Blindwrite image works from one location but not another - Club CDFreaks

Sinch · 11-06-2004

I have created an image using blindwrite of "Toca Racing Driver 2" or "V8 Supercars 2" as its known here in Australia. The image was written to a laptop that is networked to my desktop. When i mount this image with daemon tools from the laptop (through the network) it works fine, however if i copy the image files over to my desktop system and mount them it doesn't. Well it does actually mount correctly however when i run the game i get a disc identification error. I can't think why it would work from one location and not another, unless there is some info about the original location stored in the .B5T file. Does anyone have any idea's. This game has been a bit of prick as it uses starforce3.

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 11-06-2004

If you do a search you will find that there is a bug in Starforce 3 that allows it to be run over a network, but not on just one computer.

Sinch · 11-06-2004

Is there anyway around this or do starforce3 images always have to be mounted through a network?

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 11-06-2004

At present, there is onyl 2 known ways to mount a StarForce 3 protected image :

1) Disconnect ALL physical IDE Optical Devices (Drives) From your computer and run it, but I think that has been killed in the newer versions.

2) Do it over a network.

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 11-06-2004

You can read up about it here.

Sinch · 11-06-2004

i have disconnected my ide dvd drive and can still only get the game to work when the image is mounted through the network.

Actually reading the link from above it seems this actually the only way to get the game to run. What a pain in the ass

thatks for your help $CyBeRwIz$

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 11-06-2004

I know, it is a pain in the A$$, but I hear the BlindWrite team are working on a solution

No problem.

docdocdoc9 · 11-06-2004

Does anyone knows why the image works when mounted over a network ?

I was thinking it was because of the "lag" the network introduces : hard drives seeks are extremely fast, so when an app sends a read command to the virtual drive, it gets an answer almost immediately, and SF (and maybe Securom 5 ?) probably uses this in its newer versions to detect virtual drives. When the image is mounted over a network, it takes more time, so the virtual CD behaves more like a normal CD and SF is fooled.

Drakan · 11-06-2004

Not a bad explanation, sounds good too me! I just hope that it gets solved soon by the bw team though!

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 12-06-2004

Yes, that is a quite logical explanation. Another is that with the disconnect IDE Drives trick, maybe that because it is running from a different loacation, the check is not built in to check those other places.

*merther02* · 12-06-2004

I slight disagree, because sometimes cd authentication stops if the cd takes to long to authenticate.

Slam me if im wrong...

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 13-06-2004

It does, sometimes, but if it can't authenticate, the game usually won't run.

docdocdoc9 · 13-06-2004

Anyway, i just tested this method on Securom 5.xx with the games Chrome (1.3 patch) and Deus Ex 2 (1.2 patch) using Alcohol's virtual drive : it just works !!! When mounted locally, i get the "emulation software detected visit securom.com/emulation blah blah" message, but when mounted over a network, it authenticates after about 10 sec.

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Sinch New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	Blindwrite image works from one location but not another <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I have created an image using blindwrite of "Toca Racing Driver 2" or "V8 Supercars 2" as its known here in Australia. The image was written to a laptop that is networked to my desktop. When i mount this image with daemon tools from the laptop (through the network) it works fine, however if i copy the image files over to my desktop system and mount them it doesn't. Well it does actually mount correctly however when i run the game i get a disc identification error. I can't think why it would work from one location and not another, unless there is some info about the original location stored in the .B5T file. Does anyone have any idea's. This game has been a bit of prick as it uses starforce3.

11-06-2004	#2 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another If you do a search you will find that there is a bug in Starforce 3 that allows it to be run over a network, but not on just one computer. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

11-06-2004	#3 (permalink)
Sinch New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another Is there anyway around this or do starforce3 images always have to be mounted through a network?

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$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another At present, there is onyl 2 known ways to mount a StarForce 3 protected image : 1) Disconnect ALL physical IDE Optical Devices (Drives) From your computer and run it, but I think that has been killed in the newer versions. 2) Do it over a network. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

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$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another You can read up about it here. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

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11-06-2004	#6 (permalink)
Sinch New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another i have disconnected my ide dvd drive and can still only get the game to work when the image is mounted through the network. Actually reading the link from above it seems this actually the only way to get the game to run. What a pain in the ass thatks for your help $CyBeRwIz$

11-06-2004	#7 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another I know, it is a pain in the A$$, but I hear the BlindWrite team are working on a solution No problem. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

11-06-2004	#8 (permalink)
docdocdoc9 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: France Posts: 242	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another Does anyone knows why the image works when mounted over a network ? I was thinking it was because of the "lag" the network introduces : hard drives seeks are extremely fast, so when an app sends a read command to the virtual drive, it gets an answer almost immediately, and SF (and maybe Securom 5 ?) probably uses this in its newer versions to detect virtual drives. When the image is mounted over a network, it takes more time, so the virtual CD behaves more like a normal CD and SF is fooled.

11-06-2004	#9 (permalink)
Drakan CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 54	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another Not a bad explanation, sounds good too me! I just hope that it gets solved soon by the bw team though!

12-06-2004	#10 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another Yes, that is a quite logical explanation. Another is that with the disconnect IDE Drives trick, maybe that because it is running from a different loacation, the check is not built in to check those other places. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

12-06-2004	#11 (permalink)
merther02 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another I slight disagree, because sometimes cd authentication stops if the cd takes to long to authenticate. Slam me if im wrong... __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

13-06-2004	#12 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another It does, sometimes, but if it can't authenticate, the game usually won't run. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

13-06-2004	#13 (permalink)
docdocdoc9 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: France Posts: 242	Re: Blindwrite image works from one location but not another Anyway, i just tested this method on Securom 5.xx with the games Chrome (1.3 patch) and Deus Ex 2 (1.2 patch) using Alcohol's virtual drive : it just works !!! When mounted locally, i get the "emulation software detected visit securom.com/emulation blah blah" message, but when mounted over a network, it authenticates after about 10 sec.

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