DVD Backups Tracked? - Club CDFreaks

uronmy49311 · 16-05-2007

I was reading my copy of PC Magazine the other day, and read something that gave me quite a jolt.. it talked about how Blue Ray & HD DVDs (and possibly soon Reg. dvds) will soon have the ability to tell if they have been "backed up". Is this actually possible? should people be worried about this anytime soon since its apparently illegal to make backups of movies you actually own?? just wondered what you guys thought.. thanks

kg_evilboy · 16-05-2007

DVD-ROMs will not be able to tell if they have been backed up because they're, erm, totally ROM.

As to BD and HD-DVD, I don't know. The new copy protections are pretty awkward.

It may be that it also meant that the DVD-R specification (not DVD+R) requires the burner's model name to be written into the lead-in. Most burner models such as Pioneer, LG, BenQ and Plextor also write their serial number into the lead-in, making your backups on DVD-R trackable. LiteOn, who apparently care about your privacy, don't do that.

*steven2874* · 16-05-2007

Just curious, kg evilboy, can one get access to this serial number written in the lead-in with consumer software or does this require some specialized program? First I've heard that my drive's serial number is written to every burned disc

kg_evilboy · 16-05-2007

Software such as Nero and ImgBurn can read the serial number off the lead-in.

*coolcolors* · 16-05-2007

It may be that it also meant that the DVD-R specification (not DVD+R) requires the burner's model name to be written into the lead-in. Most burner models such as Pioneer, LG, BenQ and Plextor also write their serial number into the lead-in, making your backups on DVD-R trackable. LiteOn, who apparently care about your privacy, don't do that.

That interesting I didn't realize that LiteOn didnt write yoru serial number onto the media. Would that constitute invasion of privacy by the manufacture posting your information other for people to find? Where do I go looking on the net to find that information about drives putting your drive serial number on the media?? I like to read and research more about this cause this is something most users and manufacture don't mention or talk about. If that is true this information should be in a separate posting to inform users of their drives posting information on media that it shouldn't be doing. I always thought of thinking to buy one of those other drives but if what your saying is in fact a "Fact" then they the manufacture is doing us buyers a disservice for the product we purchase from them.

*coolcolors* · 18-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_evilboy

DVD-ROMs will not be able to tell if they have been backed up because they're, erm, totally ROM.

As to BD and HD-DVD, I don't know. The new copy protections are pretty awkward.

It may be that it also meant that the DVD-R specification (not DVD+R) requires the burner's model name to be written into the lead-in. Most burner models such as Pioneer, LG, BenQ and Plextor also write their serial number into the lead-in, making your backups on DVD-R trackable. LiteOn, who apparently care about your privacy, don't do that.

Ok since you peaked my interest in drive giving out people serial number on the dvd what site or where did you find that information referring to drives putting peoples S/N onto media?

kg_evilboy · 18-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcolors

It may be that it also meant that the DVD-R specification (not DVD+R) requires the burner's model name to be written into the lead-in. Most burner models such as Pioneer, LG, BenQ and Plextor also write their serial number into the lead-in, making your backups on DVD-R trackable. LiteOn, who apparently care about your privacy, don't do that.

That interesting I didn't realize that LiteOn didnt write yoru serial number onto the media. Would that constitute invasion of privacy by the manufacture posting your information other for people to find? Where do I go looking on the net to find that information about drives putting your drive serial number on the media?? I like to read and research more about this cause this is something most users and manufacture don't mention or talk about. If that is true this information should be in a separate posting to inform users of their drives posting information on media that it shouldn't be doing. I always thought of thinking to buy one of those other drives but if what your saying is in fact a "Fact" then they the manufacture is doing us buyers a disservice for the product we purchase from them.

I have tried this myself.

Just burn a few DVD-R with LG and LiteOn (or Pioneer, BenQ, ...), and look at these with software that will read out the full burner name from the Recording Management Area Data.

It seems that most of the RMA is not being used though...

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kg_evilboy CD Freaks Boy Toy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,318	Re: DVD Backups Tracked? DVD-ROMs will not be able to tell if they have been backed up because they're, erm, totally ROM. As to BD and HD-DVD, I don't know. The new copy protections are pretty awkward. It may be that it also meant that the DVD-R specification (not DVD+R) requires the burner's model name to be written into the lead-in. Most burner models such as Pioneer, LG, BenQ and Plextor also write their serial number into the lead-in, making your backups on DVD-R trackable. LiteOn, who apparently care about your privacy, don't do that. __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

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steven2874 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,039	Re: DVD Backups Tracked? Just curious, kg evilboy, can one get access to this serial number written in the lead-in with consumer software or does this require some specialized program? First I've heard that my drive's serial number is written to every burned disc

16-05-2007	#4 (permalink)
kg_evilboy CD Freaks Boy Toy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,318	Re: DVD Backups Tracked? Software such as Nero and ImgBurn can read the serial number off the lead-in. __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

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coolcolors CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,014	Re: DVD Backups Tracked? It may be that it also meant that the DVD-R specification (not DVD+R) requires the burner's model name to be written into the lead-in. Most burner models such as Pioneer, LG, BenQ and Plextor also write their serial number into the lead-in, making your backups on DVD-R trackable. LiteOn, who apparently care about your privacy, don't do that. That interesting I didn't realize that LiteOn didnt write yoru serial number onto the media. Would that constitute invasion of privacy by the manufacture posting your information other for people to find? Where do I go looking on the net to find that information about drives putting your drive serial number on the media?? I like to read and research more about this cause this is something most users and manufacture don't mention or talk about. If that is true this information should be in a separate posting to inform users of their drives posting information on media that it shouldn't be doing. I always thought of thinking to buy one of those other drives but if what your saying is in fact a "Fact" then they the manufacture is doing us buyers a disservice for the product we purchase from them.

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