C&C Generals & Zero Hour - Club CDFreaks

iampedro · 22-10-2003

Could someone please help me out.... I have both legal copies of these cd's and I want to make backups how can I do it with out having to have anysoftware installed on the computer to emulate SafeDisk 2.9 or 2.8?

*Jamos* · 22-10-2003

if your running the backup from you asus drive youll need to use autoplay which comes with blindwrite to hide the atip. just use alchoholor and blindwrite 4.57 and you should be ok. Im not sure on your drive if its sd2.9 capable though.

**FutureProof** · 23-10-2003

ASUS 32x is the only non-SafeDisc 2 killer

iampedro · 23-10-2003

Really... Any suggestions to the best and the latest drives to get?

What about the Samsung SM352?

*Jamos* · 23-10-2003

look at my post on this forum i ordered the asus 52x..its a good sd killer..

**philamber** · 23-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by iampedro
What about the Samsung SM352?

Definitely not if you want to use it to make sd 2.51+ copies. Samsung burners are not accurate efm writers (i.e. they're all 0 sheep models).

iampedro · 23-10-2003

What about Plextor 52x32x52 PlexWriter™ Premium?

**FutureProof** · 23-10-2003

Option 1: ASUS 52x and a LITEON DVD-ROM
Option 2: Plextor Premium and Toshiba DVD-ROM
Option 3: LITEON burner & DVD-ROM

How's that?

**philamber** · 23-10-2003

> Option 2: Plextor Premium and Toshiba DVD-ROM

Not recommended if you live downunder (unless you really feel like paying off the national debt that is

).

Either of FP's options 1 or 3 will cost you about $105au all up in Oz. Personally, I'd go with option 1.

iampedro · 23-10-2003

I will work on those options..

Jay Sea · 23-10-2003

@futureproof

Lite-On burner and DVD (option 3) does this mean that a 48161H can do the job?
As the other models from Lite-on don't

(I'm gonna buy this 48161H today, just bought the 52327S yesterday )

*Jamos* · 23-10-2003

i have the 48161H and the 52327s they both burn about the same quality for me...i still cant get a good enough copy of sd2.9 to work on my toshi cdrw or creative cdr drive with just ignoring the atip..though like i said my toshi cdrw and creative cdr drive are real picky..using bw and autoplay they work fine on those drives.

now my asus 52x should be here tommorow ill post when i get it on results..i may need to start using diskdump/fireburner combo to get a better copy.

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

I'n not gonna waste my money on burners, because I know they will not do the job.
I just bought my latest 2 drives and I only got more coasters

*Jamos* · 24-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Sea
I'n not gonna waste my money on burners, because I know they will not do the job.
I just bought my latest 2 drives and I only got more coasters

i can get them to work with autoplay on all my drives with the 4816H and my 52327s. also i can get them to work on certain drives with doing a direct copy using diskdump/fireburner with alc 120 loaded ignoring the atip. Id just use autoplay if i were you and not worry about the burner..like the guy at VSO said its gonna be real hard for these 35$ burners to burn exact patterns that the manufacturers 35,000$ burners produce so thats why im prolly going to just go the easy route and use bw5.

those drives will successfully read the sd2.9 images so you can mount them and play them on a virtual drive also..its the only way to play a game!

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

The trouble is that even with autoplay the discs don't work. The only disc that works is the orignal and even this disc does not work in every drive.

*Jamos* · 24-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Sea
The trouble is that even with autoplay the discs don't work. The only disc that works is the orignal and even this disc does not work in every drive.

sounds like a crappy disk too bad you cant return cds anymore..its really a ripoff the way software developers can get away with selling a non returnable product!..i got this expansion last night ill try it out see what i get.

iampedro · 24-10-2003

So, no one has sucessfully made a copy with a CDRW?

Would a michine like this work?
Zerus 52x CD Duplicator

*Jamos* · 24-10-2003

I doubt it..it still depends on the writer..if thier writer cant reproduce exactly the patterns of the original then youll get a 279$ coaster maker.

though ive never used those devices..

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

Yes, and even if the backp works, why do you need a duplicator. It sounds illegal what you're gonna do with this thing. It's normal when you make lots of backups with this machine. That really is illegal.

iampedro · 24-10-2003

I would just want it not to loose my cd's... I know that price is not worth it b/c I can get the game for 25 dollars but that isn't the point .. I am just trying to make a legal copy to back up for me... B/c some how it seems like the game cd's that I have seem to be scratched at times over a period of time..

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

It is legal to make a backup buth software companies intend to make that impossible.

iampedro · 24-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Sea
It is legal to make a backup buth software companies intend to make that impossible.

I will just wait till... I can get the : Plextor 52x32x52 PlexWriter™ Premium E-IDE

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

Oke, do that and fill me in on the backup if it works. I doubt it.

iampedro · 24-10-2003

It might be awile but if I do get it then I will update you guys on it after all... I am still just a poor collage student..

*Jamos* · 24-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Sea
Oke, do that and fill me in on the backup if it works. I doubt it.

I have the plex premium its not the best sd2.9 writer..im getting the asus 52x one on monday ill try it on this title.

but for securerom theres no better than the premium.

22-10-2003	#1 (permalink)
iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	C&C Generals & Zero Hour <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Could someone please help me out.... I have both legal copies of these cd's and I want to make backups how can I do it with out having to have anysoftware installed on the computer to emulate SafeDisk 2.9 or 2.8? __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

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FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	ASUS 32x is the only non-SafeDisc 2 killer __________________ :ÐowN AsS ± ßû(r)NêR: Try our Search function > Words on Netiquette 24, 32, 40 & 52X Liteons, 16, 40, 48 & 52X ASUS', Ricoh MP7163A, Acer 1610A CD writers; Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitachi GD-7500 & Liteon LTD-163D DVD-ROMs; Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD-ROM/CD writer combo; NEC CloneDrive; Matshita DVD RAM/-R/-RW UJ-810 PEBKAC: Click here when asked AXDA3000DKV4D Atlhon 3000+ Model 10 Barton; Twin, Dual-Channeled Corsair CMX512-2700C2 @ 2-3-3-6-T1; GA-7N400 Pro F12; crappy vid card; Twin (base) WD2500JD drives There are two secrets to success: 1) Don't tell everyone everything There are 10 types of people who understand binary: those who do and those who don't Who Are YOU?

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iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	Really... Any suggestions to the best and the latest drives to get? What about the Samsung SM352? __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

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iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	What about Plextor 52x32x52 PlexWriter™ Premium? __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

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FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	Option 1: ASUS 52x and a LITEON DVD-ROM Option 2: Plextor Premium and Toshiba DVD-ROM Option 3: LITEON burner & DVD-ROM How's that? __________________ :ÐowN AsS ± ßû(r)NêR: Try our Search function > Words on Netiquette 24, 32, 40 & 52X Liteons, 16, 40, 48 & 52X ASUS', Ricoh MP7163A, Acer 1610A CD writers; Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitachi GD-7500 & Liteon LTD-163D DVD-ROMs; Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD-ROM/CD writer combo; NEC CloneDrive; Matshita DVD RAM/-R/-RW UJ-810 PEBKAC: Click here when asked AXDA3000DKV4D Atlhon 3000+ Model 10 Barton; Twin, Dual-Channeled Corsair CMX512-2700C2 @ 2-3-3-6-T1; GA-7N400 Pro F12; crappy vid card; Twin (base) WD2500JD drives There are two secrets to success: 1) Don't tell everyone everything There are 10 types of people who understand binary: those who do and those who don't Who Are YOU?

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22-10-2003	#2 (permalink)
Jamos CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: on your computer Posts: 3,619	if your running the backup from you asus drive youll need to use autoplay which comes with blindwrite to hide the atip. just use alchoholor and blindwrite 4.57 and you should be ok. Im not sure on your drive if its sd2.9 capable though.

23-10-2003	#5 (permalink)
Jamos CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: on your computer Posts: 3,619	look at my post on this forum i ordered the asus 52x..its a good sd killer..

23-10-2003	#9 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,722	> Option 2: Plextor Premium and Toshiba DVD-ROM Not recommended if you live downunder (unless you really feel like paying off the national debt that is ). Either of FP's options 1 or 3 will cost you about $105au all up in Oz. Personally, I'd go with option 1. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

23-10-2003	#10 (permalink)
iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	I will work on those options.. __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

23-10-2003	#11 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	@futureproof Lite-On burner and DVD (option 3) does this mean that a 48161H can do the job? As the other models from Lite-on don't (I'm gonna buy this 48161H today, just bought the 52327S yesterday ) __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

23-10-2003	#12 (permalink)
Jamos CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: on your computer Posts: 3,619	i have the 48161H and the 52327s they both burn about the same quality for me...i still cant get a good enough copy of sd2.9 to work on my toshi cdrw or creative cdr drive with just ignoring the atip..though like i said my toshi cdrw and creative cdr drive are real picky..using bw and autoplay they work fine on those drives. now my asus 52x should be here tommorow ill post when i get it on results..i may need to start using diskdump/fireburner combo to get a better copy.

24-10-2003	#13 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	I'n not gonna waste my money on burners, because I know they will not do the job. I just bought my latest 2 drives and I only got more coasters __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#15 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	The trouble is that even with autoplay the discs don't work. The only disc that works is the orignal and even this disc does not work in every drive. __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#17 (permalink)
iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	So, no one has sucessfully made a copy with a CDRW? Would a michine like this work? Zerus 52x CD Duplicator __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

24-10-2003	#18 (permalink)
Jamos CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: on your computer Posts: 3,619	I doubt it..it still depends on the writer..if thier writer cant reproduce exactly the patterns of the original then youll get a 279$ coaster maker. though ive never used those devices..

24-10-2003	#19 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	Yes, and even if the backp works, why do you need a duplicator. It sounds illegal what you're gonna do with this thing. It's normal when you make lots of backups with this machine. That really is illegal. __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#20 (permalink)
iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	I would just want it not to loose my cd's... I know that price is not worth it b/c I can get the game for 25 dollars but that isn't the point .. I am just trying to make a legal copy to back up for me... B/c some how it seems like the game cd's that I have seem to be scratched at times over a period of time.. __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

24-10-2003	#21 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	It is legal to make a backup buth software companies intend to make that impossible. __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#23 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	Oke, do that and fill me in on the backup if it works. I doubt it. __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#24 (permalink)
iampedro New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 27	It might be awile but if I do get it then I will update you guys on it after all... I am still just a poor collage student.. __________________ LiteOn 16X DVD (166j) LiteOn 8x DVD-+RW (811) BlindWrite - To the Max

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