Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots - Club CDFreaks

*merther02* · 29-04-2004

Hi,
Wondering if anyone knew what protection this game has, its not out in the UK yet, but in the US it is.

Thanks

*merther02* · 01-05-2004

This uses smarte, or aray reported it as smarte. So why the 00001.tmp and 00002.tmp, does smarte work smilar to safedisc or is aray reporting incorrectly?

*merther02* · 01-05-2004

Ok,
So is the protection 'Smarte' actually smart or not?
Can it be copied?

wakemonkeypimp · 01-05-2004

easy there dr evil ...yes it uses uncorrectable errors but no weak sectors

wyhpower · 02-05-2004

i think use safedisk 2/3 profile will be ok

*merther02* · 02-05-2004

I had a look on alcohol 120% it didnt have a profile for it. What program shall i use or what boxses shall i tick?

thanks

*hburrows83* · 02-05-2004

If you ahve a 2 sheep burner then use the safedisc profile, toherwise use the safedisc 2/3 one

*merther02* · 02-05-2004

LG GCC 4480b, is that a sheep two burner?
Ive got a pretty good feeling it is.

gdecat · 06-05-2004

When clonyXXL didn't find a protection, I just went ahead aburned it without a profile. I installed from the burned copy and had no problems playing the game.

I used an LTR-52327S.

**xtacydima** · 07-05-2004

I would try the default game profile first in CCD.

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 07-05-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by gdecat
When clonyXXL didn't find a protection, I just went ahead aburned it without a profile. I installed from the burned copy and had no problems playing the game.

I used an LTR-52327S.

ClonyXXL has not been updated in quite a while, so it might not detect some things. Also a good tip for anyone is that some scanners seem to miss protection and some scanners pick it up. ALWAYS scan with at least 2 different scanners.

For a good scanner, get A-Ray Scanner.

Good Luck!

*merther02* · 08-05-2004

Ive made a copy, its dead easy!
Smarte?More like SafeDisc 0.1!

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 06-06-2004

I got it today. I nearly fell of my chair. It bases it's whole protection on 9 bad sectors. 9. Or that's what it is on Thrones and Patriots. You don't even need to have a 2 sheep burner.

*KitnaIsntHappy* · 06-06-2004

AFAIK the protection is designed to allow a faulty copy to play but "freeze" the program at some point.

Cheers

*merther02* · 06-06-2004

Hmm...

Your sources?

bee · 07-06-2004

Check www.smartesolutions.com
What KitnaIsntHappy said, is mentioned there somewhere (i've read this too a while ago), but i can't immediately find where exactly

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 07-06-2004

Only if you haven't burnt the bad sectors properly. I have finished the game and all of it's shinanigans

. Not once did it freeze.

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 07-06-2004

Microsoft Selects Smarte Solutions
"Microsoft believes that protecting the integrity of its intellectual property is not only key to protecting its revenues, but also key to protecting the relationship Microsoft has with its valued customers. The interoperability of SmarteSECURE and SmarteMASTER brings a fresh, efficient, and flexible approach to the business issues surrounding the production of protected software products. I am excited about the opportunities to lower implementation costs and reduce the possibility of error during the release process."

"On behalf of Microsoft Game Studios, I wish to welcome Smarte as an official partner of our group. We look forward to a successful relationship."

Oh well, better luck next time Micro$oft

*KitnaIsntHappy* · 07-06-2004

I read it on cdmediaworld.
Also merther02 00001.tmp and 00002.tmp are not SafeDisc files. SafeDisc uses 00000001.tmp and 00000002.tmp

Cheers

*merther02* · 07-06-2004

Yeah at a first glance it fooled me.

*KitnaIsntHappy* · 07-06-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by merther02

Yeah at a first glance it fooled me.

Me too

29-04-2004	#1 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hi, Wondering if anyone knew what protection this game has, its not out in the UK yet, but in the US it is. Thanks __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

01-05-2004	#2 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	This uses smarte, or aray reported it as smarte. So why the 00001.tmp and 00002.tmp, does smarte work smilar to safedisc or is aray reporting incorrectly? __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

01-05-2004	#3 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Ok, So is the protection 'Smarte' actually smart or not? Can it be copied? __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

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02-05-2004	#6 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	I had a look on alcohol 120% it didnt have a profile for it. What program shall i use or what boxses shall i tick? thanks __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

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02-05-2004	#5 (permalink)
wyhpower CD Freaks Protection Detective Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 86	i think use safedisk 2/3 profile will be ok

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merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	LG GCC 4480b, is that a sheep two burner? Ive got a pretty good feeling it is. __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

06-05-2004	#9 (permalink)
gdecat New on Forum Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1	When clonyXXL didn't find a protection, I just went ahead aburned it without a profile. I installed from the burned copy and had no problems playing the game. I used an LTR-52327S.

07-05-2004	#10 (permalink)
xtacydima Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,850	I would try the default game profile first in CCD. __________________ My Rig: Antec P160 P4 3.0E GHz running WinXP w/SP2 Scythe SCMN-1000 Heatsink w/Arctic Silver 5 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 (550W power supply) ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Motherboard 2GB RAM - Corsair XMS TWINX2048 (2x1GB) 3200C2Pro CL2.0 ATI RADEON X850XT AGP 2 - WD 37GB Raptor's (in RAID 0) via onboard Promise controller Western Digital 250GB SATA HDD on Primary SATA channel Western Digital 150GB SATA HDD on Secondary SATA channel Lite-On LTR-52246S 6S0F (IDE1 Master) Lite-On JLMS XJ-HD166S DS1C (IDE1 Slave) *NEC 3500AG 2.TC Quiet* (IDE2 Master) Lite-On SOHW 1673S JS07 (via USB 2.0 to IDE & set to Master)** Found a Solution here helpful? Like the forum's? Well then, what are you waiting for JOIN NOW!!!

08-05-2004	#12 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Ive made a copy, its dead easy! Smarte?More like SafeDisc 0.1! __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

06-06-2004	#13 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots I got it today. I nearly fell of my chair. It bases it's whole protection on 9 bad sectors. 9. Or that's what it is on Thrones and Patriots. You don't even need to have a 2 sheep burner. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

06-06-2004	#14 (permalink)
KitnaIsntHappy CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Monsterland Posts: 506	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots AFAIK the protection is designed to allow a faulty copy to play but "freeze" the program at some point. Cheers __________________ www.aray-software.com Having trouble making a backup? Try $CyBeRwIz$'s Offline Help

06-06-2004	#15 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots Hmm... Your sources? __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

07-06-2004	#16 (permalink)
bee New on Forum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots Check www.smartesolutions.com What KitnaIsntHappy said, is mentioned there somewhere (i've read this too a while ago), but i can't immediately find where exactly

07-06-2004	#17 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots Only if you haven't burnt the bad sectors properly. I have finished the game and all of it's shinanigans. Not once did it freeze. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

07-06-2004	#18 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots Microsoft Selects Smarte Solutions "Microsoft believes that protecting the integrity of its intellectual property is not only key to protecting its revenues, but also key to protecting the relationship Microsoft has with its valued customers. The interoperability of SmarteSECURE and SmarteMASTER brings a fresh, efficient, and flexible approach to the business issues surrounding the production of protected software products. I am excited about the opportunities to lower implementation costs and reduce the possibility of error during the release process." "On behalf of Microsoft Game Studios, I wish to welcome Smarte as an official partner of our group. We look forward to a successful relationship." Oh well, better luck next time Micro$oft __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

07-06-2004	#19 (permalink)
KitnaIsntHappy CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Monsterland Posts: 506	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots I read it on cdmediaworld. Also merther02 00001.tmp and 00002.tmp are not SafeDisc files. SafeDisc uses 00000001.tmp and 00000002.tmp Cheers __________________ www.aray-software.com Having trouble making a backup? Try $CyBeRwIz$'s Offline Help

07-06-2004	#20 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Re: Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots Yeah at a first glance it fooled me. __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

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