below are the drives ive tested that will play backups of safedisk 2.9+ titles without emulation (ie autoplay, etc.). note: all cdrw drives need hide atip to work no matter how good the copy.

I used the Asus 5224A to burn.


drives that playback ok
EPO RW-5252 CDRW
Samsung SW-252BRNSF CDRW
Memorex 32023257 CDRW
MediaStor CW-524 CDRW
Maddog MD-52XCDR CDRW
Plextor Premium CDRW
Plextor 708A DVDRW
Liteon 52246s CDRW
Liteon 52327s CDRW
Liteon LTC-48161H DVD/CDRW
Sony DRU-500A DVDRW
Asus 5224A CDRW
Teac UE-5200B External CDRW (rebaged asus 52x)

drives that need emulation to play
Creative CD5220-F cdr
Goldstar GCC-420N dvd/cdrw (dell laptop drive)

drives that will not play all sd 2.9 titles (some work)
Toshiba SD-M1402


I will add more when i test them or remember all that ive tested..also if you want to please post below on drives you could get to work or couldnt.

if you own one of these drives and cant get it to work without emulation then your copy isnt good enough. i suggest using asus or newer liteon drives to backup sd2.9

edit: ive moved the non working drives to the working ones since i have the new version of CloneCD I can now play all sd titles on all of my drives with just hide cdr enabled.

after learning that the clonecd backups use emulation i have moved the two drives back to the will not play list

I wish to add to drives that playback ok:

Liteon 16102B


I have succedeed to do a copy of Generals Zero Hour that runs like an original, without the need to hide atip to work.
Bye

You can add the following to drives that handle playback without difficulty:

Lite-on Ltd-163 DVD
Lite-on Ltr-24102B CDRW
Lite-on Ltd-163D DVD

Drives that can:

Plextor 2410A
Toshiba SD-R5002

Drives that can't:

Toshiba SD-R1402

Good luck!

Oops, but my Toshi SD-M 1402 has no problem reading any copy made with ASUS 5224A.

Drives that can:

Toshiba SD-M1712

Please add to the list that work fine without any emulation:
(copies burnt with Liteon 52327S or ASUS 52x)

Liteon XJ-HD 166s DVD-Rom
Sony DDU 1621 DVD-Rom
Pioneer DVD-121 DVD-Rom
Pioneer DVR-106D DVD Burner (with hide ATIP)
Liteon LDW 411S DVD Burner (with hide ATIP)
LG GDR-8162B DVD Rom
LG GDR-8161B DVD Rom

Oh finally someone who confirms my result that 1:1 Copys of SafeDisc 2.9 and 3.1 protected games won't work in all drives.

I have some more drives to list:

not working:
PIONEER DVR-105

working:
TOSHIBA SD-M1612

Lite-On LTR40125S

Works with emulation for 2.9 safedisc

Does not work at all with 3.1 safedisc

I must qualify my own statement:

These drives all work well with SD 2.9 copies.

The 2 LG DVD Rom drives do not work with SD 3.15 copies.

Jackass, despite me having worse manners than your 10 old, I reckon (although, one should only reckon with numbers) you deserve a custom user title, if you can put a sticky together; tease out all the main points and stuff on SD2.9 +, ASUS, LITEONs and the main apps. Highlight the ATIP hiding feature pitfalls and emu issues.

It'll keep us on top of emerging problems, tips and traps, and, you'll be a guru.

working:

Liteon 48125W CDR/RW (with hide atip)
Liteon LTD 165H DVD rom
Pioneer A06S/2 DVD rom

all working with both SD 2.9 and 3.10

working:
Toshiba SD-M1802 DVD ROM

I guess you had atip or some blacklist problem @ the time

Sd 2.9 3.1 3.15 shud be fine in dvr-105 and dvr-106
they have np burning it either

Anyone know of internal notebook (slim-type) CD or
DVD drives that will run backup discs of Safedisc 2.8?

I've tried Lite-on, Sony, Toshiba, Asus slim drives,
and none will recognize backup discs of Safedisc 2.8.

I know the back-ups are well-made because the
discs on different desktop drives (lite-on, plextor, etc).

All the drives listed in this thread are for desktops...

-Matt