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As many of you may know the newest SafeDisc revision, SafeDisc 3.20 is becoming more and more common. These are some of the game protected with it so far to name just a few :

True Crime : Streets of L.A
Far Cry
PainKiller
Splinter Cell - Pandora Tommorrow

SafeDisc 3.15 came as a real shock, wiping out a huge number of burners capable of doing it without any EFM tricks. It seems that SafeDisc 3.20 seems to enforce this even more. This thread is similar to the "List of safedisc 3.15 back-up playable drives" thread, but instead providing users with an idea of the different methods of creating a successful backup. As the successful storys are near and far, it would be great to round them up into one thread.

As also many people know that it is not hard to make a working image with the newest Alcohol or Diskjuggler. But it would be more useful if it is left to actually burning it to media. This is how it should look as an example:

Game : Far Cry

Reader : LiteON 52327S

Writer : LiteON 52327S

Program(s) : Alcohol 120% and Alcoholer

Profile and/or settings used : Alcoholer's SafeDisc 2.9x profile to make and burn the image.

Additional notes : Only works on the LiteON 166s reader.

Good Luck!

Edit:// Please post unsuccessfull methods too!

A couple of things that may help people make a backup :

1. You will have a better chance using Re-Writable CDs
2. Burn the CD at 4x
3. Try to use a tolerable CD/DVD Drive like the LiteON 166s
4. Make sure you have no emulation and no burning programs open
5. Use a RAW writing programs like Alcohol 120% or DiscJuggler
6. Try to restart the computer a couple of times, and each time give it a go
7. Use good brand CDs.
8. Use the latest version of your burning applications
9. Try and see if the image works in a Virtual Drive
10. Don't be afraid to experiment with different apps.

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Thread re-opened.

This is not a general discussion thread, posts not in the format below will be moved/removed/deleted without notice.
Questions about what writer to use can be posted in the What CDRW drive, gets past most of the latest copy protection? thread.

Game:
Reader:
Writer:
Program(s):
Profiles and/or Settings used:
Results (works/fails in):
Additional Notes:
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Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1.

Version 1 is now released! You can get it here.

In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more!
Enjoy!

CD 1986

Game: Splinter Cell PT

Reader: ltd-166s

Writer: ltr-48125w

Burning Program: Discjuggler 4.10.1140

Settings: see Discjuggler thread by FP

Extra Notes: backup only works in ltd-166s, refuses to start in ltr-48125w even with emulation. Also tried ccd/fireburner and alcohol methods, but discs only worked in ltd-166s with "bad sector emulation" enabled in alcohol and again did not start in the burner. All backups written to (cheap) CMC cd-r discs.

Black Diamond

True Crime : Streets of L.A

Reader ltd-166s

Writer liteon 482448s

Latest Alcohol 120% V1.9.2 bld 1705 using Safedisc 2/3 profile

Read and burn at 8x

Works in ltd 166s and TEAC Cdr-55s

Does not work in Liteon 482448S or Pioneer A05

Orinoco

Game: Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow

Reader: LTD-163D

Writer: ASUS CRW-5232AS

Burning Program: Discjuggler 4.10.1140

Settings: see Discjuggler thread by FP

Extra Notes: backup only works in LTD-163D, as HideCDR media blacklisted and I don't own Alcohol. Not 100% when written to CD-R, more reliable when written to CD-RW. More details

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Game: Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow

Reader: LTD-163D

Writer: LTR-40125S

Burning Program: CloneCD 4.2.0.2/FireBurner 2.2.1

Settings: SafeDisk 2.51+ No AWS profile to read.

Extra Notes: FAILED. More details

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Game: Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow

Reader: LTD-163D

Writer: ASUS CRW-5232AS

Burning Program: CloneCD 4.2.0.2/FireBurner 2.2.1

Settings: SafeDisk 2.51+ No AWS profile to read.

Extra Notes: backup only works in LTD-163D, as HideCDR media blacklisted and I don't own Alcohol. Not 100% when written to CD-R, more reliable when written to CD-RW.

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Game : Far Cry

Reader : LiteON 52327S

Writer : LiteON 52327S

Program(s) : DiscJuggler 4.10.1140

Profiles and/or Settings used : Same as SafeDisc 2 thread by philamber's Discjuggler settings, writing at 4x.

Additional Notes : Stay tuned, doing some advanced testing...

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Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1.

Version 1 is now released! You can get it here.

In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more!
Enjoy!

$CyBeRwIz$

Game : True Crime : Streets of L.A

Reader : LiteON 52327S

Writer : LiteON 52327S

Program(s) : Alcohol 120% and Alcoholer

Profiles and/or Settings used : Alcoholer SafeDisc 2.9x profile for reading and writing at 4x.

Additional Notes : Stay tuned, doing some advanced testing...

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Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1.

Version 1 is now released! You can get it here.

In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more!
Enjoy!

docdocdoc9

Game : Far Cry (CD1 / Safedisc 3.20.022)

Reader : Plextor Premium (FW 1.05)

Writer : Plextor Premium (FW 1.05)

Programs : BlindWrite 4.57 (no AWS, no autoplay, burn @ 4X)

Results : Backup plays in Plextor premium and Liteon 166s. It sometimes runs in an Asus CD-S520A and Phillips CRW4401. It fails in a Creative DVD5421, Asus CRW-5224A and Matsushita CR5850.

In fact, only the old 3045 pattern was hard to read back on the plex. premium copy.

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Game : Far Cry (CD1 / Safedisc 3.20.022)

Reader : Plextor Premium (FW 1.05)

Writer : ASUS CRW-5224A (FW 1.1 or 1.40)

Programs : BlindWrite 4.57 (no AWS, no autoplay, burn @ 4X)

Results : Backup plays in Plextor premium and Liteon 166s. It fails everywhere else. The asus choked on SD 3.15's new weak sectors.

Parker

Game : Far Cry/Splinter Cell: pandoras Tomorrow ( both Safedisc 3.20.022)

Reader : Plexwriter PX-W1210S fw 1.06

Writer : Plexwriter PX-R820T fw 1.08/ Plexwriter PX-W8220T fw 1.05
Programs : To read CloneCD 4.3.2.2 (Safedisk profile at 8x) To write: last version of Alcohol 120% (Safedisk profile at 8x)+ATIP tip enabled

Results : The backup works in all drives of the list including the infamous toshiba sdm-1402 without problems
There some drives like LG GSA-4040B and an old creative cdrom 52x that needs sometime in some tries but it is ok.

The good things never die

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This is some of my little number of devices to test backups

-Plexwriter 8/20 TLA#0403
-Plexwriter 8/2/20 TLA#0101
-Plexwriter Premium TLA #0000
-Plexwriter 12/10/32S TLA #0103
-ASUS CRW-5224A FW 1.1
-AOPEN CRW-5232 FW 1.05
-Ultraplex 40x
-Ultraplex 32x
-Plex 12/20
-Toshiba sdm-1401 SCSI
-Toshiba sdm-1402 IDE
-Toshiba sdm-1612 IDE
-Plextor DVDR PX-716A TLA #0307
-Liteon ltd165h
-LG GSA-4040b A303
-LG GSA-4082B A204

DarkFate

GAME: True Crime

READER: PLEX PREMIUM 1.05
WRITER: PLEX PREMIUM 1.05

Read and wrote in 4x speed with alcohol 1.9.2 safedisk 3 settings.

backup does not work on toshiba sd-m 1802

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Plextor 1210 - 1.10
Plextor Premium - 1.05
LiteON 52327S - S0C

Skena

Game: Far Cry
Read / Write: Lite On LTR52327S
Program: Blindwrite Suite 5 w/ blindwrite tweaker
Settings: Read speed 48x w/ strengthen weak sectors
Write speed 8x

I had the log, but now i can't find it. If you set it properly, it should fix around 580 sectors, early on.

It was burnt onto a Sony super optical cd.

It doesn't run in my drive (i only have one, but it runs in my friends ASUS cd drive (i will find out model number asap.)

Skena

Game : Far Cry

Reader : LiteON 52327S

Writer : LiteON 52327S

Program(s) : Alcohol 120% and Alcoholer

Profile and/or settings used : Alcoholer's SafeDisc 2.9x profile to make and burn the image.
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I tried using Alcohol !20% version 1.9.2 usings the Safedisk 2/3 profile to attempt to make the image, but it failed, with many data read errors.

merther02

Game : True Crime : Streets Of La 3.20

Reader : Plex Premium

Writer : Plex Premium

Program(s) : Alcohol 120%

Profile and/or settings used : SafeDisc 2/3 profile to make and burn the image.

Additional notes : Worked on Plextor Premium with emulation, but then stops working after a few executions with a truecrime.exe error

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Parker

Hi there guys

I made some other tests in a little break I did ( I am in exams period now )
Well I used the same method like my last post. This time the was "True Crime: Streets of L.A."

Plexwriters 8/20 and 8/2/20 got successful results on all my devices

The case is that with the Aopen CRW-5232, Asus 5224A failed to get a golden backup like old plexis (only worked in some devices )

However, seems that using last Blindwrite with Aopen and ASUS CDRWs (only failed in my dvd-recorders and the damned toshiba sdm-1402) work better.

Good luck to SD killers

PS: Plextor premium is not good for making SD 2.90 and 3.15+ backups; the test was that I have made about 30 coasters trying to backup my Sims Superstar, MOH:Breakthrough, Lock ON, Universal Combat, Harry Potter: QM and large etc...
Although My surprise was sd 3.10 in LOTR:RK and fifa 2004 the backups worked really well.

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This is some of my little number of devices to test backups

-Plexwriter 8/20 TLA#0403
-Plexwriter 8/2/20 TLA#0101
-Plexwriter Premium TLA #0000
-Plexwriter 12/10/32S TLA #0103
-ASUS CRW-5224A FW 1.1
-AOPEN CRW-5232 FW 1.05
-Ultraplex 40x
-Ultraplex 32x
-Plex 12/20
-Toshiba sdm-1401 SCSI
-Toshiba sdm-1402 IDE
-Toshiba sdm-1612 IDE
-Plextor DVDR PX-716A TLA #0307
-Liteon ltd165h
-LG GSA-4040b A303
-LG GSA-4082B A204

kalas

Game : True Crime Streets of LA
Reader :PLextor Premium Fw 1.05
Writer : PLextor Premium Fw 1.05
Program(s) : Alcohol
Profile and/or settings used : SafeDisc profile, read max and write at 10x

Backup just works in my Plextor

kalas

Game : True Crime Streets of LA
Reader :Toshiba SD-M1712 Fw J004
Writer : PLextor Premium Fw 1.05
Program(s) : Disc Dump Fronted v1.4, FireBurner 2.2.1

READING:
Disc Dump Fronted v1.41 using Safedisc method checked,
in Advance Settings FULL INDEX checked, SPEED set to 1x.

WRITING:
FireBurner 2.2.1 in Configuration Device Options Disc-at-Once 96 checked,
writing speed set to 8x

Just working in my Plextor with hide ATIP enabled in Alcohol.

kalas

Game: True Crime Streets of LA
Reader:Toshiba SD-M1712 Fw J004
Writer: PLextor Premium Fw 1.05

I used Virus2k's method read the thread you'll see how it works . just running from my Plextor with hide ATIP enabled in Alcohol

Drakan

Game : Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Reader :Plextor Premium/Asus 5232as
Writer : Plextor Premium/Asus 5232as
Program(s) : Alcohol 120/Blindwrite Both newest release as of this post

READING:
Alcohol 120 using Safedisc 2/3 method,
Blindwrite Automatic

WRITING:
Alcohol 120 Safedisk 2/3 write @ 4x
Blindwrite Automatic

Just working in my Plextor with hide ATIP enabled in Alcohol regardless of the combination off drives used

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Optical Drives
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Sony DRU-510A
Plextor Premium TLA #0000 Firm 1.05
Asus CRW-5232AS
LiteOn LTR-52246S
Yamaha CRW6416SZ
Pioneer DVD-105S
Toshiba CD-ROM XM-6401B

Drakan

Game : Farcry
Reader :Plextor Premium/Asus 5232as
Writer : Plextor Premium/Asus 5232as
Program(s) : Alcohol 120/Blindwrite Both newest release as of this post

READING:
Alcohol 120 using Safedisc 2/3 method,
Blindwrite Automatic

WRITING:
Alcohol 120 Safedisk 2/3 write @ 4x
Blindwrite Automatic

Just working in my Plextor with hide ATIP enabled in Alcohol regardless of the combination off drives used

Parker

You are right Petspeed, the difference between both cd-recorders is minimal; they probably use the same chipset.

In order to know what models can write sd3 these are the requeriments:

-For plex 8/20 any of them of March 99 or after, because previous models can not write in raw mode as said Petspeed.

-For plex 8/2/20 the search is limitated; you will have to find tlas #01xx ONLY!!; the date of manufacturate of those models is irrelevant. Other tlas can write in raw mode but the chipset is simply different and can not write SD 2.x/sd3.x

Good luck

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This is some of my little number of devices to test backups

-Plexwriter 8/20 TLA#0403
-Plexwriter 8/2/20 TLA#0101
-Plexwriter Premium TLA #0000
-Plexwriter 12/10/32S TLA #0103
-ASUS CRW-5224A FW 1.1
-AOPEN CRW-5232 FW 1.05
-Ultraplex 40x
-Ultraplex 32x
-Plex 12/20
-Toshiba sdm-1401 SCSI
-Toshiba sdm-1402 IDE
-Toshiba sdm-1612 IDE
-Plextor DVDR PX-716A TLA #0307
-Liteon ltd165h
-LG GSA-4040b A303
-LG GSA-4082B A204

yankor

Game : Far Cry

Reader : Lite-On SOHC-5232K DVD-Rom/CD-RW Combo

Writer : Lite-On SOHC-5232K DVD-Rom/CD-RW Combo

Program(s) : Newest Alcohol 120%

Profile and/or settings used : SafeDisc profile (not SafeDisc 2/3)

Additional notes : Tested so far only on the Lite-On SOHC-5232K and an IOMagic DVD Burner

Trace

Just 2 say, dont think the Plextor Premium is not good 4 SafeDisc 2/3. Cuz of the test conditions/circumstances members used maybe its not consistantly accurate and remember Premium is the only CD Drive 2 make 1:1 copies or near of SecureRom 4/5 with Blindwrite 5.

I have tested True Crime, and many various Safedisc 2/3 on these CD drives;

Samsung Combo Drive (old) SM-304

Liteon 52X32X52

and NEC DV-5700A DVD-rom

They worked on these Drives and Premium.

Blindwrite 5 is very poor for Safedisc backups.

kalas

Game: True Crime Streets of L.A./ Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Reader: LiteOn JLMS XJ-HD166S Fw DS1A
Writer: PlexWriter PX-R820Ti Fw 1.08 TLA # 0503
Program(s): Alcohol 120%
Profiles and/or Settings used: Reading and writing at 4x using SafeDisc profile

Works on all my drives thanks Parker for this tip I couldn't believe it

NumberOne

Hi. I´m new here but i can help.

Game: True Crime Streets of LA
Alcohol 120%: 1.9.2 build 1705
DVD-RW: NEC DVD-RW ND 2510A 8x

------REcording-------
Memorex 48x cd-r: fails: just say insert the CD-ROM

->RW
Verbatim hi-speed 10x
Memorex 10x

When I record cd-r just says insert cd but when i record RW just keeps a second reading and then does nothing, although i click play again and again

kalas

Game: NHL Eastside Hockey Manager/ Spiderman 2
Reader: PlexWriter W124TSi Fw 1.07
Writer: PlexWriter PX-R820Ti Fw 1.08 TLA # 0503
Program(s): Alcohol 120%
Profiles and/or Settings used: Reading and writing at 4x using SafeDisc profile

Works in all my drives

jporiseva

I've tried to make backup from this same game (NHL...) but no real success.

Do you have any ideas what I could try to do next?

Game: NHL Eastside Hockey Manager
Reader: PlexWriter PX-W8432T Fw 1.09
Writer: PlexWriter PX-W8432T Fw 1.09
Program(s): Alcohol 120%
Profiles and/or Settings used: Reading and writing at 4x using SafeDisc profile

cd-r disc no work.
cd-rw disc works but only in PX-W8432T.

My other drive is Pioneer DVD-106S