull mini-images I guess SafeDisc have added some checks at the end as well as the start of the disc Ben __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks... do it or I will dead you.

18-12-2004	#39 (permalink)
CD 1986 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 801	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Have got a mini image of Prince Of Persia - Warrior Within (safedisc 4.0) that works just fine here! Made with alcohol - file 2.5Mb - read errors cancelled after sector 1014. __________________ My Forum

18-12-2004	#40 (permalink)
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 984	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Just my liton drive then \\\\VH//// __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! So don't even think about it. Spread the Fire with FireFox Reclaim Your Inbox with Thunderbird Speed up FireFox My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F3) 2GB 'DOMINATOR' Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 140GB Western Digital Raptor - System storage (SATAII 10k RPM 16MB Cache) 400Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 - File storage (SATAII 72k RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX 768MB PCI-E (163.75) Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

18-12-2004	#41 (permalink)
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 984	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Game: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident Reader: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H) Writer: Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K (NK0H) Program(s): Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705 Profiles and/or Settings used: SafeDisc (not 2/3) in Alcohol 120%, Read @ 1x Results (works/fails in): Fails in Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-103 Additional Notes: Hide CDR Media Blacklisted. But A120%'s ignore media type works \\\\VH//// __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! So don't even think about it. Spread the Fire with FireFox Reclaim Your Inbox with Thunderbird Speed up FireFox My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F3) 2GB 'DOMINATOR' Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 140GB Western Digital Raptor - System storage (SATAII 10k RPM 16MB Cache) 400Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 - File storage (SATAII 72k RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX 768MB PCI-E (163.75) Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

01-02-2005	#42 (permalink)
Budster New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes SUCCESS Game: FLAT OUT Reader: HL-DT-ST CDRW GCE-8400B Writer: HL-DT-ST CDRW GCE-8400B Program(s): Alcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705 Profiles and/or Settings used: SafeDisc 2/3 in Alcohol 120% Results (works/fails in): Fails in SAMSUNG sw-240b, Works IN PIONEER 107D, HL-DT-ST CDRW GCE-8400B Additional Notes: Made the iso in Alcohol and burnt in nero. Works without alcohol running in tray or any other emulations. Last edited by Budster; 01-02-2005 at 07:31.

08-02-2005	#43 (permalink)
Diranar New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Game: Nexus: The Jupiter Incident Reader: Lite-On LTR 48246S Writer: LTR 48248s Program(s): Alcoholer andAlcohol 120% 1.9.2 Build 1705 Profiles and/or Settings used: modified SafeDisc 2/3 profile in Alcohol 120% (read: 4x read subchannel data / write: 4x correct sub channel data Results (works/fails in): Image Work/ Works in Lite-On LTR 48246s and Teac DVD-Rom ??? Additional Notes: Blacklisting bypassed by vorbidden admin read Scsi Driver rights ;-)

09-02-2005	#44 (permalink)
seinfeld New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes hopefully the liton dvd rom wil work i just bought one amd 64 4000+ 2gig 3200 XMS XL Gigabyte nforce 3 X800 PRO baby gigaworks 7.1

03-03-2005	#46 (permalink)
iamthatonedude New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: On the dark side of the moon Posts: 5	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes The Sims 2: University (Success ) SafeDisc 4.00.001 Alcohol 120% v1.9.2 (Build 1705) Safedisc 2/3 Profile Reader: Liteon ltd-166s Writer : Plextor Premium fw 1.05 Read at 1x Write at 4x. Works in Liteon ltd 166s (Only drive tested) Does not detect emulation software with CloneCD 5.1.0.0 installed. __________________ What I'm Dealing with: Dell Dim. 8200 2.53Ghz P4 533Mhz FSB 1024MB RDRAM 80MB 5400 RPM IBM 2MB Cache HD 120GB 7200 RPM Western Digital SE 8MB Cache HD ATI 9700 Pro 128mb 8x AGP (Catalyst 4.10) Plextor Premium (1.05) Lite-On 166s (DS1C) Philips 2.4x DVD+RW D28(1.68) - External USB 2.0 Housing Windows XP SP2 'The way to all peace is to scale the mountain of self. Upon the journey back down, love will light the lamp of the soul.' - Anonymous Last edited by iamthatonedude; 03-03-2005 at 23:37. Reason: add info

05-03-2005	#47 (permalink)
Black Diamond CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Aus Posts: 446	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes I have to query the results as posted by iamthatonedude. Safedisc 4, as modified for EA, checks the reader to see if it is a Liteon, if it is it won't run a copy. My results for Sims 2 University Expansion. SafeDisc 4.00.001 Alcohol 120% v1.9.2 (Build 1705) Safedisc 2/3 Profile. Reader Liteon ltd-166s Writer Lliteon 482448s Read and write at MAX. Works in TEAC Cdr-55s Does not work in Liteon ltd 166s, Liteon 482448S or Pioneer A05

05-03-2005	#48 (permalink)
iamthatonedude New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: On the dark side of the moon Posts: 5	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Query away my friend. I have been playing that backup for a couple days now with no troubles. It is indeed a liteon 166s that I am running my backup from. I will say this: That post was my second attempt. My first attempt everything was set the same except I read it at 4x instead of 1x. While I was installing the first attempt it would freeze a little over halfway way through the installation (still installing from the first disc), it said that it could not read some file and everytime I tried to 'retry' it wouldn't get any farther. I have been using RiData (Ritek) 48x CD-Rs as my media. I trashed that one, gave up for a day and played from the original disc. The next day I decided to try it again as I don't like being beaten down by a protection! First I uninstalled University and restarted my computer, then I did what I posted above and everything has been working like a charm. No problems whatsoever. The installation of 'The Sims 2' is done from a backup of the CD version of the game. Also, I noticed the initial load time is a few seconds longer than the official disc, but to me that's no biggie. __________________ What I'm Dealing with: Dell Dim. 8200 2.53Ghz P4 533Mhz FSB 1024MB RDRAM 80MB 5400 RPM IBM 2MB Cache HD 120GB 7200 RPM Western Digital SE 8MB Cache HD ATI 9700 Pro 128mb 8x AGP (Catalyst 4.10) Plextor Premium (1.05) Lite-On 166s (DS1C) Philips 2.4x DVD+RW D28(1.68) - External USB 2.0 Housing Windows XP SP2 'The way to all peace is to scale the mountain of self. Upon the journey back down, love will light the lamp of the soul.' - Anonymous Last edited by iamthatonedude; 05-03-2005 at 07:19. Reason: Update

05-03-2005	#49 (permalink)
iamthatonedude New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: On the dark side of the moon Posts: 5	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes Sorry for the double post, but Black Diamond got my curiosity sparked. I tested Sims 2: University backup play disc in my other two drives, as well as in my litey again for good measure. Results (See sig for model #'s and firmware releases): Litey: Loaded (a few seconds slower than the official disc) and played the game. Plex Premium: Loaded (regular speed) and played the game. Philips DVD+R/RW: Failure. Loaded the splash screen and asked to put disc in drive after a couple minutes of searching. I dunno where that info about it not playing in Litey's came from Black Diamond, but I sure am having a good time playing it in my Litey! __________________ What I'm Dealing with: Dell Dim. 8200 2.53Ghz P4 533Mhz FSB 1024MB RDRAM 80MB 5400 RPM IBM 2MB Cache HD 120GB 7200 RPM Western Digital SE 8MB Cache HD ATI 9700 Pro 128mb 8x AGP (Catalyst 4.10) Plextor Premium (1.05) Lite-On 166s (DS1C) Philips 2.4x DVD+RW D28(1.68) - External USB 2.0 Housing Windows XP SP2 'The way to all peace is to scale the mountain of self. Upon the journey back down, love will light the lamp of the soul.' - Anonymous

07-03-2005	#50 (permalink)
Cardi New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	Re: Safedisc 4.00.000 Successes and Non-Successes I've just backed up Sonic heroes - Safedisc 4.00.000 SUCCESSFULLY! No one else on the forum seems to have mentioned this game, given that it is one of the first to incorporate v4.00. Read + Wrote with LiteOn SOHW-1633S + Alcohol 120%. Successful. Fantastic drive! Funny, but the image file loaded into a virtual drive would not work - stated 'Please insert correct Cd/Dvd and press OK.' Maybe virtual drives are something programmed to be hated by Safedisc 4? Copy also works in LitOn SOHD-167T. Ignore media type is only emulation. Strange also that doom 3 backup won't work in this drive but will in the SOHW-1633s, and that is Safedisc 3.2!

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